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Is the Princess of Hell BRIGHT enough save her people (Charlie Morningstar vs The Vees) (0-0-0)

Aytugsss said:
İ know im saying speed doesnt matter
And you say charlie was blitz above vees,im saying she shouldnt get scale that way because he saw adams coming far away.
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If you really disagree about what's on the profiles then go make a CRT to change it (not now though, we're about to get a huge one)
Aytugsss said:
Emily has the same speed as charlie of not faster than her
İ realized now
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Base Charlie
Emily has nothing to scale to Enraged Demon Form Charlie
 
DarkLock92 said:
You're arguing against what's on the profiles. Charlie is currently accepted to become faster with her Rage Power. You can't just ignore that.

Again Charlie is not in base, she's in her demon form and enraged.
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İm not arguing with profiles
She just not a blitz above vees and vox isnt in his base either he has two power up to use
Charlie is clearly stronger then them but m.o.l gives vees the advantages i dont think charlie blitz them
 
DarkLock92 said:
If you really disagree about what's on the profiles then go make a CRT to change it (not now though, we're about to get a huge one)

Base Charlie
Emily has nothing to scale to Enraged Demon Form Charlie
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İ will do it later then , i need to collect few mini crt before i make a new one, i will do it after the mega crt then
And the thing is charlie is not a blitz above them

Unrelated to topic but,i think alostor does not blitzed by adam because alostor attempted to block an enraged attack from adam and he eventually block it with his staff
Then caught off guard
İ will add this to (later)
 
Aytugsss said:
İm not arguing with profiles
She just not a blitz above vees and vox isnt in his base either he has two power up to use
Charlie is clearly stronger then them but m.o.l gives vees the advantages i dont think charlie blitz them
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It's fine if you don't think Charlie is a blitz tier above the Vees. As I've said before, I myself am not 100% convinced on Adam blitzing Alastor either.
Vox being in his 100% form doesn't mean much here. His speed amp is lower than Charlie's (Higher vs Far Higher) and doesn't change the speed of the MoL or any other combatant.
Charlie is still far faster than the MoL beam, that's the big thing here
 
Aytugsss said:
İ will do it later then , i need to collect few mini crt before i make a new one, i will do it after the mega crt then
And the thing is charlie is not a blitz above them

Unrelated to topic but,i think alostor does not blitzed by adam because alostor attempted to block an enraged attack from adam and he eventually block it with his staff
Then caught off guard
İ will add this to (later)
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Oh wow I didn't expect this
Good luck I guess
 
Mythic381 said:
She only noticed it a second before he landed the hit, and she was fast enough to block it.

Based on what?
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Charlie notices it when adam far away, she tells lucifer,lucifer turn around and at the same time charlie caught adams fist
Based on feats emily did the most of the work and work faster than charlie
 
Aytugsss said:
Charlie notices it when adam far away, she tells lucifer,lucifer turn around and at the same time charlie caught adams fist
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So she reacted to Adam long before he actually landed the hit?
That's a great speed feat considering he was considerably faster than her before.
 
Aytugsss said:
Charlie notices it when adam far away, she tells lucifer,lucifer turn around and at the same time charlie caught adams fist
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Adam was fast enough to reach her like a couple seconds after she said that, and as I said, she was fast enough to block his attack.
Aytugsss said:
Based on feats emily did the most of the work and work faster than charlie
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Emily is more mobile via the fact she has wings. Charlie relied on flying with her shield, which she also needed to use as a shield. You can't argue Emily is faster when Charlie was unable to fly most of the time.
 
Mythic381 said:
Adam was fast enough to reach her like a couple seconds after she said that, and as I said, she was fast enough to block his attack.

Emily is more mobile via the fact she has wings. Charlie relied on flying with her shield, which she also needed to use as a shield. You can't argue Emily is faster when Charlie was unable to fly most of the time.
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Adam fast enough to react charlie but that doesnt change the truth that charlie see adams coming far away thats make this feat easier to accomplish
She see adam,tells lucifer ,lucifer look back ,turn around and charlie block the attack
Charlie moves less than one meter while adam moves like twenty meter
 
Aytugsss said:
That doesnt work like that bro you know it
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Why not?
Adam was enraged and going full speed at them. Charlie notices and then blocks the attack. Considering she previous failed twice to defend against his attacks this is impressive.
If this isn't a speed fear then I don't know what is.
 
DarkLock92 said:
Why not?
Adam was enraged and going full speed at them. Charlie notices and then blocks the attack. Considering she previous failed twice to defend against his attacks this is impressive.
If this isn't a speed fear then I don't know what is.
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When attacker start attack far away and the defender react it
İt doesnt give feat that much. İts like football
Long shots is easier than close shots
 
Aytugsss said:
When attacker start attack far away and the defender react it
İt doesnt give feat that much. İts like football
Long shots is easier than close shots
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Doesn't really mean much when Charlie had previously failed to react to Adam's attacks before, but now successfully does so.
Also Adam's flight speed is equal to his combat speed, meaning that Charlie reacting to that would also show an increase in her speed
 
DarkLock92 said:
Doesn't really mean much when Charlie had previously failed to react to Adam's attacks before, but now successfully does so.
Also Adam's flight speed is equal to his combat speed, meaning that Charlie reacting to that would also show an increase in her speed
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Charlie fails to react adam in close combat
First while off guard second while close combat
Rage amp will give her speed but not that mcch
 
Aytugsss said:
Charlie fails to react adam in close combat
First while off guard second while close combat
Rage amp will give her speed but not that mcch
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It's still a speed amp. However much you think it is she's still faster than the beam and the Vees, she can simply focus on it and ignore them considering her monstrous stat advantage.
 
DarkLock92 said:
It's still a speed amp. However much you think it is she's still faster than the beam and the Vees, she can simply focus on it and ignore them considering her monstrous stat advantage.
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Beam isnt immobilized vox can change its direction and charlie need to avoid it while fighting tree other person who is relative to her speed
The speed difference isnt that great
 
Aytugsss said:
Beam isnt immobilized vox can change its direction and charlie need to avoid it while fighting tree other person who is relative to her speed
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The Vees were able to casually duck under the beam went Vox swung the MoL in their direction.
She doesn't need to fight them, she monstrously outstats them, she can just tank their attacks and move on.
Aytugsss said:
The speed difference isnt that great
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I think it's great enough but you clearly don't, and we're pretty much going back and forth so let's agree to disagree
 
DarkLock92 said:
The Vees were able to casually duck under the beam went Vox swung the MoL in their direction.
She doesn't need to fight them, she monstrously outstats them, she can just tank their attacks and move on.

I think it's great enough but you clearly don't, and we're pretty much going back and forth so let's agree to disagree
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Okay im stopping here
 
Nobody is winning. That's what an incon is
going more indept using my previous quotes on the topic as this isn't the first time this was brought up and i had to dispute it
Charlie have 3 votes and the Vees have 4 votes in this matchup, starting Inconclusive grace (over 7 votes in total with neither in the lead) and all I've done is simply put Incon grace the moment there were 7 votes across the two opponets with no opponent in the lead.
I only know about the Incon 3 votes on one side+4 on another=Incon grace cuz of this matchup
i wouldn't manufacture an outcome for this or any matchup, A Charlie win or a The Vees win works fine for me either way, I just want a proper matchup.
 
like guys, I've never manufactured a matchup (I would get nothing but a ban if i did and i quite like my place here) and would win regardless of who of these opponents come out victorious.
if Charlie wins, i slander The vees for losing despite the basically instant win button.
If The vees win, i slander charlie for losing despite gaping them all in strength.
If neither win, i slander both for not being able to win against each other despite easy wincons.
it's that simple

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Anonymous_Learner said:
i wouldn't manufacture an outcome for this or any matchup
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We aren't saying that, I always thought Incon Grace worked that way, after a long voting with no actual winner it happens. Not when there is only 7 votes in total without a winner? Maybe I am wrong but I have never seen it happen like that
 
Mythic381 said:
Dude, what?
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After looking at this AGAIN, this ain't even flight. She's literally just sleighing around on her shield and we see her drop and slide to the ground after catching that sinner.
Plus, I don't believe she would scream for alastor's name if she could literally fly and could catch up to him like emily did
 
Ok to prevent you from getting reported again in wiki vandalism. Grace period starts IF a character has 7 votes, not if the match has a total sum of 7 votes.
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
She's literally just sleighing around on her shield and we see her drop and slide to the ground after catching that sinner.
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Uh no? She straight up was still smoothly moving in the air after dropping the sinner down. It would absolutely NOT move like that if she was indeed just sleighing down, especially to with how it still stayed up in the air despite being close to the ground without falling down, as before it, she was going down way faster, so it makes no sense she was going down fast, but it suddenly stopped doing that.
Anonymous_Learner said:
Plus, I don't believe she would scream for alastor's name if she could literally fly and could catch up to him like emily did
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She was literally holding her shield on her arm.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Ok to prevent you from getting reported again in wiki vandalism. Grace period starts IF a character has 7 votes, not if the match has a total sum of 7 votes.
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Apparently:
Anonymous_Learner said:
Nobody is winning. That's what an incon is
going more indept using my previous quotes on the topic as this isn't the first time this was brought up and i had to dispute it
Charlie have 3 votes and the Vees have 4 votes in this matchup, starting Inconclusive grace (over 7 votes in total with neither in the lead) and all I've done is simply put Incon grace the moment there were 7 votes across the two opponets with no opponent in the lead.
I only know about the Incon 3 votes on one side+4 on another=Incon grace cuz of this matchup
i wouldn't manufacture an outcome for this or any matchup, A Charlie win or a The Vees win works fine for me either way, I just want a proper matchup.
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I don't really think this makes sense, considering what is directly said on the versus thread rules page, but I wouldn't know much.
 
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