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Ken Kaneki Vs Yuta Okkotsu & Yuji Itadori (Tokyo Ghoul Vs Jujutsu Kaisen)
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Toji Vs Kaneki next fr
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Voting Kaneki FRA
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We already have Kaneki vs. Maki
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Yeah but Toji is Toji. Kaneki Vs Dabura or Prime Yuji would be hilarious though
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@LIFE_OF_KING said he doesnt want to run that fade
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All I hear is Rela Kaneki Vs Rela Daburarela tokyo ghoul
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Like 9-10 votes for Kaneki?
ShionAH
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How much for the duo?
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Probably like only 1 from Robo lol
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i didn't vote for anyone???
if castorice is OP then kaneki will win
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So if I make Kaneki Vs Goku
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somehow you'll **** up the votes and make kaneki win
ShionAH
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This feels... weird. I don't see how having a decent AP advantage saves him from a 1v3 inside of a domain which can be further continued with another domain all while he is facing really "caught off guard" type of hax like Cursed Speech, sudden Sky Manipulation into TIB and stuff.
If Yuta uses Jacobs Ladder as surehit Kaneki literally only has his fists and can't even use his Kagune or anything for the entire duration? He can't kill them as they all have pretty good RCT. I haven't read Tokyo Ghoul fully but I hopefully will in the future but I don't see how Ken can fight a 1v3 while powernulled against a haxer like Yuta, a giant brawler like Rika and Yuji
Am I missing something?? Is Ken that much of a skill dude to win a 1v3 with no abilities against so many haxes against two alr skilled characters??
If Yuta uses Jacobs Ladder as surehit Kaneki literally only has his fists and can't even use his Kagune or anything for the entire duration? He can't kill them as they all have pretty good RCT. I haven't read Tokyo Ghoul fully but I hopefully will in the future but I don't see how Ken can fight a 1v3 while powernulled against a haxer like Yuta, a giant brawler like Rika and Yuji
Am I missing something?? Is Ken that much of a skill dude to win a 1v3 with no abilities against so many haxes against two alr skilled characters??
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This type of shit is the reason why I dont count votes for most matches anymore
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Both have 7-C key
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You're arguing it wrong. You shouldnt be arguing for Authentic Mutual Love. You should be arguing for this Domain
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Do you have vote
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It's cuz Kagune are biological, Cursed Techniques are abstract energy. Jacob's Ladder isn't assumed to work on it if I get the gist (There are biological aspects to Jujutsu tho. The technique is engraved into the brain after all. So take that as you will)
ShionAH
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Why would that matter? Cursed Techniques can also be biological. Blood Manipulation, Immortality, Body Swap, Arata, Hanyu's and Haba's technique, Hazenoki's technique, Chizuru, Rin's are all biological techniques. Kagune would be basically exactly what Hanyu and Haba can do lol.
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Body Swap ain't biological. It swaps souls. Immortality is debatable cuz Tengen evolved to live without a body. Everything else is fine (I think). But I say it cuz I'm pretty sure Angel's Ladder nullifies the Cursed Energy itself rather than like, affecting the actual biology given how techniques work. Again, I think a better argument is using the fact Techniques are engraved into the brain :/
ShionAH
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Jacobs Ladder does not nullify Cursed Energy, otherwise Sukuna wouldn't even be able to reinforce during it. It shuts off all techniques. I don't think Kagune is anything different than say Hanyu and Haba.
You know there can be two arguments at once right? You can use it to support the other, we don2t have to choose... ONE of them and ignore the other.
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Kaneki has over eight limbs to counteract his opponent's numerical superiority. Superior AP and LS will literally allow him to break bones and tear apart the duo. Superior reaction time, accelerated perception, instinctive action, blitz amp, and the ability to read the opponent several steps ahead and adapt will make him simply untouchable in direct combat. Jacob's Ladder will be completely useless against him.
Machmatej
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i was talking about the ROS disease from the dragon toxin but this is so peak
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Yeah, but a Cursed Technique is done via pouring Cursed Energy into the engraving in the brain. And Cursed Techniques are typically manifested as Cursed Energy, Even with Blood Manip, you're just using Cursed Energy to assert telekinetic control over your own blood. Hazenoki's imbues Cursed Energy into body parts that explode. Haba and Hanyu's lets them control their hair via CE. Maybe there's like niche exceptions but well... Well I'll say after this second part
No one said that. I just said it seemed like a more secure argument cuz that shows that the SOURCE of a technique is biological. I think the source of a technique will tend to matter more than the end result. Like Cursed Techniques and Quirks for example are much different. One is just a biological mutation. Cursed Techniques are things engraved into your soul and manifest as pocket dimensions inside of you. They are clearly a lot different. I wouldn't say Aizawa's quirk would affect Sorcerers. I dunno if I'd say Jacob's Ladder does the same if all we're told was "it nullifies cursed techniques." But if you mention the fact Techniques are at their source also biological (Body information reflects the soul, and the brain has the technique also engraved) you're more likely to convince Jacob's Ladder could null quirks.
Do whichever you prefer, but I tend to prefer points more likely to convince the opposing side.
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Oh, buddy, if you equate kagune with cursed techniques, then it turns out Kaneki annihilates Mahoraga
Machmatej
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eh, quirks are also kind of tied to the soul via the quirk factor, which contains their consciousness, memories, and even their spirit in a similar little spirit world. of course, the biological part of them are why you get powers in the first place, but quirks and CE are similar in your example
ShionAH
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Okay?? Why tf would we not? He would have CE and his abilities would count as a technique, is that not how we do JJK matches? I find it dumb to say "uh well it's a different verse so the powernull ability wouldn't powernull"
I personally don't see why Kagune's wouldn't be affected by JL which leaves a powerless Ken against 3 people inside of a domain with several important haxes all while his opponents can heal from his damage. Meaning they basically mid diff his ass.
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Fair. Still a bit different in how they fundamentally function, but there's more parallels then I gave credit for.
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The other verse is assumed to have fundamental energies (that are a result of smth fundamental, like ki is tied to being alive, ce is tied to negative emotions, etc.), but that doesn't mean power systems are equalized. The energy systems need to be similar enough to be equalized. Having cancer cells that give you tentacles isn't similar to cursed techniques enough to be equalized. Or well, maybe you may argue otherwise, but I think that's what most people here are thinking.
ShionAH
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I am looking at what he is doing, which is creating tentacles from his body. Which is exactly what several cursed techniques can also do in a similar way.
If we are going off this logic that he cannot use CTs and only has a really low CE then wouldn't Rika be basically Invulnerable to Kaneki?
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Yes. We've treated Shikigami's and Curse's as invulnerable in literally every match. The only time we wouldn't is if the energy systems were similar enough to be equalized. In which they could do whatever the hell they want to Rika. In most cases tho they can't even see Rika. Let alone harm her.
Machmatej
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no and battle spirit isn't esp
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I love Yushiro blindfolds for JJK matchups
Machmatej
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nothing of the sort. maybe you could argue his enhanced senses could pick up movements from someone invisible, but i don't know how effective that could be.
Machmatej
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he avoids it, but he has killed and eaten both ghouls and humans when pressed. if he fails to restrain himself or can't knock them out because of RCT, he'll eventually try going for a killing blow.
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