Eden_Warlock99
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They're both FTL, no? So think it's Supersonic, which is still basically immobile to Knight's FTL travel speed.
The Knight is going to pull this move again
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Alastor (Hazbin Hotel) vs Roaring Knight (Deltarune)
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The Knight is going to pull this move again
Qurbonboev
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First type of duraneg destroys 67% of hp, and one cut can cover many tentacles at once. Second(Final Attack) does inflicts fixed amount of damage. So for benchmark you can take how fast does Ralsei melts from Final attack(minus his invisibility frames, that tentacles would obviously lack).
It means he can't run outrun line of swords at all
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For now I see the Knight winning, based on what's been said here
The Roaring Knight FRA
The Roaring Knight FRA
Qurbonboev
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Bump.
Was busy with UT CRT
So, anyone want to vote?
Was busy with UT CRT
So, anyone want to vote?
Papyrus would aurafarm on Alastor so hardThey're both FTL, no? So think it's Supersonic, which is still basically immobile to Knight's FTL travel speed.
The Knight is going to pull this move again
Qurbonboev
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Hold on, we were too busy talking about whether Alastor could kill a Titan, that we forgot about more important stuff: Can Alastor even do anything at it's presence? Does Alastor have anything to overcome passive fear, that both Titan and it's spawns have?
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It's not crippling fear, if anything it's going to make Alastor actually take it seriously than anything else.
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(So when Sans Empathic manip doesn't do shit against Frisk, it's due to Player. But when shaking Susie fights with Titan, Player in no shape or form is involved)
Jokes aside, Susie has Supernatural willpower, wanted smoke against Knight, who blitzed and annihilated her, and then packed up strongest peep in Hometown, scales to Berdly who had power to collect darkners and create a mecha in a mere minutes, while being drained of energy, and with fried hand. And at this point Susie already fought and beat Titanspawn, who have fearhax as well. Alastor would realistically would feel Titan effect much more strongly.
Besides, main utility of Titan is that it would force Alastor attention on it, and would give Knight a moment for sneak attack+TK.
So, what attacking move does Alastor have that has 100m+ AoE?
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You forgot that it would also need to have regen neg on the level of the titan
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Supernatural Willpower isn't necessarily going to counter Fear hax, especially in this case where the only effect was the fear itself (Making Susie shake) rather than forcing her to give up or lose the will to fight. Like, Susie still fought against the Titan, and so did Ralsei despite not having any similar willpower.
This one.
Hazbin Hotel - Pentious gets screwed
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Ig if he also has his Angelic Weapons he can just null the Titan's regen
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Does it have 100m AoE tho?
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Don't need to. Every part Alastor cuts off, the Titan won't be able to regenerate.
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Yeah but how big is the AoE? If its too small it won't do a thing (also how does he deal with fear hax)
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A single swing ripped an Exorcist in half. Alastor has several and is swinging them with Tier 5 AP (He deals with the fear hax by killing the Titan)
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Human heart shaped elephant in the room
Why isn't it in verse page?
Wait, what else than angelic weapons have non-physical interaction? Cus insides of Titan is just darkness
1. Angelic weapons are optional equipment, so...
2. If you forgot, source of Titan regeneration is Fountain, so he would need to target it(which is in bottom of Titan) with it, so...
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They were all ready to fight it in the cutscene before, sooo
It's there.
I mean without em he can't actually do anything to the Titan, so it sorta becomes a stomp ya know
I don't think the source matters much, it's not like AWs attack the source of Sinners' regen to stop it.
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At that point they already fear resist
Mb. Looked at wrong value
Nah, his goal is to kill Knight, not the Titan
If verse page isn't lying to me, sinner regen is based on their soul surviving, and angelic weapons counter it by erasing soul
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The Titan Spawn's fear ain't do much either tbh
I mean if the Knight is 100% summoning a Titan and dipping (Since they're aware of the AP gap), is it that different?
They only really screw with souls upon death
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Ehh, how much does he uses them in character?
Interesting.
Still if he tries to attack head(something that most people would do if they saw a guy with insane regen) with angelic weapon it wouldn't work. He deletes head, yeah, but fountain would heal it anyway. Titan regen is based on it absorbing Titanspawns, and they would spawn as long as Titan and Fountain exists
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He used them when he had them with hentai tentacles
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You can't heal from AWs
Qurbonboev
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Can you elaborate. Is there anybody in the verse who was only wounded by them?
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Alastor and Stolas. They scarred though, and Stolas had medical attention while Al only had cigarettes, alcohol, and stitches, so... eh?
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ShionAH
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It... can't be regenerated. Wdym eloborate? It's the ENTIRE point of them.
Yes. Stolas who has super regeneration abilities couldn't, Alastor couldn't heal from his slice against Adam despite Sinners having Low-Godly.
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Well, technically Alastor HAS healed some, he's got blatant scarring from it, it's just between Season 1 and Season 2 Alastor hasn't fully healed.
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Didn’t Vaggi regrow her wings after getting them cut off by AW?
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Wrong, Lute clipped her wings with her bare hands
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They were ripped off by Lute's bare hands BUT her eye was cut off by AW and guess what?
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You see that big jagged dark spot, Shion? Ya know, that's on every single one of Alastor's models when his shirt is opened?
ShionAH
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Huh?? You can see his wound is still open dude?? We don't know if that darkened spot is from the attack or from Alastor's body just being built like that. You are looking way too deep and missing the main point
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Guess I misremembered
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In case you forgot, Adam ripped Al open from chest to ******* hip and if he went any deeper he'd have probably severed Al's spine.
Damn, such a deep, brutal wound remaining, Shion...
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Ok, I am curious.
Sinner physiology list regeneration as possible high-mid, and overtime low-godly(since they would regenerate from their soul eventually). Angelic weapons have regeneration negation up to low-godly, because they can kill demons and destroy their souls, thus preventing their regeneration. By this logic everyone with soul damage should have regeneration negation up to low godly, since such beings can kill beings with such regeneration(which usually is some variation of can't kill fully till my soul exists). And why would regeneration negation of angelic weapons would even work on Titan, soulless being?
Maybe I am missing very important(or your verse is outdated), but angelic weapons regeneration negation should only be up to high-mid(not enough for Titan mid-high)
Sinner physiology list regeneration as possible high-mid, and overtime low-godly(since they would regenerate from their soul eventually). Angelic weapons have regeneration negation up to low-godly, because they can kill demons and destroy their souls, thus preventing their regeneration. By this logic everyone with soul damage should have regeneration negation up to low godly, since such beings can kill beings with such regeneration(which usually is some variation of can't kill fully till my soul exists). And why would regeneration negation of angelic weapons would even work on Titan, soulless being?
Maybe I am missing very important(or your verse is outdated), but angelic weapons regeneration negation should only be up to high-mid(not enough for Titan mid-high)
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Basically.
Angelic Weapons completely stop regeneration. Nothing more nothing less, you can't heal from them but you'll be survive if it's not lethal. This is one thing.
NOW. IF it's a lethal hit that would have killed you normally then it basically takes it a step further and erases your soul completely.
It's a two different powers
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Notice, again, the dark area? Scarring.
Woah!! It's good as new Al!!
We also never saw how deep Adam hit Al, it blacks out
That is my point. And don't give me "We don't see how deep it went", you can use Dickmaster's ******' axe to answer how deep it went.
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Up to what physical level of regeneration they can negate regeneration, if they aren't capable of killing target in one blow?
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But that's a feat for Alastor for limited Regen Negation resistance and better type 2 Immortality. He's the exception, everyone else we've seen get properly gutted by an AW not named Lucifer died to it.
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They can stop Low-Godly of Sinners like I mentioned.
Any proof its from the axe hit and not something he naturally has??
No reason to continue this petty argument as its irrelevant
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