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Kaneki already beat Sukuna. We know how Dabura Vs Kaneki is going to go. Modulo Yuji Vs Kaneki is a good one.
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Ken Kaneki Vs Yuta Okkotsu & Yuji Itadori (Tokyo Ghoul Vs Jujutsu Kaisen)
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Kaneki would laugh at that sorta attack
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Breaks all of these character's back low-mid diff.
Kaneki is just farming JJK at this point
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Except that Yuji would be landing soul rendering punches or worse dismantles on him... which he does not laugh off
and you asked for how much it lasts, i answered by showing examples
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Couldn't even happen in the first place due to the pressure being provided.
Yes, so I could respond.
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What pressure? he would be frozen in place under CS lol
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The pressure being provided before that happens, refer to my messages above
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Why would any amount of "pressure" stop Yuta from pressing a "stop pressure" button, ie CS
Why would it stop Yuta from shielding himself with Rika, who is invulnerable and invisible to open domain
Both Yuta and Yuji can survive fatal amounts of damage from Sukuna's dismantle danmaku and still keep on fighting using RCT, simple pressure is not stop Yuta from opening his domain, or let alone both of their domains as Yuji's would be even deadlier actually
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He'll have to stop continuous barrages of attacks are are all stronger than him, do you mind showing Yuta activating cursed speech under that much pressure?
Can Rika cover Yuta's entire body? Kaneki can attack from every direction, including beneath the ground.
Kaneki can neg regen up to High-Mid, the pressure Sukuna is providing is inferior to what Kaneki is doing with his Kagune that can form to whatever shape he'd like and attack from behind/beneath/above. Kaneki also has a massive LS diff so grabbing at them after baiting their blocks and tearing them apart is a very realistic outcome.
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Nah you’re not leaving. Go for 10 pages
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Why would attacks stop Yuta from simply saying "stop"
and prove that Kaneki decides to spam attacks non stop frame 1 without knowing about any of Yuta's abilities
Yuta can endure barrages of attacks stronger than himself just fine
and kaneki would spam allat how and why?
all Rika needs is to stop initial barrage, even if you're so sceptical of Yuta simply doing a hand sign or even just saying a word
But anyway yes actually, Rika can get gigantic
Or even better she can straight be used as a room
How does Kaneki neg regen? does every single attack of his neg regen? would he know he has to neg their regen immediately?
Pretty sure barrages of invisible slashes that can be sent in any shapes are not that inferior to that, not to the point Yuji or Yuta cant just pop their domain
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Im voting Yuji and Yuta then
Also what's the vote count @CastoriceTheFifth
Also what's the vote count @CastoriceTheFifth
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Because Kagune's are just a bunch of cells rushing out of the kakuho organ and forming a semi solid/liquid state.
Can JL negate biological stuff? Did it negate Sukuna's transformation or his weird ass 4 arms? No, because JL nullifies cursed techniques or in verse equalization it would be supernatural shit, not biological changes based on cellular movement.
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It can negate techniques that are literally biologically inside ones brain.
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The advantage in speed, reaction and perception makes itself feltWhy would attacks stop Yuta from simply saying "stop"
and prove that Kaneki decides to spam attacks non stop frame 1 without knowing about any of Yuta's abilities
Yuta can endure barrages of attacks stronger than himself just fine
Kaneki simply becomes stronger from attacks as he reaches level 7-A.and kaneki would spam allat how and why?
all Rika needs is to stop initial barrage, even if you're so sceptical of Yuta simply doing a hand sign or even just saying a word
But anyway yes actually, Rika can get gigantic
Or even better she can straight be used as a room
Yes, regen neg is a consequence of his kagune attacks
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But speed is equal? and Yuji and Yuta would also have higher reaction speed here
If they open domain he wont have time, if they notice an already stronger opponent start growing even stronger they make Yuji spam soul dismantles to end it via CS, Rika acting as a shield, while Kaneki will be attacked by things like Sky Manipulation as a sure hit
Or worse Yuji's domain is open and Kaneki has no way to avoid soul dismantles
Not to mention Kaneki would also be slowly getting weakened by CE passives
Okay so if he hits one of them with Kagune, let's say breaks out of Yuta's domain somehow, he'll have to deak with Yuji's domain right after, which he has no counter for
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Yuta and Yuji have Supersonic+ combat and reaction speed, while Kaneki's kagune's reaction and attack speed are higher than his combat speed + accelerated perception + kakuja blitz amp. Kaneki has a strong advantage.
DE isn't a starting move, and they could very well be dead by the time they decide to use it.
How does Yuji's technique work against those much stronger than him? If Yuji hits a 5-B character with his technique without resistance, will it be as traumatic for the soul as if he did it to a character of his own level?
He just lets them get closer and kills them with a shockwave.
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I just want to add that while I don't plan on changing my vote, I don't think Kaneki can do anything if Yuji opens his domain. He'd be getting cut by thousands of soul slashes a second. Which would probs just insta kill him. But even if it didn't, every single one would weaken him, and Yuji was able to weaken Mahito to 40% in a rather short exchange via soul strikes. Let alone thousands of soul slashes per second. His stats would be getting nuked and then he'd most likely just die due to lack of soul damage resistance. I don't think he'd get the chance to escape. In most other domains like Yuta's, I think he would. But not Yuji's.
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Default assumption is that soul damage would bylass physical dura
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Yuji's soul damage is not that effective
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It is effective. It's just not a one shot (This will be addressed in the jujutsu page, but basically every Sorcerer instinctively reinforces their soul with CE, which mitigates damage and manipulation over it unless the person's soul attack are potent enough
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Yuta and Yuji's reaction speed is mach 4.6 while their combat speed is mach 2.8 (so kaneki is equalized to mach 2.8), so they should be fine dealing with Kaneki's accelerated perception
It depends, does Kaneki himself go for quick kills or blitzes? Because either Yuta or Yuji can pop domain considering they should realize Kaneki is much stronger than them individually. Yuta's one of the first moves is domain when against someone stronger (ie Sukuna)
Yes Yuji can hit the soul of his opponent, or even enter their innate domain to deal direct soul damage, should work like any other soul hax, not to mention Kaneki isnt that much stronger anyway (outside of his RE)
They would understand that Kaneki is stronger from the first interactions as i said, they would have no reason to get closer, and inside of Yuji's domain he doesn't need to get closer as the sure hit would just spawn on Kaneki
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Yuta and Yuji's reaction speed is 1.64 times faster than their combat speed, while Kaneki's reaction speed and kagune attack speed, based on previous keys, is 2.63 times faster. Add to this the slow-mo perception and dual-layered blitz amp at the perception speed suppression level.
Given Kaneki's knowledge, he'll focus on Yuji first, using Blitz Amp, Kagune, and LS. With his tools, killing the enemy won't take long.
From what I've heard, soul damage depends on physical strength. If Kaneki is brought to level 7-A, Yuji's further soul attacks will be ineffective.
Kaneki uses blitz at the beginning of the fight.They would understand that Kaneki is stronger from the first interactions as i said, they would have no reason to get closer, and inside of Yuji's domain he doesn't need to get closer as the sure hit would just spawn on Kaneki
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Who told you that? lol
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it was ME
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About that part. Yuta would find out fast that Kaneki is stronger but has normal CE level, which would immediately prompt him to spam Cursed speech(that only has drawbacks against stronger "sorcerers").
There is nothing stopping him from laying back and just shouting "don't move", while Yuji is killing Kaneki
No? The verse is pretty clear that physical strength won't help against soul damage, only reinforcing soil with cursed energy helps
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You aren't Reverse Flash, bud
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I mean that is a wincon, but im sure Yuta would first thing use CS if he sees Yuji being targeted, like he did to save Yuji against Sukuna
Yuji, even if his regen is negated, has great stamina/endurance, so unless he outright kills him in that first blitz, Yuji can survive and open domain himself/yuta opens domain, Yuji can also re-attach lost limbs with blood manipulation if RCT isnt working
It doesn't
They survive via things mentioned or Rika holding Kaneki back, as even with superior LS he wouldnt be able to expect an invisible force dragging him back
Yes i agree, Yuta would for sure start spamming it if Yuji is being targeted and there's no drawback from it
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Kaneki still manages to avoid getting hit thanks to his better skills, accelerated perception, and blitz amp.
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Avoid getting hit by what exactly? Cursed speech or domain sure hit?
(Btw, I am leaning towards it being a stomp)
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Kakuja's blitz amp is qualitatively superior to the two-word blitz of perception, even taking into account the accelerated perception, plus Kakuja increases stats and perception as well. Yuta opens his mouth only for tentacles to crawl in.I mean that is a wincon, but im sure Yuta would first thing use CS if he sees Yuji being targeted, like he did to save Yuji against Sukuna
That's certainly cool, but the wounds from the kagune will be like Toji's wound from the purple one. Without the ability to regenerate, Yuji is left singing a requiem.Yuji, even if his regen is negated, has great stamina/endurance, so unless he outright kills him in that first blitz, Yuji can survive and open domain himself/yuta opens domain, Yuji can also re-attach lost limbs with blood manipulation if RCT isnt working
My bad. The translator misinterpreted the words of one of the guys above.
Kaneki is able to sense hostile intent and determine the enemy's position through his heightened senses and instinctive reaction, so he will avoid Rika.
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Quick question, if Yuji were to open a domain, can he exclude Yuta from the sure hit?
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Uhhh, dunno. But he could do what Mahito did and make his domain exclude Yuta and not let him in. His domain was huge which is smth average domain users can't do, so I imagine he'd be capable of that.
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