Playing God | Homelander VS Tighten

[AyOgUyS]

Yeah and he wasn't significantly stronger. They equally trade blows and clash repeatedly, it's painfully clear that they're comparable in stats.

hm ok...

Reaction speed at best gives you a short burst of speed at the moment of reaction

still very useful in a fight

So at best Hal is dodging one or two blows before he gets brutally beaten by John since he cannot keep up this speed beyond just that one or 2 dodges.

are you sure abt that? his reactions r literally 100+x faster and its not like he has 2 stamina

 

[DavidTPPM]

hm ok...

still very useful in a fight

If you can actually utilize it sure but Hal is a bum.

are you sure abt that?

Yes.

his reactions r literally 100+x faster and its not like he has 2 stamina

Yes but reaction speed is very restricted. Otherwise it'd be straight up combat speed.

 

[Bruhtelho]

i've changed the rules so that speed is unequal now, Tighten retains his 100x reaction speed but Homelander gains a 3x speed advantage in like everything else

 

[AyOgUyS]

If you can actually utilize it sure but Hal is a bum.

doesnt magically lower his reactions since he'll always be able to make a move before H*melander does

Yes but reaction speed is very restricted. Otherwise it'd be straight up combat speed.

still very useful

 

[Arkansalter2]

Tighten has the very very slight AP advantage to where it's near negligible while also sporting the LS advantage.
Skill I'll give to homelander. Tighten hasn't really gotten any half way decent combat training combared to Homelander.
Speed is close however, Tighten has higher reactions by a bunch, which may prove him being tagged difficult.
Hmmm this is tricky... very tricky. Both tank their value, both fly, both are legit dead on in terms of everything.
I'm extremely inclined to go inconclusive because I honestly see this going either way. Either..
A: Tighten doesn't get tagged too much via reactions and eventually puts homie down
or
B: Homelander gets pissed enough to pull through.
So I'll go with inconclusive because I don't really see a clear winner here. I may sway my vote but until then, I'm not budging.
Inconclusive.

 

[CBslayeR]

Who's heat vision is hotter (and can either tank the others) cause I don't see 100x reaction speed difference making that big of a difference due to how much shit Tighten gets tagged by due to incompetence

 

[Bruhtelho]

counted but i'd like to point out that I unequaled speed so Homelander is faster by 3x in every other way besides reaction speed.

 

[Bruhtelho]

Who's heat vision is hotter (and can either tank the others) cause I don't see 100x reaction speed difference making that big of a difference due to how much shit Tighten gets tagged by due to incompetence

Tighten doesn't have a stated value well Homelander has a value of 3,500 °C from burning Soldier Boy's skin and a resistance to Fire and High Temperatures

 

[ShionAH]

Homelander destroys, its surprising but he genuinely skill gaps Tighten

 

[DavidTPPM]

doesnt magically lower his reactions since he'll always be able to make a move before H*melander does

No, that would have to be combat speed. Reaction speed is just for short quick 1 movement reactive bursts so a combo of attacks can still overcome him

still very useful

If you're not a complete loser yeah, very. But Hal is unironically so bad at everything it's basically inconsequential to him.


Anyway voting Homelander FRA

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Voting Homelander FRA.
He’s basically around as skilled as an irl soldier. So he’s not untouchable to the average Joe (which tighten is skill wise) but he’s close enough in AP, has better heat vision and Tighten is honestly the type to job. He is impressively incompetent.
Tighten can still win if he grapples Homelander a single time though but I can see Homelander not letting that happen.

 

[IDK3465]

Homelander unironically having the skill advantage against someone is the funniest shit imaginable, but when you're dealing with a character who's canonically a pathetic incel loser who simply happens to have superpowers, Homie's "combat training" does actually kinda come in handy.
Also, the heat vision, that helps too ig

 

[ShionAH]

I personally think Homelanders skill is super underrated, he has shown really great hand to hand skills and is implied to be trained since birth but this site seems to hate that idea of him being skilled lol

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

put me up for the Homeland fra

 

[AyOgUyS]

No, that would have to be combat speed. Reaction speed is just for short quick 1 movement reactive bursts so a combo of attacks can still overcome him

But if they're basically even AP and dura wise, tighten still has the slight edge considering 100x is greater than 3x

If you're not a complete loser yeah, very. But Hal is unironically so bad at everything it's basically inconsequential to him.

As if H*melander isn't a loser as well

 

[DavidTPPM]

But if they're basically even AP and dura wise, tighten still has the slight edge considering 100x is greater than 3x

He has a slight one use edge that let's him dodge a single attack before getting brutally murdered 0-low diff to the point he poops himself in front of everyone and begs John to let him go.

As if H*melander isn't a loser as well

Ew. You're so unbelievable corny

 

[AyOgUyS]

He has a slight one use edge that let's him dodge a single attack before getting brutally murdered 0-low diff to the point he poops himself in front of everyone and begs John to let him go.

what? their stats are literally comparable like practically dead even, h*melander has 3x faster combat but tighten has 100x faster reactions, methinks its safe to say tighten isn't getting completely blitzed, he'll still be able to keep up and its not like he has 2 stamina

Ew. You're so unbelievable corny

Not an argument

 

[EnderLord8]

Dude, you guys are seriously underestimating the 100x reaction speed advantage, not to mention Class G vs. Class K. The moment Tighten realizes the difference in physical strength, he's going to abuse it like the bully he is. I'm voting for Tighten.

 

[AyOgUyS]

Dude, you guys are seriously underestimating the 100x reaction speed advantage, not to mention Class G vs. Class K. The moment Tighten realizes the difference in physical strength, he's going to abuse it like the bully he is. I'm voting for Tighten.

this guy spitting fax (if it wasn't obvious, I vote for tighten as well)

 

[DavidTPPM]

what? their stats are literally comparable like practically dead even, h*melander has 3x faster combat but tighten has 100x faster reactions, methinks its safe to say tighten isn't getting completely blitzed, he'll still be able to keep up and its not like he has 2 stamina

I'm not saying he's going to get blitzed in telling you he will get skill gapped.
A random loser nobody like Hal would get steamrolled by an average trained soldier even if he had a stat advantage and Homelander is both equal and far above an average soldier.

Hell like others mentioned if Homelander catches Hals punch once like he did against Butcher and SB Hal is going to shit himself and run away.

Not an argument

I wasn't making an argument I was calling you a cornball.

We already went over how pathetic Hal is as a fighter and how skilled John is, I really don't need to go over it all again.

this guy spitting fax (if it wasn't obvious, I vote for tighten as well)

To vote you have to make an actual argument for why they win. All you did so far was repeat how Hal has higher reaction speed but reaction speed won't let him land a single blow in John and the moment Hal realizes he can't outstat him he'll panic and run away.

 

[Robo432343]

i dont want to vote for tighten anymore because of @AyOgUyS but sadly tighten wins for these reasons i think

Homelander should be a better fighter up close, since he could throw hands with Soldier Boy who has actual military training and Billy Butcher at the same time.

Tighten is some random dude that has zero hand to hand combat training. The "training" Megamind gave him was for him getting used to his powers. Megamind himself has no real good combat feats and both are shown to be, well very goofy in their fighting styles, which are very ineffective.

However, it's not like Homelander skill stomps him. He's no better than real life trained soldiers, who can still be hit by normal people. But in this case, Tighten is stronger and crushes him with his LS. He'll have more confidence when he notices that Homelander is noticeably weaker than him and can overpower him with LS.

Homelander loves to grapple with people, so it won't take Tighten long to realize he can effortlessly overpower Homelander and just hold him down. The fight is basically over at that point and Homelander isn't good enough to take down Tighten before he realizes this, yes even despite how dumb he is.

Voting for Tighten here.

 

[AyOgUyS]

i dont want to vote for tighten anymore because of @AyOgUyS

this is clearly a boundless tighten upscale, he affected someone in real life

 

[AyOgUyS]

I'm not saying he's going to get blitzed in telling you he will get skill gapped.

Well skill doesn't matter when tighten's advantages are more impactful. AP and Dura are even. H*melander's got notably faster combat speeds but Tighten's higher reactions help get around that gap and he's got immensely higher LS as well

Hell like others mentioned if Homelander catches Hals punch once like he did against Butcher and SB Hal is going to shit himself and run away.

not when tighten has the physical advantage

To vote you have to make an actual argument for why they win.

I did...I've been arguing this whole time bruh

 

[AThe1412]

i dont want to vote for tighten anymore because of @AyOgUyS but sadly tighten wins for these reasons i think

Where did those reasons even come from? Also, what stops Homie from cutting through Tighten with heat vision when the latter decides to foolishly ignore his reaction speed advantage to close in for grapples where he can be more easily hit?

 

[DavidTPPM]

Well skill doesn't matter when tighten's advantages are more impactful.

They're not. They're not even close to as impactful.

AP and Dura are even. H*melander's got notably faster combat speeds but Tighten's higher reactions help get around that gap and he's got immensely higher LS as well

LS difference is irrelevant because Hal doesn't grapple. The guy probably doesn't even know what grappling is given his absurd lack of combat experience.

not when tighten has the physical advantage

He has LS advantage and no way of utilizing it. You're making it sound like Hal is a professionally trained BJJ when bro has the combat experience of a newborn baby that fell in its head.

I did...I've been arguing this whole time bruh

Please do direct me to where you made any argument for how Hal even touches Homelander

 

[Nonynho]

Oh s***, an actual Homelander reasonable W

Voting him, FRA

 

[M2u12]

Voting Homelander FRA

 

[AyOgUyS]

LS difference is irrelevant because Hal doesn't grapple. The guy probably doesn't even know what grappling is given his absurd lack of combat experience.

He has LS advantage and no way of utilizing it. You're making it sound like Hal is a professionally trained BJJ when bro has the combat experience of a newborn baby that fell in its head.

buddy anyone can grapple, you're acting like tighten just can't do anything at all

Please do direct me to where you made any argument for how Hal even touches Homelander

I'm too lazy to scroll up but the combat speed gap is only 3x, significant but not a blitz gap, and tighten's faster reactions will help bridge it. in addition, if he grabs H*melander even once he'll be able to Restrain him easily

 

[EnderLord8]

Not to mention that if Homelander wants to show off and grab Tighten once to establish his superiority, Tighten will realize the difference in strength between the two and see how physically weak Homelander is in LS.

 

[DavidTPPM]

buddy anyone can grapple,

Anyone can grapple in the same way anyone can kick. Just because he physically could grapple doesn't mean he knows how to actually efficiently do it or that he would even try to do so.

you're acting like tighten just can't do anything at all

Because he can't in combat? Again Hal is a bumass who's never actually been in a fight and even the sheer IDEA that someone might match him made the guy run away in fear.

And now you have him fighting someone equal who's known for intimidating people as well as gaps him in combat skill, and you expect him to start doing ******* BJJ moves on his ass?

I'm too lazy to scroll up but the combat speed gap is only 3x, significant but not a blitz gap,

3x is actually more than enough to blitz at close range and not even necessary because John absolutely diddles him in skill.

and tighten's faster reactions will help bridge it

They don't. For the last time, stop trying to make reaction speed equal combat speed. All his reaction speed does is let him dodge one or 2 blows before getting his ass beat.

in addition, if he grabs H*melander even once he'll be able to Restrain him easily

It's so funny to watch you come up with these crazy strategies about how Hal will grab and restrain anyone when in reality his first reaction to getting his punch blocked would be to run as far as he can while leaving a yellow trail behind him.

Not to mention that if Homelander wants to show off and grab Tighten once to establish his superiority, Tighten will realize the difference in strength between the two and see how physically weak Homelander is in LS.

Hal LITERALLY got grabbed by Megamind who was so much weaker his fists broke into pieces upon contact and you know what his reaction was?

Because it sure as hell wasn't "oh shit this guy is weak lemme pull out my secret bjj training".

 

[AyOgUyS]

Anyone can grapple in the same way anyone can kick. Just because he physically could grapple doesn't mean he knows how to actually efficiently do it or that he would even try to do so.

why wouldn't he? once the two get a hold of each other, the difference in LS is gonna go so great Tighten might legit accidentally rip H*melander's arms off without even trying considering AP & dura are basically equal

Because it sure as hell wasn't "oh shit this guy is weak lemme pull out my secret bjj training".

image doesn't load for me, my wifi is so buns

3x is actually more than enough to blitz at close range and not even necessary because John absolutely diddles him in skill.

They don't. For the last time, stop trying to make reaction speed equal combat speed. All his reaction speed does is let him dodge one or 2 blows before getting his ass beat.

the thing is: H*melander is gonna need to hit tighten over And over to win while just one grab from tighten might just rip H*melander in half

It's so funny to watch you come up with these crazy strategies about how Hal will grab and restrain anyone when in reality his first reaction to getting his punch blocked would be to run as far as he can while leaving a yellow trail behind him.

Thanks! I really appreciate it! I really try to keep myself as casual as I can in these versus debates and I'm glad to hear its working

 

[EnderLord8]

Hal LITERALLY got grabbed by Megamind who was so much weaker his fists broke into pieces upon contact and you know what his reaction was?

Because it sure as hell wasn't "oh shit this guy is weak lemme pull out my secret bjj training".

Well, Megamind wasn't able to hurt him either; he was scared and not actively being hurt. If Homelander starts hitting him hard enough to hurt him, his survival instincts will kick in and he'll try to break free to escape. It's at this moment that he realizes how weak Homelander is in LS, and then, with a new, somewhat vengeful wave of bullying, he becomes self-confident enough to abuse it.

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Homelander FRA

 

[Bruhtelho]

all votes counted, grace period has started for Homelander (I myself well also be voting Homelander FRA)

 

[CBslayeR]

HL FRA

 

[Jaynic1]

Voting homelander fra, always nice to see good ppl get wins.

 

[Knifeman29]

Tighten fra

That lifting strength gap is massive Homelander isn't overcoming that with skill. Also I could be misremembering but does homelander have any experience fighting while in flight?

 

[NikHelton]

Our Homie FRA

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

shouldn't ts be added now?

 

[AThe1412]

Well, Megamind wasn't able to hurt him either; he was scared and not actively being hurt. If Homelander starts hitting him hard enough to hurt him, his survival instincts will kick in and he'll try to break free to escape.

Break free of what? Getting punched and lasered?

It's at this moment that he realizes how weak Homelander is in LS, and then, with a new, somewhat vengeful wave of bullying, he becomes self-confident enough to abuse it.

Or, hear me out, John just melts a hole through his face before that can happen because he's 3 times faster in everything but reaction speed?

That lifting strength gap is massive Homelander isn't overcoming that with skill.

Assuming Tighten will exploit it before he gets murked instead of running away the moment he gets hurt.

Also I could be misremembering but does homelander have any experience fighting while in flight?

Kinda?