Battle of Earth manipulators: Zhongli (Genshin Impact) vs. Diane (Nanatsu no Taizai)

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The battle takes place in the Guili Plains, with speed equalized, starting 30 meters apart. Adeptus Zhongli and Pre-Training Diane with Gidion are being used. SBA for everything else.

Zhongli AP: 8.5 Gigatons

Zhongli LS: Class M, Class G with Earth Manipulation

Diane AP: 3.315 Gigatons, 16.575 Gigatons with Gidion

Diane LS: Class P (3.88228106e16 N)

AP difference: 2.5x difference in Zhongli's favor, 2.07x difference in Diane's favor with Gidion

Lord of Geo: 0



Serpent Sin: 0


Toph mogs both (incon): 0

 

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[Makai641001]

The battle takes place in the Guili Plains, with speed equalized, starting 30 meters apart. Adeptus Zhongli and Pre-Training Diane with Gidion are being used. SBA for everything else.

Zhongli AP: 8.5 Gigatons

Zhongli LS: Class 5, Class G with Earth Manipulation

Diane AP: 3.315 Gigatons, 16.575 Gigatons with Gidion

Diane LS: Class P (3.88228106e16 N)

AP difference: 2.5x difference in Zhongli's favor, 2.07x difference in Diane's favor with Gidion

Lord of Geo: 0



Serpent Sin: 0


Toph mogs both (incon): 0

What can he do in this matchup ?

She has better abilities, a large AP gap that’s even worse using her friends ability and a LS gap even bigger

 

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What can he do in this matchup ?

She has better abilities, a large AP gap that’s even worse using her friends ability and a LS gap even bigger

Zhongli would have the battle experience here due to being 6,000 years old and having killed/sealed away gods during the Archon War.

As for what he can do, he could seal away Diane like he did with Osail by pinning and sealing away beneath with massive stone spears that formed Guyun Stone Forest or like what he did to Azhdaha by sealing him away beneath the Chasm.

Zhongli is also capable of creating constructs out of the earth (referring to Fillet and Loin) but unlike Diane his constructs are alive. He could even turn Diane into stone as he did to the dragon Chi.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

matchup is going to be outdated anyone zhongli about to become tier 5 .

 

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matchup is going to be outdated anyone zhongli about to become tier 5 .

Man, I always end up making matches when some type of thing is about to change that makes it void

 

[Makai641001]

Zhongli would have the battle experience here due to being 6,000 years old and having killed/sealed away gods during the Archon War.

Both are thousands of years old Warriors it holds no weight

As for what he can do, he could seal away Diane like he did with Osail by pinning and sealing away beneath with massive stone spears that formed Guyun Stone Forest or like what he did to Azhdaha by sealing him away beneath the Chasm.

how does This mechanism work

Zhongli is also capable of creating constructs out of the earth (referring to Fillet and Loin) but unlike Diane his constructs are alive. He could even turn Diane into stone as he did to the dragon Chi.

Same question

 

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Both are thousands of years old Warriors it holds no weight

Diane is only approx. 750 years old, she's definitely not in the thousands from what I've read and seen so far.

how does This mechanism work

He uses geo constructs to form a barrier. Here's an example of Azhdaha's and Osial was directly stated to be pinned down by the spears.

Same question

This hasn't been shown in game, but mostly described through the lore which is cannon and through this story quest teaser.

 

[Makai641001]

Diane is only approx. 750 years old, she's definitely not in the thousands from what I've read and seen so far.

Yeah mb no signifiant experience gap still

He uses geo constructs to form a barrier. Here's an example of Azhdaha's and Osial was directly stated to be pinned down by the spears.

Pinned down by someone hundreds of thousands of times weaker with an element she controls better than him with more range and Power ???

This hasn't been shown in game, but mostly described through the lore which is cannon and through this story quest teaser.

Diane’s construct can be stronger than herself is it the case for him ?

Petrification wouldn’t work she can change the composition of her body instantly.

 

[Bossbrosish]

Yeah mb no signifiant experience gap still

I'm pretty sure there's a massive skill gap here. Zhongli was able to spar against Zibai when she was an Angel and she is likely way older than he was at the time.and Zhongli was considered a god of war. This is someone who's been around for 6,000 years against someone who's been around for 750.

Pinned down by someone hundreds of thousands of times weaker with an element she controls better than him with more range and Power ???

I don't think she'd be better at controlling the earth than he is. Diane is good in her own right, but I don't see her making barriers or giant meteors with her earth manipulation.

Diane’s construct can be stronger than herself is it the case for him ?

Petrification wouldn’t work she can change the composition of her body instantly.

I think they're comparable to he is but he has empowerment, durability and resistance negation, and statistics amplification. I'm not sure about the petrification since Zhongli could just separate her soul and seal it away.

 

[Makai641001]

I'm pretty sure there's a massive skill gap here. Zhongli was able to spar against Zibai when she was an Angel and she is likely way older than he was at the time.and Zhongli was considered a god of war. This is someone who's been around for 6,000 years against someone who's been around for 750.

Skills are not about age (Lancelot is a good example)

I don't think she'd be better at controlling the earth than he is. Diane is good in her own right, but I don't see her making barriers or giant meteors with her earth manipulation.

She did in the first 50 chapters to casually one shot Link, also that would be range not a skill feat.

She can magically infuse earth to make super soldiers that can litteraly one tap him and can visibly manipulate larger amounts of rocks (Class P)

I think they're comparable to he is but he has empowerment, durability and resistance negation, and statistics amplification. I'm not sure about the petrification since Zhongli could just separate her soul and seal it away.

How does his soûl manip work ? Is it in character for him to use it as a first move ?

She has a huge speed/power gap with DD

Durability and resistance negation doesn’t matter she is a massive tank and doesn’t even need to Null his durability in order to one tap him ngl.
+ it’s limited to 20% with an item, or even worse a « possibly » rating based on an hyperbolic statement and 0 feats.

Diane was pierced multiple times and always survived despite vital organs being severely damaged.

 

[Bossbrosish]

Skills are not about age (Lancelot is a good example)

I guess, but Zhongli would be the wiser and more cautious one.

Durability and resistance negation doesn’t matter she is a massive tank and doesn’t even need to Null his durability in order to one tap him ngl.

It doesn't matter if she's a massive tank (who still gets massively hurt my attacks in the story, she's not immune to taking damage despite her size). How exactly is she going to null his durability? Diane doesn't have any dura neg attacks and she's not going to one-tap in any way unless she uses her friends ability, but that would require her to be pushed to using it.

How does his soûl manip work ? Is it in character for him to use it as a first move ?

She has a huge speed/power gap with DD

I have no clue what move you're referring too with DD, but Diane doesn't have any moves that massively increase her speed from what I've seen. Power sure, speed wise no.

As for the soul manip, it's not in character for him to use it, but only if the person is a massive threat. He uses it against Chi by slaying the dragon in battle and essentially shattering its body and sealing them away through Geo constructs or adeptal seals

+ it’s limited to 20% with an item, or even worse a « possibly » rating based on an hyperbolic statement and 0 feats.

It's not with an item, its the shield he manifests around him that causes and that shield has been shown in game.

 

[Makai641001]

I guess, but Zhongli would be the wiser and more cautious one.

Not enough

It doesn't matter if she's a massive tank (who still gets massively hurt my attacks in the story, she's not immune to taking damage despite her size).

And is unphased by massive holes and organ failure

How exactly is she going to null his durability?

She doesn’t need to, but LS gap will one shot

Diane doesn't have any dura neg attacks and she's not going to one-tap in any way unless she uses her friends ability, but that would require her to be pushed to using it.

Which she did against Gloxinia in character lol (which is the key we use)

I have no clue what move you're referring too with DD, but Diane doesn't have any moves that massively increase her speed from what I've seen. Power sure, speed wise no.

Drôle dance increase the strength stat massively (Which is tied to speed)

As for the soul manip, it's not in character for him to use it, but only if the person is a massive threat. He uses it against Chi by slaying the dragon in battle and essentially shattering its body and sealing them away through Geo constructs or adeptal seals

Ok not a threat

It's not with an item, its the shield he manifests around him that causes and that shield has been shown in game.

Ok

 

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Which she did against Gloxinia in character lol (which is the key we use)

Bruh what? Drole's Dance is something she learns after her training, it's even said so I'm her keys. Sure she attempts it after learning about it from Matrona but she utterly fails at it and doesn't understand the dance or what it means. It wasn't until she was trained by Drole that she fully masters it when sent into the past as Drole.

 

[Makai641001]

Bruh what? Drole's Dance is something she learns after her training, it's even said so I'm her keys. Sure she attempts it after learning about it from Matrona but she utterly fails at it and doesn't understand the dance or what it means. It wasn't until she was trained by Drole that she fully masters it when sent into the past as Drole.

Mb gang I was confused by the keys the profiles are so incomplete

 

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Mb gang I was confused by the keys the profiles are so incomplete

Yeah, I do agree with that. Since I'm reading through it it feels like some characters are missing abilities. (Diane's P&A aren't even split to differentiate what she has pre and post training, they're all slapped together)

 

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[speedster352]

Yeah, I do agree with that. Since I'm reading through it it feels like some characters are missing abilities. (Diane's P&A aren't even split to differentiate what she has pre and post training, they're all slapped together)

I agree the seven deadly sins profiles need a revamp. Are the arguments still the same? What are the win cons for both characters?

 

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I agree the seven deadly sins profiles need a revamp. Are the arguments still the same? What are the win cons for both characters?

For Zhongli he has his sealing and the battle experience and for Diane has the LS advantage and the better durability from what I recall. Going to try to get some more Genshin members to comment though who're more knowledgeable than me (I'm a casual player)

 

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