Uzi vs Thrall: The winner of a 5-B Tiersetter's reward...

[Soul80]

if its not on the profile then too bad so sad

Let's go back on argument anyway.

what is is "it"

I was talking about arrow in this scene lol
Can you please try to refuse my past argument ? Her transmutation come out trough biological manip

 

[DaReaperMan]

its not that bad of an ap gap, does khadgar upscale his value?

This is not Khadgar. And no, this key of Thrall does not upscale, he actually downscales kinda significantly. Like, someone stronger than him went for an amp to fight someone who scales directly to the feat kind of downscale. And his World Shaman key just normally scales without upscaling or downscaling.

 

[Soul80]

Likely Cyn's light tentacle thing

Why does it's on her second key ? Not on the last like wth

 

[Soul80]

This is not Khadgar. And no, this key of Thrall does not upscale, he actually downscales kinda significantly.

As a jjk fan , I relate it lol
we jjk fans cannot read after all.

 

[DaReaperMan]

As a jjk fan , I relate it lol
we jjk fans cannot read after all.

Generally, any of the At Most 5-Bs are significantly downscaling from that 10x Planet level thing.

 

[Niko]

Why does it's on her second key ? Not on the last like wth

It can also be eldritch centipede size idk, idk

 

[DaReaperMan]

It can also be eldritch centipede size idk, idk

Hot

 

[Thunderman101]

There's a difference between "She's never willingly done it even when someone is KILLNG HER" and "She's never willingly done it in the specific situations she had in her series". Unless you genuinely believe someone, who was not Cyn, had her against the wall. And mind you, Cyn is basically THE Admin for the Solver!

Who do you think Thrall is?

idk man. Either way i still belive that the tk triangle thing is the base and if she cant get that off she cant use any of the subset ano;otes

Translate and edit are different functions though? You can combine it of course but it's still different abilities

For example, she just holding it because it tried to kill her after this

and then the transmutation came out accidentatly cause she was low on oil and freaking out

Let's go back on argument anyway.

I was talking about arrow in this scene lol
Can you please try to refuse my past argument ? Her transmutation come out trough biological manip

and the bio manip comes out through tk, which wont work

This statement maybe actually be irrelevant, and very targeted/nitpicky.

logic chopping fallacy



Disengaging now, this is the easiest way to lose a debate

 

[Soul80]

It can also be eldritch centipede size idk, idk

Hmh
I only now remember that I forgot to add large size type 1 for Sentinel )

 

[DaReaperMan]

idk man. Either way i still belive that the tk triangle thing is the base and if she cant get that off she cant use any of the subset ano;otes

and then the transmutation came out accidentatly cause she was low on oil and freaking out

and the bio manip comes out through tk, which wont work

logic chopping fallacy



Disengaging now, this is the easiest way to lose a debate

What does ano;otes mean?

 

[Thunderman101]

What does ano;otes mean?

abilites*

 

[Thunderman101]

last thing

If ability b is a subset of ability a, and ability a has to be on for ability b to use, and opponent is immune to ability a, i dont see how ability b will work here

 

[DaReaperMan]

Caught in 4k!

 

[Soul80]

and then the transmutation came out accidentatly cause she was low on oil and freaking out

Like I said before

Yeah ? And she used the same translate by accident and then using by her own later on , she growned additional limbs like wings and tail and then using it too by her own , so that's not something actual expected. Everytime she finding a new absolute solver she mastering it just for a days

I guess I need to show fews times as long as you will understand it

and the bio manip comes out through tk, which wont work

No ? Like I already said that edit and translate are different abilities which you can combined but it doesn't that they're same abilities. (Headcanons at finest ngl)

 

[Soul80]

If ability b is a subset of ability a, and ability a has to be on for ability b to use, and opponent is immune to ability a, i dont see how ability b will work here

What's bro talking about

 

[Thunderman101]

Like I said before

I guess I need to show fews times as long as you will understand it

No ? Like I already said that edit and translate are different abilities which you can combined but it doesn't that they're same abilities. (Headcanons at finest ngl)

i dont know what edit and translate mean. I assume edit is the weird triangle thing and translate is a black hole. Thrall resists both try again

Like I said before

I guess I need to show fews times as long as you will understand it

No ? Like I already said that edit and translate are different abilities which you can combined but it doesn't that they're same abilities. (Headcanons at finest ngl)

even if she used edit (I asume u mean tk), by accident it wont matter as it just wont work here

What's bro talking about

 

[Thunderman101]

What's bro talking about

making fun of the argument instead of adressing it #noticing

 

[ARandomDude127]

Depends if he has also biological resistance though (cuz it's come out from this)

Phooey, yeah that’s fair. Unless it’s a Shaman ability, then he doesn’t resist Bio Manip. So I guess it’s fair game?

 

[Thunderman101]

Phooey, yeah that’s fair. Unless it’s a Shaman ability, then he doesn’t resist Bio Manip. So I guess it’s fair game?

if thebio manip comes from tk and she cant use the tk how can she use bio manip

 

[ARandomDude127]

if thebio manip comes from tk and she cant use the tk how can she use bio manip

I don’t think it comes from TK, at least that’s not what the profile says.

It’s just it’s own ability, and transmutation is a subset of said ability.

 

[Thunderman101]

I don’t think it comes from TK, at least that’s not what the profile says.

It’s just it’s own ability, and transmutation is a subset of said ability.

im a bit confused here, all the clips she used that transmutatin, the wierd triangl thing came first and thats accepted as tk right?

 

[ARandomDude127]

im a bit confused here, all the clips she used that transmutatin, the wierd triangl thing came first and thats accepted as tk right?

Beats me bro I know jack about MD

 

[Soul80]

i dont know what edit and translate mean. I assume edit is the weird triangle thing and translate is a black hole. Thrall resists both try again

No, Translate is the same telekinesis , edit is function how they can manipulate objects in process to edit it like biologically mass

even if she used edit (I asume u mean tk), by accident it wont matter as it just wont work here

Tk is translate

 

[Thunderman101]

No, Translate is the same telekinesis , edit is function how they can manipulate objects in process to edit it like biologically mass

Tk is translate

link wont work, is the scan on her profile?

 

[Soul80]

making fun of the argument instead of adressing it #noticing

I didn't say anything about you ? I simple asked what are you talking about ?
If you think that edit come out through translate then no? That's seperate abilities which can work on their own but still can be combineted

 

[Thunderman101]

either way, from the showings, for her to use edit she needs to use translate first

I didn't say anything about you ? I simple asked what are you talking about ?
If you think that edit come out through translate then no? That's seperate abilities which can work on their own but still can be combineted

You cant just say edit and translate with no context and excpet people to know

 

[Soul80]

link wont work, is the scan on her profile?

For some reason
Psychomaster didn't addressed it , even though it's come out after episode 4

 

[Thunderman101]

For some reason
Psychomaster didn't addressed it , even though it's come out after episode 4

so why are we using it if its not on the profile

 

[Thunderman101]

also uzis profile and md support arguments contradict themselves.

If solver ability users dont work on other solvers then why does uzi have feats of breaking out of dolls telekenisis if it dosent work on her?

 

[Soul80]

You cant just say edit and translate with no context and excpet people to know

Well my apologies ig , you should just tell me if you didn't understand what I'm meant by the same "translate" and "edit" at all, it's not that hard anyway lol.

 

[Thunderman101]

if solver users cant use their powers on eachother directly like spawning on them why does uzi have feats of breaking out of dolls tk?

 

[Soul80]

If solver ability users dont work on other solvers then why does uzi have feats of breaking out of dolls telekenisis if it dosent work on her?

I mean, it's because they can overpower each solver authority like here for example

 

[Thunderman101]

I mean, it's because they can overpower each solver authority like here for example

its all blocked.......... i cant do this can someone please pput it on img chest or smth

 

[Niko]

No, Translate is the same telekinesis , edit is function how they can manipulate objects in process to edit it like biologically mass

@Thunderman101 since you can't see, here you go

 

[Thunderman101]

I mean, it's because they can overpower each solver authority like here for example

nevermind it worked out it was just slow. Anyways why are you trying to argue that overpowering mind control is the same as overpowering ls

 

[Thunderman101]

@Thunderman101 since you can't see, here you go

ah, but from the clips it still looks like she has to use solver translate if she wants to use solver edit, and solver translate wont work here

 

[Niko]

its all blocked.......... i cant do this can someone please pput it on img chest or smth

 

[Thunderman101]

i got it, but either way it looks like she overpowered the solver mind controlling her, not its lifting strength. Dosent this also contradict the claim that solvers cant spawn theoir abilites on eachother, and come to think of it wheres the clip of uzi overpowering dolls tk

 

[Soul80]

nevermind it worked out it was just slow. Anyways why are you trying to argue that overpowering mind control is the same as overpowering ls

I mean it's should be just generally resistance to absolute solver.
Higher administration should overpower another administrator through higher scaling of the solver.
We should understand that Uzi got her solver trough Nori genes, which was the only stable and surviving host of the solver (except the same Yeva, the reason why she is survived since she was a patched host, that's should be explained why we never saw her transform into her solver form with wings and tail, and that's should explain why Cyn wasn't interested on Doll) so that's means that her solver is way more powerful than Doll generally

 

[Thunderman101]

I mean it's should be just generally resistance to absolute solver.
Higher administration should overpower another administrator through higher scaling of the solver.
We should understand that Uzi got her solver trough Nori genes, which was the only stable and surviving host of the solver (except the same Yeva, the reason why she is survived since she was a patched host, that's should be explained why we never saw her transform into her solver with wings and tail, and that's should explain why Cyn wasn't interested on Doll) so that's means that her solver is way more powerful than doll

wil respond later