God of War CRT: More Updates

[Planck69]

Introduction​

This won't be as huge as the other one. It's mostly adjustments and additions missed over the past few changes.

Additions/Changes​

Kratos​

• Currently, Kratos's resistance to Garm being able to erase runes and chew through reality is presented as; "Void Manipulation (ResistsErinys' powers. His Norse self His Norse self is able to resist bites and claw swipes from Garm, who can make Realm Tears with his raw strength and can chew through the fabric of the realms, even surviving being chewed on by the latter)" I plan on reformatting it and adding the following;
  • Existence Erasure (Information, Space-Time, Conceptual; Can withstand being chewed on by Garm, who can eat through the fabric of reality and even ate the word for the feeling one gets when they get so hungry that they stop feeling hungry, with all words being runes that underpin reality as well as being magic itself) (Ragnarok Kratos)
• All of Athena's abilities (Had used the Blade of Olympus to drain Athena of her godly powers when he stabbed her) (God Kratos)
• Move Kratos’s “Enhanced Supernatural Willpower” to his Demigod key, as all of his feats pertaining to them occur before he regains the Blade of Olympus.
• Sealing and Summoning Negation (Athena in her ascended state, had to coax him into willingly giving her Hope. Even when he released it from his body, she could no longer gather and seal Hope again after Kratos had given it to humanity, despite being capable of forcibly summoning and sealing Hope beforehand)

Others​

• Odin should have his resistance to Kratos's weapons noted.
  • Blades of Chaos (Could withstand being attacked and immolated by the Blades of Chaos without any lasting injuries)
  • Leviathan Axe (Could withstand blows from the Leviathan Axe with no issue)
• The Blades of Chaos should be noted to have Infinite Heat as they hold Primordial Fire within them, which was recently accepted as having that level of heat.

Removals​

• "Sealing Negation (Can absorb and sacrifice enemy souls to nullify seals)" This seems more like a function of the seal itself. (God Kratos key)
• "Possibly Sealing (Completely rendered Ascended Athena helpless and unable to take Hope from him by force, despite the latter being capable of forcibly summoning and sealing Hope beforehand)" The above sealing/summoning negation works better for this. (Power of Hope key)

Agree: 10 (Elizhaa, Reiner04, UchihaSlayer96, Random-Helper323, KLOL506, Felipe_Walker16, Fixxed (Limited seal negation), Apex_Predator_GX, Pepsimanlover, Eseseso)

Disagree:

Neutral:

 

[KLOL506]

Yeah, this is fine.

Don't worry, I won't tag everyone and their mother this time LOL.

 

[Planck69]

@KingTempest @UchihaSlayer96 @Random-Helper323 @Theglassman12 @LephyrTheRevanchist @Dereck03 @Emirp sumitpo @Elizhaa @Reiner04

Any input would be appreciated.

 

[Fixxed]

Currently, Kratos's resistance to Garm being able to erase runes and chew through reality is presented as; "Void Manipulation (ResistsErinys' powers. His Norse self His Norse self is able to resist bites and claw swipes from Garm, who can make Realm Tears with his raw strength and can chew through the fabric of the realms, even surviving being chewed on by the latter)" I plan on reformatting it and adding the following;

• Existence Erasure (Information, Space-Time, Conceptual; Can withstand being chewed on by Garm, who can eat through the fabric of reality and even ate the word for the feeling one gets when they get so hungry that they stop feeling hungry, with all words being runes that underpin reality as well as being magic itself) (Ragnarok Kratos)

Isnt EE is a kind of void manip?
But yeah i agree with this, it not like kratos withstand the void it self, but he withstand garm's power

Odin should have his resistance to Kratos's weapons noted.

• Blades of Chaos (Could withstand being attacked and immolated by the Blades of Chaos without any lasting injuries)
• Leviathan Axe (Could withstand blows from the Leviathan Axe with no issue)

Why this is a resistance?
And arent you should give some scan about "withstand" here?

The Blades of Chaos should be noted to have Infinite Heat as they hold Primordial Fire within them, which was recently accepted as having that level of heat.

Then i think withstand that will give you durabillity instead resistance

Sealing Negation (Can absorb and sacrifice enemy souls to nullify seals)" This seems more like a function of the seal itself. (God Kratos key

Seems more like limited negation

I agree with everything else

 

[Planck69]

Why this is a resistance?
And arent you should give some scan about "withstand" here?

I mean, sure, gimme a second. I had assumed "Odin tanks the main character's weapons" would be self evident.

Then i think withstand that will give you durabillity instead resistance

Heat resistance feats give you heat resistance lol. And this is just labelling the heat on the profile.

Seems more like limited negation

I agree with everything else

Can you elaborate what about it is limited?

 

[Fixxed]

I had assumed "Odin tanks the main character's weapons" would be self evident.

I dont think so, so many enemy can "tank" that. And arent you literally can affect odin using BoC?

Heat resistance feats give you heat resistance lol. And this is just labelling the heat on the profile.

I thought that was an infinite output of energy

Can you elaborate what about it is limited?

I dont know honestly, i just think even if it was just a mechanism of something, if someone can negate that then it suppose to count as such

 

[Planck69]

I dont think so, so many enemy can "tank" that. And arent you literally can affect odin using BoC?

You can freeze and immolate draugr and other monsters while gods and divine beings are very much unaffected. Just taking damage isn't the same as that.

And even if the above weren't the case, this isn't really any argument beyond "I don't think that many people should resist".

I thought that was an infinite output of energy

I dont know honestly, i just think even if it was just a mechanism of something, if someone can negate that then it suppose to count as such

That's not how we put things as Limited.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

OP looks fine to me.

 

[Reiner04]

Looks straightforward enough

 

[Fixxed]

You can freeze and immolate draugr and other monsters while gods and divine beings are very much unaffected. Just taking damage isn't the same as that.

And even if the above weren't the case, this isn't really any argument beyond "I don't think that many people should resist".

That was fine then

You write "Could withstand being attacked..", i think you literally say odin cannot be attacked by BoC physically

 

[Planck69]

That was fine then

You write "Could withstand being attacked..", i think you literally say odin cannot be attacked by BoC physically

Yeah, I could probably word that better.

 

[Random-Helper323]

This looks good. Agreed.

I initially started to respond to each proposal, but that post was going to be way too long.

 

[Pepsimanslover]

OP looks great.

 

[Eseseso]

This is wild but I agree, even if the Infinite Heat is a bit weird

 

[Elizhaa]

These changes look fine.

 

[Felipe_Walker16]

I Agree.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Looks solid.

 

[Planck69]

It's been 2 days and with unanimous approval. I'll get to implementing the thread.

 

[ShionAH]

Why would lighting up Infinite sized place be Infinite heat? Isn't that just range and speed?

 

[Planck69]

Why would lighting up Infinite sized place be Infinite heat? Isn't that just range?

The Sun provides heat as well when doing so, not just radiance.

And this has already been added in a previous CRT, the above is just adding the labelling to the Blades for having primordial fire.

 

[Pepsimanslover]

Why would lighting up Infinite sized place be Infinite heat? Isn't that just range and speed?

We asked DT about it. Same reason for infinite Energy for that and all.

 

[Huesito88]

We asked DT about it. Same reason for infinite Energy for that and all.

So would any Big Bang that creates a infinite size universe also have infinite kelvin?

 

[ShionAH]

The Sun provides heat as well when doing so, not just radiance.

Where did you get that it would need Infinite heat? It could be 10 degrees and still light it up through its Infinite speed and range

And this has already been added in a previous CRT, the above is just adding the labelling to the Blades for having primordial fire.

I know I am just asking because I read that CRT and this didn’t make sense to me, just questioning for now to see if there’s anything I missed

 

[Pepsimanslover]

So would any Big Bang that creates a infinite size universe also have infinite kelvin?

Yeah. Any High-3A feat is technically infinite heat to start with.

 

[ShionAH]

Before I go last question, why do we treat Helios light illuminating the underground world as Infinite speed? Wouldn't that just be range? I prolly missed something

 

[Pepsimanslover]

Before I go last question, why do we treat Helios light illuminating the underground world as Infinite speed? Wouldn't that just be range? I prolly missed something

It traveled? Lol.

 

[KLOL506]

Before I go last question, why do we treat Helios light illuminating the underground world as Infinite speed? Wouldn't that just be range? I prolly missed something

Light beams literally have a distance component LOL.

Speed = Distance / Time. It's why illuminating constructs like the universe is both a speed feat (For finite sized objects you need a timeframe to find speed, for infinite-sized objects you just need a statement of it having illuminated the whole construct lmao) on top of being an AP feat because of luminosity (This one doesn't need speed because LOL FTL).

 

[KLOL506]

Where did you get that it would need Infinite heat? It could be 10 degrees and still light it up through its Infinite speed and range

DontTalk himself stated it.

Me: Second question. Let's say someone illuminated an infinite-sized construct. Would that amount to infinite heat as well, or nah? If so, why?

DontTalkDT: Light would work. Just about anything that has infinite energy would have infinite heat. Which is why just about any high 3-A dura character can probably withstand it as well.

https://vsbattles.com/profile-posts/114887/

 

[KLOL506]

So would any Big Bang that creates a infinite size universe also have infinite kelvin?

Correct.

 

[Planck69]

Applied the changes. Closing this.