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A.M.A.Z.O. (DCAU) vs Izuku Midoriya (Final Act) [0-0-0]

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This is Justice League A.M.A.Z.O. and Final War Deku being used, speed is equalized, both are in character and to make things slightly more interesting Deku is starting in Base but can ramp things up to his max power if he needs it. Let's see if he can beat the world's greatest hero of another universe.

A.M.A.Z.O. :

Deku :

Incon :
 
So amazo starts breaking his bones with 100% and starts feeling 1% of what Deku had to suffer in the series :O
 
Even worse. The in verse explanation is them exploding into pieces
Amazo can evolve beyond that because he evolved to low 1-C

Amazo does not need to use 100%, he has Flash powers that for being used can send him to the speed force so he knows certain powers has to be limited and he is in fact fighting 30% so he can stick to that until he adapts to a higher %

Has Mid Regen in case one part blows up, which would be rare

Gearshift weakness for amazo is non existant, he does not need to breath as an android, so permanent boost and whith fa jin he can use higher travel speed to charge it even faster, so he is the one using 2 boost first while deku can't do the same for being the slower character, as he literally starts in supersonic speed while Amazo is FTL

And it seems that Amazo can evolve physical weaknesses in minutes and that is against Kryptonite that is a massive hard counter to Superman, Deku's weaknesses are based on him not being good enough physically to handle AFO, Amazo dwarf initial Deku body, he is a 8-A using a quirk to amp himself, Amazo is low 7-B with multiples powers from others guys that amp him beyond normal Deku


And if you mean what Deku did to Shigaraki, that is because AFO reached the soul of Shigaraki with vestiges, Amazo is simply copying that, not making vestiges on a non existant soul (a later key of Amazo would have this problem though for dealing with Solom Grundy though but that Amazo is ******* 5-B and one taps Deku)
 
I see nothing on the profile in regards to how quickly these adaptations occur. Are they gradual, instantaneous, etc?

That said, if it's gradual, Deku can just tap into enough power to one shot Amazo given his regen caps at Mid in this key. Which is enough to cover decapitation, but not being blown to pieces.
 
I see nothing on the profile in regards to how quickly these adaptations occur. Are they gradual, instantaneous, etc?

That said, if it's gradual, Deku can just tap into enough power to one shot Amazo given his regen caps at Mid in this key. Which is enough to cover decapitation, but not being blown to pieces.
He looks at Deku and insta copies his powers.
Oh wait, you meant adapting to weaknesses ?
 
If he instantly copies his ap and stats then it’s another kamen rider match situation but worse because he would have all his quirks
 
He looks at Deku and insta copies his powers.
Alright, so a few seconds to copy (Which given he starts with a massive speed advantage given Deku starts in his Supersonic stat will be instant for Deku).

As far as I'm aware, Quirks are both a biological mutation, and linked to the soul of the individual. Has Amazo ever copied any abilities similar to that, or no? If he lacks the feats, he shouldn't be capable of copying OFA.
 
. Has Amazo ever copied any abilities similar to that
Green lantern willpower


They are still biological, Amazo can copy the biological part and recreate the other part, if a robot has willpower then the robot can get a soul as well

And still, he is just copying, way different that stealing like OFA, he literaly copied a speed force conection while not being a Flash, or now Monoma also gets vestiges when he copy powers?
 
Green lantern willpower
Willpower and a soul are two completely different things.
They are still biological, Amazo can copy the biological part and recreate the other part, if a robot has willpower then the robot can get a soul as well
If there's a precedent for him substituting an aspect of an ability in order to make it work then I'm fine with this tbh
 
speed is equalized for one thing so AMAZO being faster doesn't matter since he's brought down to Deku's slowest speed being Hypersonic+ since he starts in base

another thing is that due to Deku starting in base, he'll instantly amp himself up to whatever the highest precent is he can do, its stated and accepted as such on the profile meaning he'd quickly gain the speed advantage from going 100% plus Gearshift so already perception blitzing AMAZO

why do we assume AMAZON gains the AP of the opponent through the power they have? it doesn't state that anywhere and the only thing his power mimicry does is allow him to gain the abilities of the opponent through physiology copying. even if he could he'd be copying Deku's physicals and not OFA which is Multi-City Block level with Small City Level Dura

even if he could gain the AP from OFA, he can't use it since without proper training since the users body would simply explode and this applies to AMAZO as well since he only has Small City Dura and wouldn't be able to withstand the recoil of anything beyond maybe 30% of OFA, thats even saying he COULD copy OFA since other people with copy power's have tried and couldn't due to its stockpile nature from previous users.

AMAZO's mid regen isn't covering getting hit by 5.60 Petatons of TNT punch that Nana Shimura was confident would obliterate someone with regen in in the same ball park of AMAZO with vastly superior stats. AMAZO isn't someone Deku is trying to save so he'd likely end the fight as fast as possible.

AMAZO has got a lot of powers but ion think any of em save him from getting perception blitzed and punched out of existance.
 
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speed is equalized for one thing so AMAZO being faster doesn't matter since he's brought down to Deku's slowest speed being Hypersonic+ since he starts in base
Yes, and his inmense MFTL+ travel speed is still his advantage to charge a Fa jin first and win


even if he could gain the AP from OFA, he can't use it since without proper training since the users body would simply explode and this applies to AMAZO as well since he only has Small City Dura and wouldn't be able to withstand the recoil of anything beyond maybe 30% of OFA, thats even saying he COULD copy OFA since other people with copy power's have tried and couldn't due to its stockpile nature from previous users.
Deku is a 8-A using amps to get to 6-A, Amazo is a Low 7-B with kriptonian physology, Martian physology, amazon physology and regen + adaptation, he is prepared to tank it

He can copy willpower when he is a robot and he shouldn't have that and also needs a literal technological ring that is almost impossible replicate and the guys who did it are EG
AMAZO's mid regen isn't covering getting hit by 5.60 Petatons of TNT punch that Nana Shimura was confident would obliterate someone with regen in in the same ball park of AMAZO with vastly superior stats. AMAZO isn't someone Deku is trying to save so he'd likely end the fight as fast as possible.
Amazo is the one who is using Deku's power first like gearshift to stop him, superman ice breath and can ******* become intangible at will if he needs to dodge anything lethal

Monoma has limitations, Amazon does not have those, and the limitations he had are him not being able to copy things like magic or things that are abstract concepts

And hey, you want to argue "Deku perception blitz"?

Okey, Deku is the slower one with speed unequalized, not possible to do by the rules, which is irrelevant because Amazo after copying him can just become intangible, adapt to AFO and win by being Deku without human limitations, because clearly Deku is a killer that is gonna use 100% in the first second of the fight, good, Amazo becomes intangible in the first second of the fight as well then
 
Finally

If Deku started this fight with social influencing and tried to know his motives, by logic of the series, he could convince Amazo that lex luthor is just using him or that he could used those powers for the good of others, giving him a purpose

But hey, Deku starts via instakilling, so yeah, no, that is how he was "defeated", talking to him and he left, Deku can do it, is in his powers, so sorry, not a stomp 🗿
 
Yes, and his inmense MFTL+ travel speed is still his advantage to charge a Fa jin first and win
all of AMAZO's speeds are brought down by the same multiplier so that MFTL+ travel speed is brought down to Deku's slowest speed.
Deku is a 8-A using amps to get to 6-A, Amazo is a Low 7-B with kriptonian physology, Martian physology, amazon physology and regen + adaptation, he is prepared to tank it

He can copy willpower when he is a robot and he shouldn't have that and also needs a literal technological ring that is almost impossible replicate and the guys who did it are EG
all said physiology is Low 7-B, he isn't suddenly going to tank a 6-A level attack that is millions of times stronger than he is cause of that. adaption to what? he can cover the weaknesses that come with powers but he can't just adapt to the level needed to survive the recoil or needed to use said attacks, he'd obliterate himself trying to use a 6-A level attack nor is this guy Garou who can jump tiers through it since thats not accepted on the profile.

copying willpower =/= copying stockpiled power, OFA took yrs to get to where it was by the end of the series and needed to be directly transferred for said power to be given to the user. i'm not doubting he could but using the full power of OFA for Amazo isn't happening like at all.
Amazo is the one who is using Deku's power first like gearshift to stop him, superman ice breath and can ******* become intangible at will if he needs to dodge anything lethal
AMAZO using gearshift is far less substantial for him than it is Izuku due to him being brought down to his slowest speed, Ice Breath is so predictable its funny, and Deku has fought people who can turn intangible and perfectly predicted them despite being slower, he'd wait for AMAZO to drop his guard and predict him perfectly.
And hey, you want to argue "Deku perception blitz"?

Okey, Deku is the slower one with speed unequalized, not possible to do by the rules, which is irrelevant because Amazo after copying him can just become intangible, adapt to AFO and win by being Deku without human limitations, because clearly Deku is a killer that is gonna use 100% in the first second of the fight, good, Amazo becomes intangible in the first second of the fight as well then
what?

1. Speed is equalized with Deku starting in base so AMAZO due to being faster is brought down to Deku's slower combat speed including all other speeds by the same multiplier. idk why you're talking about "speed unequalized" when thats just not the case here

2. Gearshift is literally accepted as a perception level amp when used, "even higher with Gearshift (Fast enough to blitz Shigaraki beyond his perception) and Overlay (Can match the speed of Full Power Shigaraki even without Gearshift)" so he doesn't even need to be using Gearshift to actually GET to said perception level speed and can just use Overlay just to prevent the problem and is far more substantial for Izuku due to the speed difference.

3. AMAZO isn't Garou, he can't change stats or change tiers through it. the only thing his adaptation does is remove weaknesses that previous existed and even then thats accepted as "if given enough time"

4. I never said Deku is a killer, read the profile if you don't like the fact he'd use 100% as soon as the fight starts lmao "Standard Tactics: Deku typically starts his battles by activating One For All at its maximum available output." and Amazo is a robot, why would Deku feel any need to care about it? its not Shigaraki who he was connected to on a spiritual level or some misguided villain within the MHA verse like Nagant of Gentle Criminal, its "evil robot who wants to end the world and is a serious threat" even then Deku had no problem killing All For One at the very end of things.

5. being intangible is nice and all but Deku isn't stupid either, he isn't gonna get trying to attack Amazo after seeing it once, he'd likely even deactivate Gearshift since it'd become a liability after too long and could just use overlay to keep the perception level speed. thats giving Amazo the benefit of the doubt he'd even be able to react to someone who is perception blitzing him as soon as the fight starts and if he'd even try intangibility first out of his numerous options to protect himself well also getting his movements predicted nor does Amazo "copying" give him the knowledge that Izuku's attack would wipe him from existence since its only "physiology, weapons and mannerisms" hell he still needs to actually examine Izuku after glance giving him enough time to perception blitz him.
Finally

If Deku started this fight with social influencing and tried to know his motives, by logic of the series, he could convince Amazo that lex luthor is just using him or that he could used those powers for the good of others, giving him a purpose

But hey, Deku starts via instakilling, so yeah, no, that is how he was "defeated", talking to him and he left, Deku can do it, is in his powers, so sorry, not a stomp 🗿
social influencing is something Deku has only ever done towards the end of the battle when the opponent is already incredibly exhausted (Nagant) or clearly someone struggling who he cares about deeply (Todoroki)

social influencing has failed in the past, he tried it on Dabi the same exact thing with Todoroki who simply laughed in his face when he did.

Deku doesn't know anything about Amazo so its incredibly unlikely he'd even consider trying social influencing so this is a pointless statement.
 
all of AMAZO's speeds are brought down by the same multiplier so that MFTL+ travel speed is brought down to Deku's slowest speed.
And that is still like mftl or ftl, relativistic at worse, so more than enough to be instantly filling fa jin


social influencing is something Deku has only ever done towards the end of the battle
Good to know because then several fights are bullshit if this is true (no one was added)


AMAZO isn't Garou, he can't change stats or change tiers through it. the only thing his adaptation does is remove weaknesses that previous existed and even then thats accepted as "if given enough time"
Never said that, he just copy OFA and starts understanding how that works, OFA failed to be copy properly by Monoma for his limitations, Amazo lacks those

Nothing to counter intangibility, so nothing more to say
 
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