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Ken Kaneki Vs Yuta Okkotsu & Yuji Itadori (Tokyo Ghoul Vs Jujutsu Kaisen)

LaserPrecision said:
Your weakness is fire, huh? Thanks for the tip grins
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WHY DID YOU THAT!?!??!?! THE BEN "26D" 10 FANS ARe COMMINGGGGG

Man I wish JJK vs CSM fights that aren't Gojo, Sukuna, and Makima were fairer lol.
 
Just a whole bunch of yap. I guess I'll start.
Anyways Kaneki has his tentacle sheits and his RE, regen, shockwaves he can apparently spam that oneshots those comparable to him, that sort of thing. So anything that isn't soul damage won't do shit to him.
Yuji has soul damage slashes and domain diff.
Yuta has copied abilities like Cursed Speech, Shrine, or Charles things.
Skill I'll give to Kaneki probably. Yutaji shouldn't be TOO far behind but I digress.

Alright so off the jump, Yuta would probably be the first to go. He doesn't have anything too flashy and even then, his cursed speech usage is GENUINELY fodder because he doesn't use like most of the commands, except "die", which was only on a group of flying shikigami.
Yuji would likely be the carry due to soul damage slashes that basically spawn on the opponent with no regard to human life.
Question is... is Kaneki able to get soul damage resistance if the soul damage hits?
If yes, Voting Kaneki, low-mid diff.
If no, voting, Yutaji, mid-high diff.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
Just a whole bunch of yap. I guess I'll start.
Anyways Kaneki has his tentacle sheits and his RE, regen, shockwaves he can apparently spam that oneshots those comparable to him, that sort of thing. So anything that isn't soul damage won't do shit to him.
Yuji has soul damage slashes and domain diff.
Yuta has copied abilities like Cursed Speech, Shrine, or Charles things.
Skill I'll give to Kaneki probably. Yutaji shouldn't be TOO far behind but I digress.

Alright so off the jump, Yuta would probably be the first to go. He doesn't have anything too flashy and even then, his cursed speech usage is GENUINELY fodder because he doesn't use like most of the commands, except "die", which was only on a group of flying shikigami.
Yuji would likely be the carry due to soul damage slashes that basically spawn on the opponent with no regard to human life.
Question is... is Kaneki able to get soul damage resistance if the soul damage hits?
If yes, Voting Kaneki, low-mid diff.
If no, voting, Yutaji, mid-high diff.
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nvm on the curse speech part. What's with characters with great hax that they barely use to the max?
 
I don't care who wins, I just want this to be over so the supporters can concentrate on working for the verse. Put my vote for whoever is winning so this ends as quickly as possible. If Kaneki is winning, put me for him. If Yutadori are winning, put me for them. If people are voting for incon put me for that.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
Just a whole bunch of yap. I guess I'll start.
Anyways Kaneki has his tentacle sheits and his RE, regen, shockwaves he can apparently spam that oneshots those comparable to him, that sort of thing. So anything that isn't soul damage won't do shit to him.
Yuji has soul damage slashes and domain diff.
Yuta has copied abilities like Cursed Speech, Shrine, or Charles things.
Skill I'll give to Kaneki probably. Yutaji shouldn't be TOO far behind but I digress.

Alright so off the jump, Yuta would probably be the first to go. He doesn't have anything too flashy and even then, his cursed speech usage is GENUINELY fodder because he doesn't use like most of the commands, except "die", which was only on a group of flying shikigami.
Yuji would likely be the carry due to soul damage slashes that basically spawn on the opponent with no regard to human life.
Question is... is Kaneki able to get soul damage resistance if the soul damage hits?
If yes, Voting Kaneki, low-mid diff.
If no, voting, Yutaji, mid-high diff.
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I dont think Ken's RE is advance enough to develop soul resistance
 
Kaneki having knowledge on soul damage will make it so he defends specifically with his Kagune, that can regen neg up to High-Mid, and also very easily spamable from every direction. How does Yuta/Yuji deal with constant danmaku pressure, shockwaves that can one tap and far better mobility
 
technically the kagune is part of his body, soooo..... won't it be connected to his soul by technicality?
 
Doggo said:
technically the kagune is part of his body, soooo..... won't it be connected to his soul by technicality?
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I think me and someone else had an argument about this a while ago, but we concluded on it not having one. But I'm willing to grant it would for the sake of this discussion, I think Kaneki still has the wincon advantages
 
Kaneki skill-stomps (predication, copying techniques, and information analysis), outspeeds (way better speed amps with kagune and kakuja), has way better range, and will eventually grow to one-shot them both.

soul damage is the only thing that's worrying, but as far as i know that's not an insta-kill and would just weaken him, but since kaneki gets stronger by getting damaged, he'll just need to outgrow his weakening.

yuji's poison blood would be useless since kaneki just resists, and has resisted way worse things like ghoul cancer.

most of yuta's hax are useless here. so i'll vote kaneki for now.
 
Yuta would have carried if he wasnt an actual bum. Bro, use your hax please 😭

Unravel FRA (I fricking love listening to Ado's cover of it lol)
 
Voting Kaneki as well for now. Cast I think waiting on Kaneki's new profile would be best, M2u12 is doing a very good job with making it far more readable and adding more abilities
 
Foriaa said:
Voting Kaneki as well for now. Cast I think waiting on Kaneki's new profile would be best, M2u12 is doing a very good job with making it far more readable and adding more abilities
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Can you DM me a link?
 
Doggo said:
technically the kagune is part of his body, soooo..... won't it be connected to his soul by technicality?
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From Nik's words just about, Kagune is basically an extension-ish of his body-ish. Like extra arms persay.
For this sake, yes.

But since Soul Hax wouldn't matter too much, as much as I want to vote for Yutadori, going with Kaneki, low-mid diff.
Yuta doesn't use his hax and it's why he f&@$ing loses so much. If he's bloodlusted tho...
But Kaneki low-mid diff for my args above.
 
I'm going to bed now, but I'll make a couple of notes:

Kaneki's Advantages:

1) High-mid regeneration
2) Advantage in reaction speed and slower perception
3) Ability to block Yuji's attacks to his liking with his kagune
4) Advantage in skills (Kaneki was able to match Arima, who calculates 645 ways to kill an opponent in seconds. Kaneki himself surpasses Shachi, who resists analytical prediction and is able to read enemies several steps ahead)
5) Tentacles tens of meters long, eight or more in number, each capable of speaking, biting off chunks of flesh, bursting out of the ground, and freely changing trajectory - offsets the enemy's numerical advantage
6) Kakuja provides blitz and one-shot amp
7) RE + AD
8) LS coupled with an advantage in AP will allow him to literally rip the heads off sorcerers
9) Durability negating attacks with A kagune, like the one Furuta used on him, which allows him to rip apart opponents' kagune from the inside.
10) Instinctive reactions and supersenses allow him to avoid surprise attacks and possibly some of Riki's attacks.

Advantages of a duo:

1) Obvious numerical advantage
2) Greater variety of abilities thanks to Yuta
3) Cursed speech paralysis should probably give him a minimal advantage
4) Soul damage isn't something Kaneki can handle.

Regarding Ark's question about whether Kaneki can adapt to spiritual damage through RE, I'm not sure. However, if Kaneki already possesses cursed energy according to the rules, then the possibility of adaptation is possible.

Knowing how dangerous Yuji is and realizing he's facing opponents with strength he's never encountered before, he'll likely activate his kakuja as he did against Suzuya and close the distance with a blitz amp. He'll dodge all attacks with instinctive action, skills, experience fighting multiple enemies at once, and accelerated perception, and immediately rip Yuji's head off or rip his kagune off. Yuta can use DE, but thanks to his stat advantage, AD, and kakuja, he'll withstand all attacks. When Yuta gets close, he'll simply kill him with a shockwave.
 
NikHelton said:
Cursed speech paralysis should probably give him a minimal advantage
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He doesn't use it. He doesn't use cursed speech. Only reason it's there is because of copy and even then, he won't use it.

NikHelton said:
Greater variety of abilities thanks to Yuta
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He doesn't use half of them. Useless.
NikHelton said:
Yuta can use DE
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AML is likely one of the worst domains in JJK arguably. Not because of what it does, but because of who does it. Yes, Yuta's attacks become a sure hit but it won't really do much else other than that lol.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
From Nik's words just about, Kagune is basically an extension-ish of his body-ish. Like extra arms persay.
For this sake, yes.

But since Soul Hax wouldn't matter too much, as much as I want to vote for Yutadori, going with Kaneki, low-mid diff.
Yuta doesn't use his hax and it's why he f&@$ing loses so much. If he's bloodlusted tho...
But Kaneki low-mid diff for my args above.
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The kagune is not the core of life energy and usually disintegrates completely when the body is detached. Therefore, spiritual damage will not affect it.
 
NikHelton said:
The kagune is not the core of life energy and usually disintegrates completely when the body is detached. Therefore, spiritual damage will not affect it.
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That's f*%#ed up then but from what I can recall, Shrine slashes spawn on the person itself. So uhhh...
 
Arkansalter2 said:
He doesn't use it. He doesn't use cursed speech. Only reason it's there is because of copy and even then, he won't use it.


He doesn't use half of them. Useless.

AML is likely one of the worst domains in JJK arguably. Not because of what it does, but because of who does it. Yes, Yuta's attacks become a sure hit but it won't really do much else other than that lol.
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A victim of untapped potential.

I felt sorry for this guy when Gege started imposing restrictions like having to eat body parts to copy powers, and if the sorcerer restored that body part, Yuta would lose his new ability.
 
Thing is, they are made of RC cells, which are akin to blood cells in the verse. They are very much a part of the body and therefore a part of the soul


NikHelton said:
usually disintegrates completely when the body is detached
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I don't think that really matters. Sure, if it's disconnected, it's no longer part of him. But it should still hold his soul if they are still attached.

Kagune is literally considered an organ
 
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