Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

[Crabwhale]

It strikes me as odd that one would downplay the significance of a ban so much yet likewise act as if it is a big deal if we revoke it on some condition. You are right, these are not real incarcerations, and likewise nobody will die if we take a chance on letting someone prove themselves. Worst-case scenario we just ban them again after some mild annoyance.

I was directly responding to a message talking about dramatics. Of course I am attempting to dispel the idea of dramatics.

Bluntly, many of these hard-lines being taken recently against appeals have a tone which may suggest personal bias.
Certain people, like Bambu, I respect had the maturity to admit that was a possibility.
Others, I feel, may be unfairly accusing the rest of staff of having poor judgement for not sharing their feelings.

First of all, focusing on the very first word you used, "bluntly". To be blunt, you need to actually name the subject of which you are speaking of. If this is in reference to me or any other individual, you are being vague. And I think it would be appreciated if that was clear here.

In any case, I will clarify further: I do not care in the slightest bit about the user in question. I have no animosity toward them as compared to any other individual on the wiki. I had little personal contact with them even back when they were active before. However, I do see this as a manifestation of a worrying trend of us giving more and more leeway to individuals that have proven themselves unreliable in the past. That, I do care about.

Mercy is often fair. It is about what our rules are. I don't care whether you think the wiki is stupid or not.

My choice of wording was perhaps not the best, but the idea was to convey that the wiki is not a place that should be regarded with the greatest degree of seriousness a majority of the time. Its impact on people's lives should ultimate also be taken with a grain of salt. Perhaps "silly" would have served better.

I'm not. I'm framing this as a dude that's been banned for half a decade and wants to come back.

Has both not been half a decade yet and also had an active sock in 2024, less than two years ago. This statement is false, and you can easily check as such by seeing the link I posted.

As for the images: all of them are exceptionally old, which I take as a poor indicator for whether a user has changed. It's 2026. Three of them say 2022, and the one that says "today" is very old. I recognize your profile picture there. I have not seen it in some time. We already know he did a lot of shitty things in 2022. I will ask you if you are aware of evidence that would suggest bad actions from GodlyCharmander recently. I would like to know if there's something in the last, say, year and a half, as that would be more relevant, to me, if I were to make a re-judgment on the case.

I will resume hunting for anything relevant then, but I can see this is going nowhere. This is an unfortunate turn of events, but I have no excuses for the tardiness of my response. I concede for the time being.

 

[FinePoint]

I was directly responding to a message talking about dramatics. Of course I am attempting to dispel the idea of dramatics.

First of all, focusing on the very first word you used, "bluntly". To be blunt, you need to actually name the subject of which you are speaking of. If this is in reference to me or any other individual, you are being vague. And I think it would be appreciated if that was clear here.

My apologies. I try my best not to offend anyone, and as a result I sometimes over-hedge my wording. I even edited out some specifics because I was worried of it being misinterpreted as a personal attack.

So, just so we're all on the same page again, I hold no animosity towards anyone I'm criticizing here either- I'm just making observations.

With that out of the way, to be more specific: I think you, Bambu, and KingTempest have all posted messages here about appeals which have felt very emotionally charged or rooted in bad personal history with the user in question. In Bambu's case, they self-admitted they had a personal bias.

Now, on its surface, being emotional and being logical are not necessarily mutually exclusive, but it was my opinion that things were being blown a little out of proportion and that it may have stemmed from this emotional connection.

As an outsider with no personal history with these users, or rather, no personal history I have any strong feelings toward, none of this feels like the kinds of offenses we'd typically implement a permanent ban without chance of appeal for.

For example, in Charmander's case, it can be proven they had some malicious intent back then, but I feel it's also been proven they feel passionate about helping as well, and so their emotions may have simply gotten the best of them back then. I'm no stranger to private group chats forming around hostility, nor the way that kind of environment can spiral out of control and make people say/do things they later regret.

From my perspective, it is a no-brainer to offer someone like this a chance to prove themselves again after having already served a year of punishment, since I put inherent value in having people here helping out, view banning passionate people as sort of an operational tragedy, and view the risk as pretty minimal given how easy it would be to reinstate their ban.

However, I can also admit that perhaps I am reading too much into it, and that what I'm perceiving as hostile tone may just be a difference in writing style and philosophy.

 

[Crabwhale]

My extent of history with the user in question, as said before, is seeing him post about his puppet in the server, reporting his puppet, dealing with the aftermath, lunch.

I truly could not care less about the individual case. It is the future precedent being set that concerns me. That is the sole influence upon my emotional state.

 

[FinePoint]

I truly could not care less about the individual case. It is the future precedent being set that concerns me. That is the sole influence upon my emotional state.

Alright. I definitely understand that then.

I'm just also cautious about setting a precedent that we're overly harsh which may make people feel fearful of conveying controversial opinions (some of which we may need).

I've worked on projects in the past which have lost significant users over team members being too harsh in enforcement, leading people to grow uncomfortable participating. That said, nobody here is even close to as bad as that person was, outright name-calling banned users and such.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I kind of feel like both sides made there case and don't need to further discuss. As for own thoughts, I actually do believe in and support what Crabwhale's conclusions based on the decision regarding GodlyCharmander's ban lift. But I am also one who just counts as one vote, but an overall open to the democracy approach. If we're outvoted, we're outvoted and so be it.

 

[Vietthai96]

Just to clarify my stance in this Charmander case, i'm neutral. If his ban is kept, so be it; if his ban is going to be lifted, then keep him under watch and punish him harsher in case he wrecking thing up. Though I also hope that in case he returns, people don't ragebait him as well

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Just to clarify my stance in this Charmander case, i'm neutral. If his ban is kept, so be it; if his ban is going to be lifted, then keep him under watch and punish him harsher in case he wrecking thing up. Though I also hope that in case he returns, people don't ragebait him as well

I do feel it is important to clarify that votes aren't really needed. Charmander was unbanned awhile ago. Crab's contribution was proffering presumably novel information, which was important to an extent even if it didn't repeal the appeal (hah).

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Thank you all for considering my case. I understand the concerns about my previous temper. I'm glad to prove I've become a better person.

 

[GrathOfLux]

I recently posted a general instructional warning to the users in this thread, regarding an influx of inappropriate and off-topic comments made, such as:

Ts having me cry and lmfao... son id bet that a monkeys iq score is higher than yours

My warning on the thread made the point clear that further issues would result in the matter being brought to the RVRT.

In the past few posts, the thread has begun to derail again, particularly due to personal disagreements between the users Okstrike and ShinMaximillion.

"I-i-it's not like I c-conceeded or anything. B-baka!"

Truthfully though, I'm not replying because your aren't open minded, have you ever met an open minded person who dismisses an argument before reading it? of course not! Your mind was obviously already made up before you came here so I won't waste time trying to convince you and just wait for Ultima

So I am bringing the matter here in accordance with what I stated previously.

My opinion is that nothing here is especially severe, but that it is concerning this type of derailing occurred so shortly after an admin warning on the topic. Another set of eyes on the matter would be good to have.

 

[Antvasima]

Hello. I just received the following message:

"Hello, Antvasima. My name is DarthSpiderr, and I was once banned from VSB. It was related to transphobia a couple of years ago. I was initially banned permanently without a court order, and then you intervened. You tried to get a month-long ban, but during the dispute, I was given a year-long ban. A year later, it turned out I had fake accounts while I was banned, and I received a permanent ban.

I don't know if you remember, but sometime in the summer of 2025, I wrote you a letter sincerely apologizing for my behavior (I was a teenager then) and saying that I had changed my worldview and attitude toward people, and that I really wanted to return to the power scaling community and start doing a lot of calculations again. Unfortunately, I haven't found that correspondence; I must have chosen the wrong account; I never use that site. I remember you telling me during our conversation that we should wait about a year to even broach the topic of unbanning me. But I thought so much time had passed, maybe we could address this issue now, to discuss whether I could be unbanned? Please, it's very important to me.

I'll repeat, as I said in that letter, I've become completely tolerant of all trans people, and I have a positive attitude toward people with non-traditional sexual orientations... I completely condemn my old statements and jokes, and I'm deeply ashamed, truly sorry. And I really hope that they'll accept me back. I promise not to break any more rules."

I don't remember this member or the conversation they refer to, but think that I should mention it here anyway.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I'm altering the message content a bit to remove sensitive information. I am deleting comments referring to that information. Normally these things are public, and perhaps DarthSpiderr meant for said information to be public, but nevertheless, it seems right to not show it in the case that we don't know their intent.

 

[FinePoint]

I don't remember this member or the conversation they refer to, but think that I should mention it here anyway.

It wasn't in the tracker, but I found the incident in 2022. And here is their original transphobic comment.

Then a year later when their block was about to expire was the sockpuppet incident in 2023.

Overall, it's been multiple years, and their initial offense honestly wasn't that severe (a point you fought for pretty hard but were outvoted).

I would support giving them another chance.

 

[Reiner04]

Reading his old case gives me the impression that he didn’t fully understood the gravity of his comments and jokes. It doesn’t seem like he intended or expected anyone to be hurt, though I wouldn’t be entirely certain about his intent. But Because of that, he never apologized, which is obviously not a good attitude. He needs to understand that what may seem like a joke to him might not be joke for others. If he genuinely understands that now, acknowledges that his actions were wrong, and makes sure not to repeat them, then I would be fine with unbanning him. However, any repetition of such behavior should, imo, result in a perma ban.

 

[Nierre]

im for unbanning as well

 

[Mr. Bambu]

To speak on the subject: I am also fine with DarthSpiderr receiving an appeal. I find their apology genuine and I think they've served their time, even acknowledging the sockpuppeting. The same should go for them as we have done for other appeals: they're on thin ice, and should be reprimanded harshly if they break the rules upon coming back.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

While he initially said something very blatant, and made one sock, I do think people maturing and revitalizing their views is redeemable. So I am willing to give him a chance.

 

[GrathOfLux]

I am also willing to give DarthSpiderr a chance.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for your replies. I will unblock @DarthSpiderr in our forum and wiki then.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Our troubles with Vzearr are not complete.

Those of you able to see deleted posts should find this pretty blatantly to be a proxy post on the behalf of Vzearr. It falls against our rules to do so without explicit staff approval, which is never mentioned in the thread. The user is literally brand new, seemingly having only signed up in order to proxy for Vzearr. They have claimed that the arguments are their own, in their defense, though I do find this hard to believe, given that they also stated they couldn't even see the scans they were using for said arguments.

@LostLightt You are permitted to speak in your own defense, if you'd like.

For now, I am in favor of simply a warning to not do this again. You're allowed to converse with Vzearr offsite, but you cannot just take evidence you cannot see and argue for it on his behalf.

 

[Reiner04]

Warning should be fine for now considering he is new user.

 

[LostLightt]

Our troubles with Vzearr are not complete.

Those of you able to see deleted posts should find this pretty blatantly to be a proxy post on the behalf of Vzearr. It falls against our rules to do so without explicit staff approval, which is never mentioned in the thread. The user is literally brand new, seemingly having only signed up in order to proxy for Vzearr. They have claimed that the arguments are their own, in their defense, though I do find this hard to believe, given that they also stated they couldn't even see the scans they were using for said arguments.

@LostLightt You are permitted to speak in your own defense, if you'd like.

For now, I am in favor of simply a warning to not do this again. You're allowed to converse with Vzearr offsite, but you cannot just take evidence you cannot see and argue for it on his behalf.

My screenshots prove ts was made by me.

All of the scans are in mikeys profile, I literally jst reused the scans and used my context of the feats to expand on them.

 

[Agnaa]

All of the scans are in mikeys profile, I literally jst reused the scans and used my context of the feats to expand on them.

The first one I checked was uploaded to Imgur 7 hours ago, and is accordingly not on Mikey's profile.

I checked four other random ones and found the same held true for those.

Given that lie, I'd believe that you're either a Vzearr sock, or a friend who decided to tell those little lies as an excuse to cover it up.

I'm more inclined to believe it's the latter, honestly. And with that I'd suggest a two week ban. Hopefully enough for Vzearr to get off your back about this sorta thing.

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Also, given this, I'd strongly endorse bringing back the restrictions on TR threads. Might move to make a thread on that after this gets some more input.

 

[LostLightt]

The first one I checked was uploaded to Imgur 7 hours ago, and is accordingly not on Mikey's profile.

I checked four other random ones and found the same held true for those.

Given that lie, I'd believe that you're either a Vzearr sock, or a friend who decided to tell those little lies as an excuse to cover it up.

I'm more inclined to believe it's the latter, honestly. And with that I'd suggest a two week ban. Hopefully enough for Vzearr to get off your back about this sorta thing.

Vapes uploading scans that aren't in the profile but that don't mean he made the thread. Some of the scans were literally broken from the profile so when he read through my shi, he told me to replace it:
[SCAN EDITED OUT]

Also why is my thread gone now. I cant find it?

 

[Agnaa]

Vapes uploading scans that aren't in the profile but that don't mean he made the thread. Some of the scans were literally broken from the profile so when he read through my shi, he told me to replace it:

If you can properly substantiate that claim, I'll believe it.

You could do so by showing me which of the scans you initially pulled from the profile, and are now broken. Either by directly giving the links, or by sending a more full screenshot of this Discord message:

Until then, I'll maintain my view.

Also why is my thread gone now. I cant find it?

It was deleted. Mods can still see it, tho.

 

[LostLightt]

If you can properly substantiate that claim, I'll believe it.

You could do so by showing me which of the scans you initially pulled from the profile, and are now broken. Either by directly giving the links, or by sending a more full screenshot of this Discord message:

Aight bet:

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Ts was fixed. The old scan was broken by not including the full chapter, which vapour told me I have to do or else I'll be in trouble by yall.

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Ts scan was missing from all profiles so he added it:

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This scan was also missing:

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So was this scan:

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So was this scan: https://imgur.com/a/J3Xe1KRhttps:/
imgur.com/

Notice how most of the scans are old? That proves more vapes literally fixed my scans and added his own.

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U haven't substantiated ur claims well enough. Here's more of our conversation:

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[SCAN EDITED OUT]

Vapour only says he will help. He never says he will do it.

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Vapes was glazing Antvasima but here I said I was the one making the crt.

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Here I say I'll stop doing this vsbw shit, which kinda proves I'm the one making the CRT and not him.

Basically most of our convos revolve around him riding ant and getting defensive about it and me making the crt.

 

[Agnaa]

Aight bet:



Ts was fixed. The old scan was broken by not including the full chapter, which vapour told me I have to do or else I'll be in trouble by yall.



Ts scan was missing from all profiles so he added it:

This scan was also missing:

So was this scan:

So was this scan: https://imgur.com/a/J3Xe1KRhttps:/
imgur.com/

Some of these links were posted to the thread improperly.

You haven't shown what the old links were (the ones apparently in your original draft of the thread). All the links you've just posted have been new ones that aren't on the existing profile, which goes against your prior claims:

All of the scans are in mikeys profile, I literally jst reused the scans and used my context of the feats to expand on them.

Some of the scans were literally broken from the profile so when he read through my shi, he told me to replace it:

So, my view remains unchanged.

Notice how most of the scans are old? That proves more vapes literally fixed my scans and added his own.

Part of the issue at hand, which you denied, is the idea that Vapourrrr added scans that you weren't able to read.

 

[Random-Helper323]

This is frustrating as well as depressing. I liked Vzearr, honestly, and I hate to see this.

I must concur that TR probably needs to be restricted once again. The pages should probably be locked too.

Edit: also, those comments made about Ant don't exactly give a positive impression.

 

[Antvasima]

I have told Vzearr that it is likely best for his mental health if he learns to manage without interacting with our community.

Our forum has not registered any overlaps between the Vzearr and LostLightt accounts in any case.

 

[LostLightt]

Some of these links were posted to the thread improperly.

You haven't shown what the old links were (the ones apparently in your original draft of the thread). All the links you've just posted have been new ones that aren't on the existing profile, which goes against your prior claims:

I literally linked some scans from the old profile. Ur ignoring what I sent.

U also ignored the context messages.

It's fine though, I don't believe I cannot prove this. Actually, it's quite easy to prove. I'll figure sumthing out if u dont believe i've provided the sufficient evidence which I have in my opinion.

This is frustrating as well as depressing. I liked Vzearr, honestly, and I hate to see this.

I must concur that TR probably needs to be restricted once again. The pages should probably be locked too.

Edit: also, those comments made about Ant don't exactly give a positive impression.

Whats ur reasoning behind the restriction.

Also he's literally glazing ant, Idk what you want me to say. Ignore it? Nah, thats not me.

I actually like Ant. He's the only one who stuck by Vzearr while yall left him to rot, yall aint gonna hear me blatantly shit talk ant in that chat, I only shit talk when I believe it's needed, but thats private so it's not ur business.

 

[Random-Helper323]

I have told Vzearr that it is likely best for his mental health if he learns to manage without interacting with our community.

He does stick up for you in the screenshots, which I must respect.

Our forum has not registered any overlaps between the Vzearr and LostLightt accounts in any case.

I can't say I like how LostLightt talks about you in those screenshots though... I know you'll forgive, and as the targeted party it is up to you whether you take offense, which is important. I just don't see it as a good sign that things like that are said.

 

[Nierre]

He seems to be friends with Vapour but I dont see anything malicious that requires us put more restrictions on the verse. A verbal warning not to proxy for him without staff approval is sufficient IMO

 

[Reiner04]

I can't say I like how LostLightt talks about you in those screenshots though... I know you'll forgive, and as the targeted party it is up to you whether you take offense, which is important. I just don't see it as a good sign that things like that are said.

That’s just a heavily informal way of speaking off-site among friends. He also called Vzearr things but didn't necessarily mean any of it, and it doesn’t really go against our off-site rules. I can't really comment on his intent in the TR thread he posted but it's definitely suspicious. That said, a warning is still warranted but i wouldn't suggest anything more based on just suspicion. However, I would be against placing restrictions on the entire verse because of a single user actions. It would be better to evaluate the situation based on the overall behavior of the fanbase on-site since the removal of the restriction, rather than focusing on one individual.

All that said, i don't think we should full-on ban the topic/verse, just use the old restriction that was in place, that only trusted members take care of the verse. If a year is too long for some, maybe alter the rule to say that the account should have 6 months and x posts (though i think that 1 year + 1000 posts was good enough because it is very likely that someone has to have this amount of care to our wiki rules and forum rules to properly take care of this controversial verse).

If its something like this then it should be fine, though a year or 6 months appears to be too much. 3 months with 100 posts sounds plausible to me. Incase restriction is agreed upon.

 

[LostLightt]

why would u restrict a verse based on me making a thread with some help from vapes.

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Heres all the ss signifying my making of the thread.

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Theres even more where I say it's my crt.

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Theres even some more but my hb said the n word and his name is a slur so I aint gonna include them

 

[Agnaa]

U also ignored the context messages.

Because they're orders of magnitude less important as evidence.

Discord messages can be faked, or sent disingenuously to back up a lie you intend to tell.

On the other hand, the edit history of a page cannot be spoofed, and you cannot irrecoverably tamper with the posts you've made where you claimed that you originally pulled the scans from the profile, but that Vapourrrr replaced them since they were broken.

So if you can actually prove that (which would require you simply posting a single, relevant, broken imgur link that's already on the page; or posting even a single more line of this screenshot), I would believe you.

If you're not going to provide the evidence that is really easy to provide, and would actually prove your point, I am simply going to ignore the evidence that is harder to provide, and proves far less.

 

[LostLightt]

So if you can actually prove that (which would require you simply posting a single, relevant, broken imgur link that's already on the page

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Manjiro_Sano#Dark_Impulse:~:text=Has%20A%20Special%20Skill%20Called%20%22Disarticulation%22

Fixed by Vapes.

 

[Agnaa]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Manjiro_Sano#Dark_Impulse:~:text=Has%20A%20Special%20Skill%20Called%20%22Disarticulation%22

Fixed by Vapes.

Okay, that scan is broken. Which scan in the thread you posted was intending to fix that?

The thread you posted mentions disarticulation once:

Martial arts additions: Is capable of outskilling every notable delinquent in the verse, including 2 vs 1's on bad footing against expert fighters. Expert boxers, taekwondo users, judo users, capoeira users, and more. Is an expert at disarticulation of bones, paralysis and fights whilst holding back.

Which was done without an associated scan. The next scan posted was of Mikey being a kid genius, and the previous scan posted was about hitting Mikey being like punching a ghost.

If it would help you find it, this spoiler tag contains the entirety of the thread you posted:

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Mikey ability additions:

I'm in the UK so I can't see these scans, but I know they entail what I've typed since I've read the manga. So if ur gonna debate a specific scan, link it on ts site: https://postimages.org/

Resistance to Precognition: Despite big fat Takemichi having Precognition, Mikey was able to go from being unable to hit him to hitting him consistently and winning the fight.



Resistance to Enhanced Vision: Can easily blitz and hit big fat Hanma who has great kinetic vision.



Resistance to Analytical Prediction: Went from having all of his moves predicted by Izana to beating and outskilling him without any difficulty. Can easily blitz and hit Hanma who has great kinetic vision. Is vastly superior to Baji in skill whom is capable of killing people with expert boxing and analytical prediction skill.

https://imgur.com/a/GIrY8eO
https://imgur.com/a/di-mikey-vs-hanma-WTZfhCa
https://imgur.com/a/w7Ht83W
https://imgur.com/gallery/kid-mikey-genius-martial-artist-rk4XkCU
https://imgur.com/a/iUbBqqC
https://imgur.com/a/GLx8Gjp

Izana's "undefeatable senses" implies sight and hearing. Two of the 5 senses that make the most sense for the fight. Izana can hear and see Mikey's moves, despite this, he's unable to land a hit despite their stats not being far apart.

Instinctive Action: When in DI, doesn't know left from right or up from down. But is still able to fight at the level of god tiers.
https://imgur.com/a/LEecAU3

Limited resistance to paralysis inducement: Kakucho's punches left Chifuyu and Angry unable to move temporarily, yet had no effect on Mikey. Kakucho stated it was as if he was "punching a ghost" when hitting Mikey.

https://imgur.com/a/Hjg7RCV
https://imgur.com/a/Ym0Y3gl

Martial arts additions: Is capable of outskilling every notable delinquent in the verse, including 2 vs 1's on bad footing against expert fighters. Expert boxers, taekwondo users, judo users, capoeira users, and more. Is an expert at disarticulation of bones, paralysis and fights whilst holding back.

Mikey's kick at 4 years old where he unseals a bottle cap is an extraordinary feat. Due to age, the type of bottle cap, and skill. The best 4 year old martial arts feats include hitting small targets with kicks like a paddle, or a balloon. At 4 years old, regular people start to learn how to balance on one foot for a few seconds, Mikey however is able to balance on one leg, kick with one leg, perform acrobatic movements, and kick sealed cider bottle caps clean off, which is a feat beyond what skilled martial artists do, which is kicking a plastic lid off. Even then it's rarley kicked clean off. Therefore, Mikey's precision should be genius level, as well as his martial arts, remember he did ts at 4 and with one leg. As well as the following ability:

Superhuman precision: Angle snap kicked off a cider bottle cap whilst standing on one leg at 4 years old.

https://imgur.com/gallery/kid-mikey-genius-martial-artist-rk4XkCU

The 4 years old and one leg part makes this superhuman.

Superhuman precision: Can seperate bones with kicks/punches.

https://imgur.com/a/J3Xe1KR

 

[LostLightt]

Okay, that scan is broken. Which scan in the thread you posted was intending to fix that?

The thread you posted mentions disarticulation once:

Which was done without an associated scan. The next scan posted was of Mikey being a kid genius, and the previous scan posted was about hitting Mikey being like punching a ghost.

If it would help you find it, this spoiler tag contains the entirety of the thread you posted:

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Mikey ability additions:

I'm in the UK so I can't see these scans, but I know they entail what I've typed since I've read the manga. So if ur gonna debate a specific scan, link it on ts site: https://postimages.org/

Resistance to Precognition: Despite big fat Takemichi having Precognition, Mikey was able to go from being unable to hit him to hitting him consistently and winning the fight.



Resistance to Enhanced Vision: Can easily blitz and hit big fat Hanma who has great kinetic vision.



Resistance to Analytical Prediction: Went from having all of his moves predicted by Izana to beating and outskilling him without any difficulty. Can easily blitz and hit Hanma who has great kinetic vision. Is vastly superior to Baji in skill whom is capable of killing people with expert boxing and analytical prediction skill.

https://imgur.com/a/GIrY8eO
https://imgur.com/a/di-mikey-vs-hanma-WTZfhCa
https://imgur.com/a/w7Ht83W
https://imgur.com/gallery/kid-mikey-genius-martial-artist-rk4XkCU
https://imgur.com/a/iUbBqqC
https://imgur.com/a/GLx8Gjp

Izana's "undefeatable senses" implies sight and hearing. Two of the 5 senses that make the most sense for the fight. Izana can hear and see Mikey's moves, despite this, he's unable to land a hit despite their stats not being far apart.

Instinctive Action: When in DI, doesn't know left from right or up from down. But is still able to fight at the level of god tiers.
https://imgur.com/a/LEecAU3

Limited resistance to paralysis inducement: Kakucho's punches left Chifuyu and Angry unable to move temporarily, yet had no effect on Mikey. Kakucho stated it was as if he was "punching a ghost" when hitting Mikey.

https://imgur.com/a/Hjg7RCV
https://imgur.com/a/Ym0Y3gl

Martial arts additions: Is capable of outskilling every notable delinquent in the verse, including 2 vs 1's on bad footing against expert fighters. Expert boxers, taekwondo users, judo users, capoeira users, and more. Is an expert at disarticulation of bones, paralysis and fights whilst holding back.

Mikey's kick at 4 years old where he unseals a bottle cap is an extraordinary feat. Due to age, the type of bottle cap, and skill. The best 4 year old martial arts feats include hitting small targets with kicks like a paddle, or a balloon. At 4 years old, regular people start to learn how to balance on one foot for a few seconds, Mikey however is able to balance on one leg, kick with one leg, perform acrobatic movements, and kick sealed cider bottle caps clean off, which is a feat beyond what skilled martial artists do, which is kicking a plastic lid off. Even then it's rarley kicked clean off. Therefore, Mikey's precision should be genius level, as well as his martial arts, remember he did ts at 4 and with one leg. As well as the following ability:

Superhuman precision: Angle snap kicked off a cider bottle cap whilst standing on one leg at 4 years old.

https://imgur.com/gallery/kid-mikey-genius-martial-artist-rk4XkCU

The 4 years old and one leg part makes this superhuman.

Superhuman precision: Can seperate bones with kicks/punches.

https://imgur.com/a/J3Xe1KR

Idk I'm in the UK, I have to wait for vapes to reply so I can get it.

 

[LostLightt]

Here bro:

 

[Agnaa]

I see, fair enough then.

In that case, I'd lean towards undeleting the thread and letting it get evaluated on its own merits.

And I'd suggest that LostLightt should just post scans on websites they can access themselves in the future, instead of relying on someone else posting it on Imgur.

 

[FinePoint]

I essentially agree with Agnaa, barring some absurd scenario where Vzearr is somehow emulating two people and also avoiding sockpuppet detection.

I think it's clear that even though they're friends with Vzearr they did make their own arguments here (and the writing styles reflect that).

I also wouldn't support re-banning the verse yet. I'd consider this 2/3 strikes at worst.