5-B Planet Tiersetter Tournament Semi Finals Match 2: Tien Shinhan vs Uzi Doorman (3-14-0) GRACE STARTED

[Niko]

forgot about this gimme a sec

Is there a source for the they cant spawn because theyre both solvers

Doll can't use her solver on Uzi.


Doll can't use her solver on Cyn.


Uzi can't use her solver on "Tessa".


Tessa was... CYN ALONG!!!

tessa being a human dosent really change much. In the clips ive seen with uzi so far its null throws, null throws and null throws or anything but the neck snap

Please read again.

 

[Kirua29]

even if she was still concious, she was bloodlusted which was the whole reason why she sawed the dude neck off

She’s more oil-lusted—jokes aside, the fact that she’s in a particular state doesn’t really change the fact that she’s usually the one who attacks first, and with a lethal move.

 

[Thunderman101]

She’s more oil-lusted—jokes aside, the fact that she’s in a particular state doesn’t really change the fact that she’s usually the one who attacks first, and with a lethal move.

and none of those lethal moves were making people explode

Doll can't use her solver on Cyn.


Uzi can't use her solver on "Tessa".


Tessa was... CYN ALONG!!!


Please read again.

im in school so half these videos dont work so ill just ake ur word for ti

 

[Thunderman101]

Doll blocks it because she has the same power as Uzi.

Furthermore, the power of the Uzi works by modifying the X,Y,Z angles, so this means that there is no resistance applied.It's not exactly telekinesis, it's more like a video game developer deciding to select an object and delete it, we understand this thanks to the Glitch Inn.





XD

she throws a knife and gets it blocked, she throws a very ordinary pen,

 

[Kirua29]

she throws a knife and gets it blocked, she throws a very ordinary pen,

No, it’s a pen made by JcJanson, and in our last debate I already explained that objects made by JcJanson are far more durable than normal ones. And i don’t see how that relates to what I said. And Doll blocked it with the solver once again.

 

[Soul80]

her being able to talk to someone while bloodlusted does not change the fact that she has only done this while bloodlusted

I kinda explained lol, in one of your examples

You see, drunk people still acting way more more different than their average state while Uzi still acting sane as her base form in berserk mode.

As I said, it's doesn't really affect her a basic intelligence, which means you cannot say that it's two different states of her mind anyway, not sure what you mean by "never done aging".

Neither does the fact that her biq changes and you spouting random fallacies wont change that

I didn't even say actually fallacies...

 

[Kirua29]

and none of those lethal moves were making people explode

No need, I've already explained that using the solver on a person ignores their durability because of the very concept of what the solver manipulates. I have a different approach from others; I don't rely solely on the option (exploded from within).

 

[Niko]

and none of those lethal moves were making people explode

im in school so half these videos dont work so ill just ake ur word for ti

idk if you can see the pics too so here ya go

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These are POVs of Doll (Red) and Uzi (Purple)

 

[Thunderman101]

I kinda explained lol, in one of your examples

As I said, it's doesn't really affect her a basic intelligence, which means you cannot say that it's two different states of her mind anyway, not sure what you mean by "never done aging".

I didn't even say actually fallacies...

false assumption is a fallacy, will respond to rest in a second

 

[Soul80]

false assumption is a fallacy, will respond to rest in a second

Ohhh
Well I didn't actually used a formal meaning of this, I just said that your assumptions is a false, that's it.

 

[Thunderman101]

No, it’s a pen made by JcJanson, and in our last debate I already explained that objects made by JcJanson are far more durable than normal ones. And i don’t see how that relates to what I said. And Doll blocked it with the solver once again.

oh no i didnt mean that by ordinary pen. I meant that even if uzi does go for lethal shots, none of them have shown to be the explode from the inside except for one very special instance

I kinda explained lol, in one of your examples

As I said, it's doesn't really affect her a basic intelligence, which means you cannot say that it's two different states of her mind anyway, not sure what you mean by "never done aging".

I didn't even say actually fallacies...

i meant never done again. Even if it dosent affect her iq, it affects her emotions and willingness to kill which is why she tried to explode that guy. Bloodlust

Anither thing, the solver failed to work on tessa right? Is there outside context to that because if uzi saw that the solver failed to work on the human tessa i dont see why shed think id work on the human tenshinhan

 

[RealDuker98]

even if she was still concious, she was bloodlusted which was the whole reason why she sawed the dude neck off

This is just wrong.

She always goes for lethal attacks.(Like Niko and Kirua said)

• Inserted a pen in J.
• Directly tried using the solver on Tessa
• Opened with a null against Cyn
• Twice
• Was going to use her solver on Cyn

 

[Thunderman101]

This is just wrong.

She always goes for lethal attacks.(Like Niko and Kirua said)

• Inserted a pen in J.
• Directly tried using the solver on Tessa
• Opened with a null against Cyn
• Twice
• Was going to use her solver on Cyn

thats not esxactly what i meant, going for lethal attacks in general and going for the specific lethal attack to kill your opponent is very different. Nulls, pens, are all very very dodgeable

 

[Niko]

i meant never done again. Even if it dosent affect her iq, it affects her emotions and willingness to kill which is why she tried to explode that guy. Bloodlust

I got a question, does this really matter? It's a tournament match up... A kill is a kill.

Anither thing, the solver failed to work on tessa right? Is there outside context to that because if uzi saw that the solver failed to work on the human tessa i dont see why shed think id work on the human tenshinhan

Tessa was dead all along, it was Cyn in disguise. Please read properly.

 

[Thunderman101]

I got a question, does this really matter? It's a tournament match up... A kill is a kill.

Tessa was dead all along, it was Cyn in disguise. Please read properly.

not my fault murder drones plot is so ******* incoherent its the whole reason i dropeed the show

I got a question, does this really matter? It's a tournament match up... A kill is a kill.

Tessa was dead all along, it was Cyn in disguise. Please read properly.

yes but having the means to go for the kill and actually going for the kill are different. from what ive seen she might just start with null

 

[ArrestedForRobbery]

oh yeah they both get prior knowledge. Dosent it just not work if uzi cant see it, feel like tenshinhan has etter travel speed

What exactly do you mean by "it"
Isn't travel speed also equalized or is that limited to the other types?

 

[Niko]

not my fault murder drones plot is so ******* incoherent its the whole reason i dropeed the show

=_=

yes but having the means to go for the kill and actually going for the kill are different. from what ive seen she might just start with null

Spawning a null in Tien's body? Yeah, if she doesn't start with that, she either starts with exploding his head, rotating his neck, or crush him flat like Doll did. But back to topic, I don't see Tien ever have time to beat Uzi, his casting speed which are Tri-Beam and Kamehameha take a few seconds to activate. It gives Uzi enough time to do anything to him. His best bet is to hope that he gets close for a close combat from a 4km distance.

 

[RealDuker98]

thats not esxactly what i meant, going for lethal attacks in general and going for the specific lethal attack to kill your opponent is very different. Nulls, pens, are all very very dodgeable

Because she can't do that to solver users.

As you can see, Solver abilities cannot directly be used on other solver drones(literally says "error: absoluteSolver_trn[like object npn-interactive]). This is the entire reason why Cyn just doesn't spawn her [NULL]s on Uzi, Nori, N, etc, because she literally can't.

Another instance of that

Secondly, you have tried arguing multiple times that Uzi doesn't go for the kill or that Uzi only went for insta kills when bloodlusted, which just simply isn't true.

And you've yet to give a wincon for Tien btw

 

[Thunderman101]

What exactly do you mean by "it"
Isn't travel speed also equalized or is that limited to the other types?

it i mean tenshinhan my bad. I dont think it was equalized??

=_=

Spawning a null in Tien's body? Yeah, if she doesn't start with that, she either starts with exploding his head, rotating his neck, or crush him flat like Doll did. But back to topic, I don't see Tien ever have time to beat Uzi, his casting speed which are Tri-Beam and Kamehameha take a few seconds to activate. It gives Uzi enough time to do anything to him.

I meant throwing a null. Also, tien also gets to see previous matches, remember. Hes a strategic fighter and if he sees people getting duranged one shot hes obviously gonna make sure that dosent happen. Either by getting out of her line of sight or something else. her range is pretty shit

 

[Soul80]

i meant never done again. Even if it dosent affect her iq, it affects her emotions and willingness to kill which is why she tried to explode that guy. Bloodlust

No, it wasn't about "emotions" in part why she exploded his head.
She went berserk because she began to starve from a lack of oil, that's why she started to killing them otherwise she will overheat like dissembly drones, she just acknowledge this moment from overheating after this, so she should understand the same things in this matchup

Anither thing, the solver failed to work on tessa right? Is there outside context to that because if uzi saw that the solver failed to work on the human tessa i dont see why shed think id work on the human tenshinhan

What ? You telling me that it shouldn't effect Tessa but not her parents?

 

[Thunderman101]

Because she can't do that to solver users.

As you can see, Solver abilities cannot directly be used on other solver drones(literally says "error: absoluteSolver_trn[like object npn-interactive]). This is the entire reason why Cyn just doesn't spawn her [NULL]s on Uzi, Nori, N, etc, because she literally can't.

Another instance of that

Secondly, you have tried arguing multiple times that Uzi doesn't go for the kill or that Uzi only went for insta kills when bloodlusted, which just simply isn't true.

And you've yet to give a wincon for Tien btw

im not that experienced on dragon bal, waiting for tien supporters. im not arguing uzi wont go for the kill, i arguing she wont go for the very convienient very specific means to defeat her opponent. How good is her range even. Her good good range on her pf is from her railgun and her throwing black holes

 

[Kirua29]

oh no i didnt mean that by ordinary pen. I meant that even if uzi does go for lethal shots, none of them have shown to be the explode from the inside except for one very special instance

Oh, okay, my bad—but in any case, it’s not really important to me whether she starts by making her opponent explode from the inside or not. No matter how she chooses to attack with her Solver, she’ll bypass his durability, unless she goes for close combat. But she relies heavily on her Solver, so I lean more toward her attacking with it—and if that’s the case, then Ten is just dead.

 

[Thunderman101]

No, it wasn't about "emotions" in part why she exploded his head.
She went berserk because she began to starve from a lack of oil, that's why she started to killing them otherwise she will overheat like dissembly drones, she just acknowledge this moment from overheating after this, so she should understand the same things in this matchup

What ? You telling me that it shouldn't effect Tessa but not her parents?

so she went crazy because she was hungry. im not explaining myself again on the whole human thing i was wrong about that anyways

 

[Thunderman101]

Oh, okay, my bad—but in any case, it’s not really important to me whether she starts by making her opponent explode from the inside or not. No matter how she chooses to attack with her Solver, she’ll bypass his durability, unless she goes for close combat. But she relies heavily on her Solver, so I lean more toward her attacking with it—and if that’s the case, then Ten is just dead.

her only range on her profile that could actually cover the 4km distance fast enough is her railgun and the nulls she has to physically throw

 

[Soul80]

so she went crazy because she was hungry. im not explaining myself again on the whole human thing i was wrong about that anyways

Yes and no, she also tried to survive from lack of oil, otherwise she will be overheated

 

[Kirua29]

I meant throwing a null. Also, tien also gets to see previous matches, remember. Hes a strategic fighter and if he sees people getting duranged one shot hes obviously gonna make sure that dosent happen. Either by getting out of her line of sight or something else. her range is pretty shit

The thing is, Uzi is also a martial arts specialist; remember, she learned martial arts by watching anime, so that shows her immense learning capacity.

 

[ArrestedForRobbery]

Yeah i think uzi realising the difference in their strength would be a good reason for her to start with her best shot

 

[Thunderman101]

Yeah i think uzi realising the difference in their strength would be a good reason for her to start with her best shot

range diff next

 

[Kirua29]

her only range on her profile that could actually cover the 4km distance fast enough is her railgun and the nulls she has to physically throw

But... I'm not talking about its range, but its ability to ignore durability, which isn't achieved solely through an internal explosion.

 

[Thunderman101]

The thing is, Uzi is also a martial arts specialist; remember, she learned martial arts by watching anime, so that shows her immense learning capacity.

Someone who learnt basic martial arts vs someone who has trained their entire life in a anime based off martial arts.

if tien sees her previous opponents getting dura neegged why wouldnt he just keep his distance. The nulls that spawn on people dont even have profficent range

 

[Thunderman101]

But... I'm not talking about its range, but its ability to ignore durability, which isn't achieved solely through an internal explosion.

they start 4km away, nothing on her profile says that she could insta kill him as soon as the match starts because they start so far away

 

[Niko]

it i mean tenshinhan my bad. I dont think it was equalized??

No, it's speed equalized. Please read the match's rule

I meant throwing a null.

No, she won't need to throw a null if Tien is not a solver like her. Uzi's not that dumb in combat.

Also, tien also gets to see previous matches, remember. Hes a strategic fighter and if he sees people getting duranged one shot hes obviously gonna make sure that dosent happen. Either by getting out of her line of sight or something else.

Same goes to Uzi, although she isn't a strategist, she still fought Cyn and J in a 1v2 before quickly turning into a 1v1 in the beginning.

her range is pretty shit

Her range... Isn't pretty shit.

 

[Thunderman101]

Her range... Isn't pretty shit.

im not talking about the thrown ones im talking about the ones that spawn on people that you guys swear uzi would insta mega kill please readdd

 

[Thunderman101]

Same goes to Uzi, although she isn't a strategist, she still fought Cyn and J in a 1v2 before quickly turning into a 1v1 in the beginning.

Her range... Isn't pretty shit.

1.If tenshinhan sees people getting durnaged in uzis previous matches hes going to know to keep his distance
2.the ones that spawn on people do have shit range, they star 4km away
3.tienshinan has far better skill

 

[Thunderman101]

tienshinan is far faster and can blast his opponents

 

[Soul80]

im not talking about the thrown ones im talking about the ones that spawn on people that you guys swear uzi would insta mega kill please readdd

That's... literally part of the solver range itself.

 

[Thunderman101]

That's... literally part of the solver range itself.

im confused whhat you mean. the solver having op range in one ability does not make it the same for every single one is it a universal energy system?

And if this is true then why does her profile specify the op range is with the null throws and lasers, cant use stuff not on the profile buddy

 

[RealDuker98]

im not that experienced on dragon bal, waiting for tien supporters. im not arguing uzi wont go for the kill, i arguing she wont go for the very convienient very specific means to defeat her opponent. How good is her range even. Her good good range on her pf is from her railgun and her throwing black holes

Uzi is not dumb(in fact, out of any solver user, she'll defo be the first one I'd think would use her wincons).

She knows Tien is stronger than her, she'll immediately go for one of her win cons.

And if you really don't want to use explosion manip, Transmutation is like the 3rd thing she does. Heck Spatial Manip is right there.

• Biological Manipulation and Transmutation (Turned an arrow and a light into organic amalgamations)

• Spatial Manipulation (Solver users can bend space)

I mean I could also arg for Tien having like no good win-con against Uzi, especially due to solver regen being extremely quick, and her multiple immortalities and the fact that there is nothing in his arsenal that is even remotely close to Uzi's.

 

[Thunderman101]

Uzi is not dumb.

She knows Tien is stronger than her, she'll immediately go for one of her win cons.

And if you really don't want to use explosion manip, Transmutation is like the 3rd thing she does. Heck Spatial Manip is right there.

range range range sahur

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I mean I could also arg for Tien having like no good win-con against Uzi, especially due to solver regen being extremely quick, and her multiple immortalities and the fact that there is nothing in his arsenal that is even remotely close to Uzi's.

A full body blast should get the job done

 

[Soul80]

im confused whhat you mean. the solver having op range in one ability does not make it the same for every single one is it a universal energy system?

Null is subset of absolute solver functions, yeah that's just one of their abilities , which is not actually being a superior on absolute solver system itself,
The same goes to beam.