Another minor Red Rising CRT

[Ecronicron]

My proposals:

1. Darrow and the other characters should have hypersonic+ speed with pulseFire, not only because it's explicitly stated to hypersonic but it also outspeeds a starShell in launch which travels at mach ten.

2. StarShells themselves should be upgraded to small building level as their armor was strong enough to tank a nuclear bomb that vaporized nearby humans. In the same link you can find a scan for particle beams outputting gigajoules of energy, while no character that uses particle cannons is on this wiki, I would rather have them upgraded to building level now so we can add them later.

3. some terminology on the profiles is also outdated such as Darrow having "high" intelligence instead of "gifted"

I will make another CRT soon on the AP of razors

 

[OMsHanT69]

I will make another CRT soon on the AP of razors

Nobody gives a f*ck

Also disagree FRB

 

[Ecronicron]

Nobody gives a f*ck

Also disagree FRB

You'll be helping me make that CRT dum dum

 

[OMsHanT69]

You'll be helping me make that CRT dum dum

No.

 

[OMsHanT69]

Bump

 

[OMsHanT69]

Bump

 

[Ecronicron]

Bump

Bum

 

[Ecronicron]

So this is CRT hell.

Bump bump bump

 

[OMsHanT69]

So this is CRT hell.

Bump bump bump

 

[WanderingGecko]

a starShell in launch which travels at mach ten.

I’m sure they're referring to the actual value of hypersonic speed, which starts at Mach 5, not Mach 10, unless you can prove that what they’re mentioning is indeed our Mach 10 value.

3. some terminology on the profiles is also outdated such as Darrow having "high" intelligence instead of "gifted"

You’d have to bring scans and explain why he deserves a Gifted rating instead of just High. Right now, you’re not doing that.

As for the Building level rating, I agree.

 

[Ecronicron]

I’m sure they're referring to the actual value of hypersonic speed, which starts at Mach 5, not Mach 10, unless you can prove that what they’re mentioning is indeed our Mach 10 value.

Ah you didn't read the second scan. If you click the link then I attached two images, the first one is from Morningstar where Darrow calls pulseFire hypersonic which means it is at minimum mach 5. The second scan is from golden son where Darrow launches himself through space at mach ten but his pulseFire shockwaves are able to surpass his travel speed making them over mach ten or hypersonic+

You’d have to bring scans and explain why he deserves a Gifted rating instead of just High. Right now, you’re not doing that.

It's already on his profile but is being used as justification for "high" intelligence. The terminology just got updated (check here https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Intelligence)

 

[WanderingGecko]

Ah you didn't read the second scan. If you click the link then I attached two images, the first one is from Morningstar where Darrow calls pulseFire hypersonic which means it is at minimum mach 5. The second scan is from golden son where Darrow launches himself through space at mach ten but his pulseFire shockwaves are able to surpass his travel speed making them over mach ten or hypersonic+

Oh, the second scan didn’t load in. I guess that’s aight then.

It's already on his profile but is being used as justification for "high" intelligence.

I know, but there’s no scan backing up said justification. And the reasoning on his profile isn’t enough to be deemed Gifted. I still see it as just being High, not Gifted.

 

[Ecronicron]

And the reasoning on his profile isn’t enough to be deemed Gifted. I still see it as just being High, not Gifted.

There is no such thing as "high intelligence" in this wiki anymore bro. If it was accepted as high before then it is automatically gifted now. If you instead want to downgrade him to above average then make a crt please

 

[Ecronicron]

Bump

 

[Ecronicron]

Holy bump bruh

 

[Ecronicron]

Bump ad infinitum

 

[Ecronicron]

Bum-p

 

[Ecronicron]

got aired by literally every mod

 

[OMsHanT69]

got aired by literally every mod

Weserved

 

[Ecronicron]

Bump-bump-bump

 

[Random-Helper323]

All of this needs calculations, not just statements.

 

[Ecronicron]

All of this needs calculations, not just statements.

What about it would need calculations?

The hypersonic+ rating for pulseFire is obvious due to them outspeeding a projectile moving at mach ten. I'm not attempting to get an accurate number, just a tier so calculating the exact speed is unnecessary.

For starShell durability I did link a calc from the common feats page

Building level is accepted as 1.046x10^9 joules. Given that the statement says "Gigajoules of energy" (the plural implying more than one) that tier would be self-evident, no?

 

[Ecronicron]

Because this is a novel it's near impossible to calc the feats without a visual aid so I am just taking the bare minimum values which are taken from the statements for each of these.

All of this needs calculations, not just statements.

 

[Ecronicron]

Bump

 

[FinePoint]

The first and third things are probably fine.

I'd want a CGM's opinion on the second thing.

 

[Ecronicron]

I'd want a CGM's opinion on the second thing.

How do I do that?

 

[FinePoint]

How do I do that?

Just ask one of them to comment.

 

[Ecronicron]

Just ask one of them to comment.

Do we really need a CGM? isn't the whole point of the common reference page so we don't have to eval every single calc?

Edit: the calc for vaporizing humans is already accepted on that page

 

[FinePoint]

Do we really need a CGM? isn't the whole point of the common reference page so we don't have to eval every single calc?

Edit: the calc for vaporizing humans is already accepted on that page

It's more that I'm unsure if that's the best benchmark to use here, considering the source was a nuclear weapon and I believe we have separate standards for that kind of thing.

 

[Ecronicron]

I asked a guy but it might take a while for him to respond. Can you tag someone to speed up the process?

It's more that I'm unsure if that's the best benchmark to use here, considering the source was a nuclear weapon and I believe we have separate standards for that kind of thing.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Proposal 2 is definitely straight up higher than the vaporization of a person. It says that the "center" of the fireball vaporizes people, and metal. Metal will yield a higher value compared to flesh (even as vague as the term is, we could at the very least assume steel). It's also probably just higher than the volume of a person, this "center", though it does not seem to elaborate as to its size in the provided scan.

Because this is a fireball, though, even if we had a value, it becomes Tricksome. Distance from the center point of the explosion is extremely relevant in determining durability. I will say that I can sign off on "At least Small Building level, likely far higher", given that this is a standard feat, and my impression is that this probably hits at least one tier higher than we're listing it as. If more information is given, we could possibly be a bit more accurate.

 

[Ecronicron]

Proposal 2 is definitely straight up higher than the vaporization of a person. It says that the "center" of the fireball vaporizes people, and metal. Metal will yield a higher value compared to flesh (even as vague as the term is, we could at the very least assume steel). It's also probably just higher than the volume of a person, this "center", though it does not seem to elaborate as to its size in the provided scan.

it is a fictional alloy called duraSteel. Unfortunately we don't have much information on it or visuals hence why I was willing to settle for small building level. I will take the higher modifier tho



Now if only I can get one more mod to accept this CRT

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I am a mod! Everything in the OP seems fine. I'd put a tack in the Dura feat since, again, it is likely to be significantly higher; if specific values are ever given, it would be very, very helpful.

 

[Ecronicron]

I am a mod! Everything in the OP seems fine. I'd put a tack in the Dura feat since, again, it is likely to be significantly higher; if specific values are ever given, it would be very, very helpful.

Thank you! I've been trying to get this CRT done for a month so it's a relief to be over.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Mhmm. Say here when the revisions are applied, so I can close this up.

 

[Ecronicron]

I'm done

Mhmm. Say here when the revisions are applied, so I can close this up.