[3-0-0] Old protags - Joe Yabuki vs. D (Manga)

[Nonynho]

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[RM97]

Just gonna point out two things:
1) The manga is different from the novel and thus does not scale from the novel's feats and stuff, including the Noble Physiology Page.
2) Noble physiology and the other novel profiles are, in general, very outdated and messed up. I am in the process of revising the whole series and adding new characters.

 

[Nonynho]

Just gonna point out two things:
1) The manga is different from the novel and thus does not scale from the novel's feats and stuff, including the Noble Physiology Page.
2) Noble physiology and the other novel profiles are, in general, very outdated and messed up. I am in the process of revising the whole series and adding new characters.

Both were pointed out before, but since we're using the manga here, would you say this is unmatchable? pleasesayitsfinepleasesayitsfinepleasesayitsfine

 

[RM97]

Both were pointed out before, but since we're using the manga here, would you say this is unmatchable? pleasesayitsfinepleasesayitsfinepleasesayitsfine

The manga page also looks very outdated, granted that it's been a long while since I read the manga. For example, D's regen should be high because he can heal from his own attack, which can negate the high-level regen of Garou and Count Lee. He will have passive aura and eye contact based hypnotism. Plus, he should have accelerated development bc vampires get progressively stronger, and a bunch of other things because of the powers in his other keys were always with him to begin with. So, as it stands now, you can close this because this is an outdated profile vs matchup.

 

[Nonynho]

The manga page also looks very outdated, granted that it's been a long while since I read the manga. For example, D's regen should be high because he can heal from his own attack, which can negate the high-level regen of Garou and Count Lee. He will have passive aura and eye contact based hypnotism. Plus, he should have accelerated development bc vampires get progressively stronger, and a bunch of other things because of the powers in his other keys were always with him to begin with. So, as it stands now, you can close this because this is an outdated profile vs matchup.

From all what you pointed out, seems like they could match each other, if there are no other problems.

Would there be other significant differences, or may i argument against the ones you pointed out?

 

[RM97]

From all what you pointed out, seems like they could match each other, if there are no other problems.

Would there be other significant differences, or may i argument against the ones you pointed out?

Until I or someone actually fixes the profile, it'll be hard to argue anything, at least for me because I dont remember much from the manga. But what does Joe have that can put down D or incap him at least?

 

[Nonynho]

But what does Joe have that can put down D or incap him at least?

-The willpower is good enough to deal easily with the hypnosis, while from all i see, D would fall victim to his passive fear manip/intimidation
-Joe's adaptation/technique mimicry/growing-mid-fight-stuff is crazy good, and as that is his main thing, one would be inclined to think it's greater than D's unless there are that many feats
-Attack Reflection, Damage Reduction and Damage Boost are a thing here, and with an initially 5.5x higher AP, D can and will get hurt by attacks (with the perception manip things can get even more dangerous, if D doesn't resist it too)
-Precog, Instinctive Action, Supernatural willpower with Pain and Analytical Prediction resistances makes him incredibly hard to actually put down, so he'll perseverate way too long with his combo

Meaning despite Joe not being able to permanently or temporarily kill D, he for sure has what it takes to incap him

And all of this was already accounted for, meaning if this match could continue, we wouldn't even need to recount the votes

 

[RM97]

Willpower is useless since many humans like Doris Lang have Supernatural Willpower, and they, too, get hypnotized and mind-haxed by Vampires.
Passive fear manip/intimidation is a non-factor given all vampires have fear and paralysis aura, and even they cannot affect each other with it (let alone affect D), but D's own passive fear and paralysis affects them, so it's a layered Passive Fear hax for D which Joe has no counter to.
Attack Reflection, Damage Reduction, and Damage Boost are also pretty useless when D himself has Attack Reflection on top, becoming intangible. Plus D can attack on a metaphysical level, which Joe has no counter to.
The rest I cannot at all comment on because I don't remember the manga feats well. I'm just going by memory, and I could be mixing novel feats from Vol 1-3 with manga Vol 1-3. So that's all there is.

 

[Nonynho]

The rest I cannot at all comment on because I don't remember the manga feats well. I'm just going by memory, and I could be mixing novel feats from Vol 1-3 with manga Vol 1-3. So that's all there is.

Yeah, with this comment together with layer claims i think we can halt this until the profile gets reformed

ty for your time