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prove it instead of ya claims
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Tokyo Revengers: Removing Anime Feats
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mb jit that sounded rude i aint mean it, was just excited cause i got sum good news, aight?
Demon_Lord18
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How reliable is the information on this website? It’s a fan-made site; it would be good if they stated where the information comes from.
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Wakui supervises all of his shi, he supervised the spinoff mangas, his games, and even the movies. ur assuming he's not gonna supervise the most important part to a manga.
The anime is faithful
sources state its supervised and some state its closely supervised
liden films stays faithful to every manga they animate
Theres more sources from the producers saying wakui wanted and knew his anime would be adapted. Implying he was involved in its adaptation
Tokyo Revengers Manga Was Inspired By 'Re: Zero' and 'Erased'
According to a recent interview with Yahoo News, the Tokyo Revengers manga was inspired by other big works such as 'Re: Zero' and 'Erased'.
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The rules regarding the canon material state this. You can find them in the pinned thread here, but you’ve already been told and shown this several times.
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How many times will u be shown evidence and ignore it, mate
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Could you ping the message where you provided Wakui’s direct statement? Because the current rules require this, even if the OP didn’t present it properly, that doesn’t change the rules.
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The only place that claims he supervised the anime is a fan site that does not provide the source of this information. I don’t see this as valid, especially since the official anime website lists him only as the original creator of the work, and not as the director (who oversees the entire production) or as responsible for the Series Composition or the script.
Do you have any verifiable citation that confirms the accuracy of the claim that he supervised Tokyo Revengers games?
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false, theres several more, i've discussed before
jst say u cant accept the verse having a canon anime when theres 10 different things pointing to it
when the official website doesn't put you as one of the directors but also dont put you as the character designer when its ur character designs that you've coloured before too
theres like several more
Brand New Smartphone Game Tokyo Revengers UNLIMITED Officially Launches! Includes a Fully Newly Written Long-Form Story - Saiga NAK
Good Smile Company, Inc. has officially launched the smartphone game Tokyo Revengers UNLIMITED, developed and operated by f4samurai, Inc., for iOS and Android devices.
saiganak.com
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if u didn't read my replies why are you responding to them
Demon_Lord18
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The site you shared does not state that he supervised the anime; it only mentions that the manga was inspired by ERASED and Re:Zero, and highlights the author’s wish for his work to be adapted into an anime (which is something most mangaka aspire to).
The character designer is the one who adapts the manga characters to the animation style. Therefore, there is no reason for their name to be listed under character designer.
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thats not the only one, theres several more, pls dive into it more
in total about 2 sites directly stating it, with one implying it really heavily
thats not what character design is defined as
Lilybitdun
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This one specifically notes the game is set in a different world line from the animetheres like several more
Brand New Smartphone Game Tokyo Revengers UNLIMITED Officially Launches! Includes a Fully Newly Written Long-Form Story - Saiga NAK
Good Smile Company, Inc. has officially launched the smartphone game Tokyo Revengers UNLIMITED, developed and operated by f4samurai, Inc., for iOS and Android devices.
So like this doesn't help with anything anime related
And again mere supervision doesn't mean anything with the new canon guidelines
As DemonLord pointed out the other sites you linked are fan sites that don't cite a source
Edit: An author wanting to see their series get an adaptation also doesn't mean anything about canonicity
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I'll tell you now to refrain from this behavior, you're all free to tackle specific aspects of arguments but making claims like this because people don't agree with you or for any other reason isn't acceptable.
Its in the OP and its very evidently very much different, this isn't a real argument
Untrue, the actual bit being calculated literally does not exist in any capacity in the original work.
This is irrelevant to the calcs at hand.
This isn't enough evidence to say the anime is the primary canon by our standards?
Synchronize says it best here
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no it aint, u saying it aint a real argument dont make it an argument. the WHOLE FIGHT IS IN THE MANGA, the anime expands on it, stop tryna lie
untrue, the fight exists the anime shows the fight, and even the part of him doing the feat just in more detail
u claimed hes comp to no names LOL
LOL, i gave you several sources, several indicators, jst say u aint wanna accept it cause i gave u so much evidence, dont lie
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Here's a source that's fine to accept: Ken Wakui directly stating in an interview that the anime is his true vision of the work, or other flowery stuff like that.
And no, I don't need some wiki, I need a direct interview with the man.
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the wiki is a translation of his interviews...
it's hard to find translated interviews and u have to rely on wikis, dk whats confusing abt that
1 source saying he supervised it
1 source saying he directly supervised it heavily
1 source implying he supervised it heavily
and many more.
along with that the anime is faithful to a tea, and liden films is always faithful with they adaptations
so u've been given enough proof
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@LostLightt So, no, it's not sufficient. Supervising is not a show of canonicity. "Faithful" is not a show of canonicity. Attack on Titan went through hell to get it's anime as canon and it literally has what's needed for anime being primary canon.
Look on the bright side though mate, you have an excuse to just make anime profiles for Tokyo Revengers.
Look on the bright side though mate, you have an excuse to just make anime profiles for Tokyo Revengers.
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its okay to admit ur wrong, but its not okay to ignore evidence
3 sources state its supervised with one saying it's CLOSELY SUPERVISED
its faithful to a tee
liden films is consistently producing faithful animations
I'm not saying one thing here proves it, i'm saying according to the page on vsbw, all ts combined is valid.
Sorry bud
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Let me just...
For an actual explanantion: Evidence that does not align with wiki standard is not evidence. This will be the case forever.
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I am still in agreement with Dale here.
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Would you be able to ping a third staff here? Nearly everyone is in agreement of the thread, just waiting for a third vote due to TR being a controversial verse
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idk how ur gonna argue against evidence saying he directly heavily supervised the anime.
he even supervised the chibi anime: https://baike.baidu.com/en/item/Tokyo Revengers/1559713
so ur just gonna ignore the 3 sources, several faithfulness, ect?
dude who made the rule implied my shi would be valid
Classroom Of The Elite: Anime Canocity
Due to recent changes in the canonicity of anime, manga, and their adaptations, I think this is something that should definitely be discussed: Is the anime Classroom of the Elite canon to the main story? Here are interview scans regarding Shōgo Kinugasa and his opinion on the anime. This...
tr is adapted word for word
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You have been told
By multiple staff
And normal users
That supervising the anime
Is not canonicity proof
By our standards.
If that's a problem, make a site wide CRT.
except it's not, it ADDS scenes. Canonicity word for word is not just "oh everything happens", word for word is "Everything is the same as the Manga just animated".so ur just gonna ignore the 3 sources, several faithfulness, ect?
dude who made the rule implied my shi would be valid
Classroom Of The Elite: Anime Canocity
Due to recent changes in the canonicity of anime, manga, and their adaptations, I think this is something that should definitely be discussed: Is the anime Classroom of the Elite canon to the main story? Here are interview scans regarding Shōgo Kinugasa and his opinion on the anime. This...vsbattles.com
tr is adapted word for word
If it is an addition to an existing fight, then it ceases being word for word. An extra shot? Not word for word. An extra part of a fight? Not word for word.
"Go to hell" and "Go to hell dickwad" is not word for word, ya can't have anything going against it, espeically not consistently and ESPEICALLY not when the additions are what's getting calced.
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cote literally does the same thing, they add scenes change words but it's still accepted
and i neva said supervsing the anime is canonicity proof
i said EVERYTHING COMBNIED is proof, and its' hard for u to deny it on any grounds
which ur doin
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Then get it unaccepted with scans and evidence showing that. I am an equal opportunity hater, and two wrongs don't make a right.
If 80% of the stuff is dogshit and 20% is bland pasta, all you're gonna be tasting is dogshit. And the pasta really isn't standing on it's own.
My final answer is agreeing with this thread and thus disagreeing with you. I have no interest in dealing with stonewalling based off of misconceptions.
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ur the one stonewalling
theres no evidence contradicting the canon thats reinforce heavily by several sources
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N O means no.
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Ye, ur saying the evidence is dogshit, but thats not a good analogy, it's more like one snowflake is in and of itself small, but several creates a larger more impressive ball
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whats so hard bout agreeing with an analogy thats obv sound
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Reaper, don't reply to him
You already know he's stonewalling, it's just gonna clog up the thread
You already know he's stonewalling, it's just gonna clog up the thread
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who does ts bloke think he's talkin to, i aint stone wallin shi, bugger off if ur gonna insult me without substantiation mate
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Yeah yeah, but one more for the road
I fixed that for ya.
Jokes aside, if it was "obv sound", you wouldn't be 0-2 on evaluation staff who agree with you vs disagree. Like I said, final answer, so...
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i'll accept ur final answer with great sadness and painYeah yeah, but one more for the road
I fixed that for ya.
Jokes aside, if it was "obv sound", you wouldn't be 0-2 on evaluation staff who agree with you vs disagree. Like I said, final answer, so...
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Please don't misgender me, that's uncalled for
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mb jit, dont accuse me of misgendering u tho, i aint mean it
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I don't think anyone's here opposing use of anime for feats from manga but with better visualization of feat, use of timeframe, etc. The fact that anime adapts 1:1 for everything else that's shown in manga just lets you to use anime version for them, that's not gonna work for additional scenes.
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Most of the calcs are jank on the fact that they either use outdated values (Like glass destruction, we don't use glass destruction values at all anymore because they don't conform with our simplified standards for destruction values in general, couple that with the fact that junkyard cars might have the windshield be in deteriorating condition) or use methods that are a huge no-no against standards (Like smacking someone with a bat and sending them flying at high speeds and trying to derive LS from that).
Even the speed feats could possibly be inflated based on bad visuals or gross violations of our slow-mo rules.
The human throwing feats are also kinda sketch, as we have rules against using throwing feats for normal-weight people (Gotta be at least the weight of a motorbike or heavier to qualify now).
The explosion calc is also egregiously wrong, the car's bodywork is more or less untouched - this is just deflagration of gasoline inside the car (Which I don't have to tell you, is UNUSABLE).
The feats obviously not being 1:1 to the manga is a huge factor, but the above problems I believe are far, far bigger issues than us using tertiary canon.
Even the speed feats could possibly be inflated based on bad visuals or gross violations of our slow-mo rules.
The human throwing feats are also kinda sketch, as we have rules against using throwing feats for normal-weight people (Gotta be at least the weight of a motorbike or heavier to qualify now).
The explosion calc is also egregiously wrong, the car's bodywork is more or less untouched - this is just deflagration of gasoline inside the car (Which I don't have to tell you, is UNUSABLE).
The feats obviously not being 1:1 to the manga is a huge factor, but the above problems I believe are far, far bigger issues than us using tertiary canon.
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nc debunks, you stated not a single math issue, other than the explosion calc
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