Metal Sonic (Games) vs Sosuke Aizen: [2-0-0]

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Technically the realms have seperate space-times, so yes

I feel like that's a bit of a stretch to say it work on an entirely separate timeline. Those are usually far more complex in terms of travel capabilities. Even if he can, once Neo Metal has his stuff copied then I don't think Aizen will be able to outsmart Neo into falling for any hax traps since Neo has shown the ability to copy a target's intelligence like when he copied Eggman's. Also also potentially copying the Hogyoku while spamming his own copied Kyoka Suigetsu on Aizen who doesn't resist his own power.

 

[Doggo]

I feel like that's a bit of a stretch to say it work on an entirely separate timeline. Those are usually far more complex in terms of travel capabilities. Even if he can, once Neo Metal has his stuff copied then I don't think Aizen will be able to outsmart Neo into falling for any hax traps since Neo has shown the ability to copy a target's intelligence like when he copied Eggman's. Also also potentially copying the Hogyoku while spamming his own copied Kyoka Suigetsu on Aizen who doesn't resist his own power.

Then Metal wins via KS incap or bfr then. Heck given the initial ap gap, he might actually just start with bfr and be done with it.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Then Metal wins via KS incap or bfr then. Heck given the initial ap gap, he might actually just start with bfr and be done with it.

I think he would definitely save BFR as a last resort, Neo Metal wants as much power as possible and seeing this absolutely unique specimen of an opponent with all this brand new data to copy would have him be absolutely fiending over it so he can use it to kick Sonic's ass later.

 

[Doggo]

I think he would definitely save BFR as a last resort, Neo Metal wants as much power as possible and seeing this absolutely unique specimen of an opponent with all this brand new data to copy would have him be absolutely fiending over it so he can use it to kick Sonic's ass later.

I won't be shocked if this ends up biting him in the ass but oh well

Metal FRA

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I won't be shocked if this ends up biting him in the ass but oh well

Metal FRA

Honestly yeah, that sounds pretty in-character for how Sega would probably write this fight. Vote counted.

 

[Apotheosis69]

I thought Aizen had Mid-Godly?

Well, there is the Removal Thread for Bleach's Existence Erasure... Which STILL needs Staff... someone please contact them on their page...

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Señor Starfish-Head FRA

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[ItsMeat]

How is this still going

Anyway, thanks to this recently accepted crt(the safwy part was already accepted and applied), Metal Sonic shouldn't be able to copy Aizen's hax anymore.

Let's throw this thread into chaos, huh

 

[Nonynho]

So not only did he cheat on Naruto by marrying Sakura, but he also cheated on both by having yaoi with a villain from another dimension (and Madara's most popular matchup)?!?!?

now that is something i'd like to read in Spirit Fanfiction when i was 15 lmfao

Aizen and MSonic will be adapting to each other until eternity, now that they can't both finish each other ig?
Seems reasonable to me to vote Incon FRA

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

How is this still going

Anyway, thanks to this recently accepted crt(the safwy part was already accepted and applied), Metal Sonic shouldn't be able to copy Aizen's hax anymore.

Let's throw this thread into chaos, huh

why is it a limited resistance and not a full on resistance then? If anything that just makes me think Metal's will eventually overcome the resistance because he can copy things infinitely greater in scale than Aizen or the Hogyoku since he copied Chaos. Even if he can't for whatever reason, the wincon of just constantly growing in power to match Aizen's transformations and BFRing him is still valid.

 

[ItsMeat]

why is it a limited resistance and not a full on resistance then? If anything that just makes me think Metal's will eventually overcome the resistance because he can copy things infinitely greater in scale than Aizen or the Hogyoku since he copied Chaos. Even if he can't for whatever reason, the wincon of just constantly growing in power to match Aizen's transformations and BFRing him is still valid.

Limited is because only hogyoku has resistance to power mimicry and unconventional is because you need the hogyoku to copy his powers. Basically he has resistance to power mimicry and you need the hogyoku before being able to replicate his powers.

Constant evolution and adaptation for both is valid for a stalemate, but bfr shouldn't work because aizen has dimensional travel

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Limited is because only hogyoku has resistance to power mimicry and unconventional is because you need the hogyoku to copy his powers. Basically he has resistance to power mimicry and you need the hogyoku before being able to replicate his powers.

Constant evolution and adaptation for both is valid for a stalemate, but bfr shouldn't work because aizen has dimensional travel

Dimensional Travel is not saving his ass from being yeeted to a completely separate timeline altogether like what happened in Rivals.

 

[ItsMeat]

Dimensional Travel is not saving his ass from being yeeted to a completely separate timeline altogether like what happened in Rivals.

Unfortunately, idk most of the Sonic media, including Rivals

I mean, he lowkey has resistance to smth similar on his profile, although the text says point in time, the scan says time axis. Take that as you want, though I am pretty sure hogyoku would make him adapt to this asw regardless.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Unfortunately, idk most of the Sonic media, including Rivals

I mean, he lowkey has resistance to smth similar on his profile, although the text says point in time, the scan says time axis. Take that as you want, though I am pretty sure hogyoku would make him adapt to this asw regardless.

Unless Aizen or the Hogyoku have feats of him traversing through completely separate timelines then he ain't getting around Metal Sonic just BFR'ing him after getting annoyed that he won't die in case Metal's copy power really doesn't work even though it has better copy feats on a much higher scale.

 

[ItsMeat]

Unless Aizen or the Hogyoku have feats of him traversing through completely separate timelines then he ain't getting around Metal Sonic just BFR'ing him after getting annoyed that he won't die in case Metal's copy power really doesn't work even though it has better copy feats on a much higher scale.

Tbf, all of the main bleach dimensions(soul society, wotl, hueco mundo, dangai, garganta) are different space times with their own timelines and even fodders casually travel between them.

From where i stand, i see this as a battle of adaptation, the only difference being that Aizen's is done via a reality warping device that grants his desires but also instinctively acts to protect him…

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I mean, all of the main bleach dimensions(soul society, wotl, hueco mundo, dangai, garganta) are different space times with their own timelines and even fodders casually travel between them.

Prove they're all separate timelines and not the same one when Yhwach kind of ***** on that idea entirely.

From where i stand, i see this as a battle of adaptation, the only difference being that Aizen's is done via a reality warping device that grants his desires but also instinctively acts to protect him…

And Metal's power growth is significantly greater because Aizen caps out at 3-B where as Sonic's AD he copied caps out far above that if he's pushed hard enough. There's also the possibility that Metal grows to the point of damaging Aizen as badly as Mugetsu did and causing Aizen to nerf himself. If that happens and then Metal yoinks the Hogyoku then I don't see what's stopping Metal for trying to claim it himself or just copying the damn Hogyoku instead of trying to copy Aizen.

 

[ItsMeat]

Prove they're all separate timelines and not the same one when Yhwach kind of ***** on that idea entirely.

Most profiles are just outdated, a lot of revisions will come with cour 4, including actually scaling people to the realms, anyway, check Ichibe's profile, the realms are accepted as different stcs, Ichibe's ichimonji range being Low Multi.

And Metal's power growth is significantly greater because Aizen caps out at 3-B where as Sonic's AD he copied caps out far above that if he's pushed hard enough.

Isn't that only via power mimicry from what i gather from his profile. Also, strange, but i see no adaptation for neo key.

There's also the possibility that Metal grows to the point of damaging Aizen as badly as Mugetsu did and causing Aizen to nerf himself.

This is just missinformation ig. Aizen started wishing to lose his powers because ichigo lost his powers after mugetsu and aizen was alone at the pinnacle of the world once again.

If that happens and then Metal yoinks the Hogyoku then I don't see what's stopping Metal for trying to claim it himself

Hogyoku's continued recognition of Aizen alone as its master ig. Even if taken from him, Hogyoku belongs to him and will return to him via its own will. It kept aizen immortal even when he lost his powers, for example.

or just copying the damn Hogyoku instead of trying to copy Aizen.

Well, if he can physically reproduce the Hogyoku for himself while stripping it of its memories of Aizen as its master, sure.

Also, does he have anything to survive Kurohitsugi atomizing him? As far as I gather from his profile, his regen isn't enough to regenerate from atomization

 

[LaserPrecision]

Why are people talking about Timelines for Metal Sonic's BFR? He can BFR up to 6D range via the Emeralds IIRC.

 

[Qawsedf234]

This is Neo Metal Sonic from Sonic Heroes and Aizen's first key being used at the start though Metal Overlord is restricted for obvious reasons, speed is equalized, the fight takes place on top of the Egg Fleet and both sides are in-character.

AP

• Neo Metal Sonic: Greater than 240 Foe
• Aizen: 1.1683 Zettatons to 20.08 TeraFoe

Aizen is either 4.9 Quadrillion times weaker than Metal Sonic or 83.6 Billion times stronger than Metal Sonic.

I don't know which end the OP is using, but the AP gap is so colossal that, in either scenario, one person one-shots the other.

Lifting Strength

• Neo Metal Sonic: Greater than 4.4 Gigagrams
• Aizen: Greater than 1.2 Teragrams

Aizen is 272 times stronger than Metal Sonic

Durability
Like AP, in either scenario one of the combatants will physically one-shot the other

Neo-Metal Sonic's powers

• Superhuman Physical Characteristics: He has claws, which are useless in either scenario presented
• Small Size: A negative, as Aizen has an instinctive hatred for short people
• Combat Skills: The page gives no details on what this means. Looking at the intelligence page he's listed as a Genius for fighting... Extraordinary Geniuses?? Like I'm not exactly sure what he can do since he loses to Sonic who has much more examples of skill showings
• Power Mimicry: Considering he can copy data from characters that are Low 1-C, my assumption is that he'd be able to copy Aizen's powers. Having said that the page does not list how long it takes him to do this. Just doing my own reading the later versions can seemingly do this decently fast but watching Sonic Hero cutscenes he requires time to analyze people throughout Eggman's boss fight to copy data. So honestly, it feels like the battle would be over before this would be relevant. Since Metal can copy robots, presumably, he can also copy other non-organics like ghosts
• Regeneration: Pretty good, Aizen would need to use a Kido to kill him... wait this still does not matter because the fight ends in a one shot

Aizen's powers

• Invisibility: Metal Sonic has no listed sensors that would let him see through this
• Combat Skills: Aizen scales vastly above Captains who have centuries of experience. Having said that Sonic also clowns on people with that level of combat, Metal can fight Sonic... but also loses to Sonic. So I'm not sure now if either have an edge here
• Aizen is smarter than Metal Sonic
• Metal Sonic has no soul or organic senses, rendering him immune to most of Aizen's sensory powers
• Metal Sonic has no way to get past Aizen's regeneration without Copying his data

Ultimately, this is on the OP. I think if we're using 4-A Aizen he just one-shots before Metal can adapt. If Metal is 4-B and Aizen is Low 5-B, he just gets one shot and before he gets resurrected, he gets copied and then obliterated by his own techniques.

So neutral until the OP defines what's going on.

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Isn't that only via power mimicry from what i gather from his profile. Also, strange, but i see no adaptation for neo key.

I don't know which end the OP is using, but the AP gap is so colossal that, in either scenario, one person one-shots the other.

Metal has the biodata of a buncha dudes in this key listed on his page, including Sonic and his AD. Metal is closing that gap near instantly, given Sonic can close the gap between his 4-B and 3-C keys to fight Ultimate Emerl, or his Classic self being able to jump from tier 5 to 2-C in Gens and Forces, being able to one-shot a Chaos clone right after appearing in the latter game. Though it'll only make him relative, it won't spike him beyond


This was brought up in the prior page

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Why are people talking about Timelines for Metal Sonic's BFR? He can BFR up to 6D range via the Emeralds IIRC.

That works too. Aizen ain't coming back from that.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Metal is closing that gap near instantly, given Sonic can close the gap between his 4-B and 3-C keys to fight Ultimate Emerl,

That Sonic is multiple keys and power ups stronger than the one Metal copied though. The fact he requires to copy them later to match power boosts indicates he doesn't have some infinite growth potential.

given Sonic can close the gap between his 4-B and 3-C keys to fight Ultimate Emerl

Like before, you're comparing a stronger Sonic to a weaker Metal Sonic.

being able to jump from tier 5 to 2-C in Gens and Forces, being able to one-shot a Chaos clone right after appearing in the latter game. Though it'll only make him relative, it won't spike him beyond

The Classic Sonic has a different key and the profiles do not treat them as being retroactive. The AD of a Sonic that Metal hasn't copied doesn't apply to this fight.

You'd have to show pre-Heroes Sonic's AD and then show how quickly Metal himself can copy bio-data for this incarnation in my view.

 

[LaserPrecision]

The Classic Sonic has a different key and the profiles do not treat them as being retroactive. The AD of a Sonic that Metal hasn't copied doesn't apply to this fight.

That key was made to account for Classic Sonic AD'ing to that level. It's even listed on Classic Sonic's profile under AD that he went from 5-A or whatever to 2-C instantly.

 

[TauanVictor]

In Bleach, all things have souls. Idk if that's relevant here, but we'd have to see how verse equalization would apply.

 

[Omegabronic]

In Bleach, all things have souls. Idk if that's relevant here, but we'd have to see how verse equalization would apply.

I mean... Metal isn't from bleach, so that wouldn't matter

+ he has Sonic's and Shadow's Biodata copied, so he would resist Soul Manip and Erasure

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

+ he has Sonic's and Shadow's Biodata copied, so he would resist Soul Manip and Erasure

Adventure Era Shadow doesn't have any soul resistance

 

[Qawsedf234]

In Bleach, all things have souls. Idk if that's relevant here, but we'd have to see how verse equalization would apply.

Verse equalization means that stuff like power absorption would work for everything, but Metal would not be subject to Bleach's unique exotic matter principals. So he'd have no soul unless the Sonic franchise gives robots souls.

Having said that, afaik it does mean the environment they're in for the fight would indeed contain Bleach's souls. But not Metal in particular.

 

[Omegabronic]

Adventure Era Shadow doesn't have any soul resistance

oh, i forgot it was adventure era lol