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Izuku Midoriya (Deku) Vs Son Goku (My Hero Academia Vs Dragon Ball) [11-1-0]

Doggo said:
Star Level Dannie vs LS meta Deku


uhh Deku FRA
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Unironically made in the context of Star Level Dan Heng.

Considering Deku couldn't scare away Oozaru Goku into retreating and could only incapacitate him by waiting for sun rise, LS choking him out, and hax him with Gearshift, it proves Dan Heng used raw strength in order to defeat his opponents in a single strike.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Unironically made in the context of Star Level Dan Heng.

Considering Deku couldn't scare away Oozaru Goku into retreating and could only incapacitate him by waiting for sun rise, LS choking him out, and hax him with Gearshift, it proves Dan Heng used raw strength in order to defeat his opponents in a single strike.
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bu..but its was off-screen, therefore invalid!
 
He has to choke him out while not getting hit by him in any way? No physical interaction or anything. Goku is strong enough to destroy anything from Deku with little movement here, no? How can Deku even do it? Can Deku continue using gearshift+fajin etc to dodge for several hours? He has a limit after all.

LS doesn't carry like that.

He has no preknowledge as well, he doesn't even know that he can just wait until sun rise.
 
MrTayman616 said:
He has to choke him out while not getting hit by him in any way? No physical interaction or anything
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His range is long enough to connect to the inner walls of Dark Might's ship which contains mountains and cities
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MrTayman616 said:
Can Deku continue using gearshift+fajin etc to dodge for several hours? He has a limit after all.
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Deku has no downsides from spamming Fa Jin. Goku shouldn't have time to react anyways due to amps. Deku also has another blitz amp with Overlay since it rivals a Gearshift boost.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
His range is long enough to connect to the inner walls of Dark Might's ship which contains mountains and cities
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Deku has no downsides from spamming Fa Jin. Goku shouldn't have time to react anyways due to amps. Deku also has another blitz amp with Overlay since it rivals a Gearshift boost.
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out of character for deku to just choke someone out from miles away. btw overlay should actually be a more reliable amp than gearshift, considering it has no recoil to bite him back. gearshift is the better option for freezing someone in place or ******* with them by accelerating them past their own perception.
 
LaserPrecision said:
Durability doesn't help against not being able to breathe.
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Deku can't put him in a situation like that. Any interaction is strong enough to one shot Deku and anything he has.

Just LS alone doesn't cover a gap that massive.
CastoriceTheFifth said:
His range is long enough to connect to the inner walls of Dark Might's ship which contains mountains and cities
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I was including this as well when i said "anything he has". They lack the durability to survive any type of movement of Goku.
 
I would like to note that durability does not matter at all when trying to choke someone out its purely LS and you can in fact crush a diamond if you have enough LS. Also still Deku has other options whether: Outlast Goku till the sun rise with Fa Jin & Overlay, Soul Punch him into oblivion, or throw him into space which wouldn't have the supposed durability problem that choking out would have.

Even though Goku js has a way to win by landing 1 attack Deku js has to many blitz amps + danger sense to avoid them and outlast him im sorry I js dont see a way for oozaru goku to win tis
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Thats what I've been saying. Doesn't he deadass just get knocked out cold anytime he reverts back from being a giant monkey when no moon
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While Goku did sleep until morning after his tail was cut off for the first time, he woke up before the announcer could finish the 10 second countdown after reverting the second time.
 
Excellence616 said:
His skin would be hard to choke right?
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No? That's not how durability works. Their neck/throat doesn't have the LS to stay open against a stronger LS. It's the same way Goku couldn't beat Deku in arm-wrestling despite having higher AP. Goku's throat would close up and he would suffocate.
MrTayman616 said:
Deku can't put him in a situation like that. Any interaction is strong enough to one shot Deku and anything he has.

Just LS alone doesn't cover a gap that massive.
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Deku has the range to use Black Whip from at most Kilometers away. He could easily make Black Whip tens of meters long to choke Goku out from a distance. And with speed amps, analytical prediction, danger sense, and skill, he's not getting tagged from an animalistic Goku any time soon.
 
I feel like people are also forgetting that Deku is like 100x intelligent than Great Ape Goku which would also give him a huge skill advantage, Goku is incredibly predictable in that state esp for someone like Deku who's seen Giant Villains in MHA constantly. yes, Goku has a monstrous AP and Dura advantage but his intelligence is such a hindrance here due to Deku's numerous ways to predict his opponents (Analytical prediction + Danger Sense). its directly said in his weaknesses "as a Great Ape, he becomes an animalistic berserker with no control over himself." so Skill, Speed, and other things means dodging is gonna be no problem

Deku's blackwhip is also 100% a wincon here, it can extend more than far enough to wrap around Goku who lacks the LS to escape so once any of his limbs are bound, he isn't breaking free from them. someone as smart as Deku can do that in a matter of seconds with how fast he can analyze an environment and opponent.

Deku isn't stupid enough to just try to get into CQC against someone as big and threatening as Great Ape, other instances of similar events have caused his danger sense to go nuts like with Gigantomachia or Shigaraki awakening with AFO, he'll note that "this guy is likely really strong" and opt to dodge through skill, his superior mobility, analytical prediction + danger sense well using Blackwhip to bind his limbs as he was doing against Shigaraki, quickly ending the match through binding or just playing it safe and dodging till Goku transforms back into his human form, something more than possible for Deku who can go weeks to months without rest.

The world's greatest hero FRA.
 
LaserPrecision said:
Deku has the range to use Black Whip from at most Kilometers away. He could easily make Black Whip tens of meters long to choke Goku out from a distance. And with speed amps, analytical prediction, danger sense, and skill, he's not getting tagged from an animalistic Goku any time soon.
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I didn't mean range wise.

Even a little movement of any kind or just anything from Goku here is enough to destroy the black whip. Just LS doesn't work because of the massive difference between it's durability and Goku's AP.
 
MrTayman616 said:
Even a little movement of any kind or just anything from Goku here is enough to destroy the black whip. Just LS doesn't work because of the massive difference between it's durability and Goku's AP.
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With the speed amps Goku wouldn't have the reaction speed to retaliate and attack Black Whip to break it. He'd be out before he could do anything.
 
MrTayman616 said:
Even a little movement of any kind or just anything from Goku here is enough to destroy the black whip. Just LS doesn't work because of the massive difference between it's durability and Goku's AP.
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thats not how LS works with AP. Goku would have to attack the blackwhip before it binds him down for it to break or use his spare hands to rip it off him, something he lacks the intelligence and speed to do, once its on his body, his movement would be completely restricted as long as Deku is pulling since its gripping strength and not physical strength plus with the range blackwhip has, Deku will do it in a matter of seconds. he likely wouldn't even register the blackwhip on him and continue just tryna punch or beam Deku down.
 
I would like to say, just for reference, the difference in lifting strength is around 384x greater than the difference in lifting strength between an Ant and the strongest human on earth (LS-wise). So just for a frame of reference imagine an ant trying to overpower you, but now you're somewhere around a thousand times stronger than usual.

That's what Goku has to deal with here.
 
i genuinely expected deku to get wiped here ngl but somehow we turned this into a deku solos

guess deku is the better ku
 
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