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PTJ Universe - CQC Multiplier

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Because it was stated that the CQC technique can greatly enhance the user's strength, and can increase it by up to 100 times if the user has a unique style, even to the point of becoming infinitely stronger, this CRT was created to be used for upgrading the strength of characters in future CRTs

The CQC technique can greatly enhance the user's strength with only a slight change in stance, so I think characters who use CQC should receive at least a 3x multiplier, similar to this CRT

CQC with a unique personal style was stated to be able to increase strength by up to 100 times, and this was mentioned and confirmed twice, so I think characters with their own unique CQC style should receive a 100x multiplier ( Feat 1 & 2 )

I think this multiplier should apply not only to AP and LS, but also to Speed. I will provide the following examples

MK Vs Boram
At the beginning of the fight between MK and Boram, we can see that Boram was able to react to MK's speed and even attack him. However, once MK used his personal CQC style, "White Night," he was able to defeat Boram with ease

Warren Vs Minsik
At first, Warren Chae could not react to Minsik's speed at all. He was overwhelmed by Minsik and thought he was going to lose. However, once Warren Chae used CQC, he was able to react to Minsik's speed and defeat him easily

MK Vs Minhyuk
At first, both of their speeds were at a level where they could react to each other, but once MK used CQC, he was able to defeat Minhyuk very quickly

Conclusion : Characters with CQC should receive at least a 3x multiplier, while characters with their own unique CQC style should receive a 100x multiplier. This multiplier should apply to AP, LS, and Speed

Agree : BlackCat , Pyro9278 ( only agree with the 3x multiplier ) , Viott ( Same as Pyro9278 ) , Foriaa ( Same as Pyro9278 ) , Gamin_Yoon23 ( Same as Pyro9278 ) , Aksh_sky ( Same as Pyro9278 ) , Soul80 ( Same as Pyro9278 ) , RealDuker98 ( Same as Pyro9278 ) , GrayCraft_Dragon ( Same as Pyro9278 ) , Kirua29 ( Same as Pyro9278 ) , ArrestedForRobbery ( Same as Pyro9278 ) , Starfall-Endowment ( Same as Pyro9278 ) , Reiner04 ( Same as Pyro9278 ) , Keshirou ( Same as Pyro9278 ) , Random-Helper323 ( Same as Pyro9278 )

Neutral : CatLover313 , Aksh_sky ( Neutral on the 100× multiplier )

Disagree : BestMGQScalerEver , ManhwaGrace
 
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I agree with the 3× multiplier because CQC has been repeatedly stated and shown to make them stronger and faster. As for the 100× multiplier, I also agree since they clearly demonstrate that they can win easily when using their unique CQC style.
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
Are you sure 100x stronger is not just hyperbole for being really strong. That's quite a big gap. Even a 3x multiplier can allow someone to fodderize another. Imo it's just a skill thing rather than a multiplier
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Yes, but since the characters stated twice that they could become up to 100 times stronger, and also stated twice that they could become infinitely stronger, I think it is at least somewhat reliable
 
I believe the 100x multiplier shouldn't be applied, as we're talking about a boost that would make Warren and MK from 9-A to High-8+ several times stronger than the current top players just for that reason alone, not to mention the speed they would have.

I think, to be more precise, the CQC multiplier should be 3x; however, it should be applied in a specific way. For example, speed would be increased per burst, and AP/Durability would only be "Higher with CQC [Insert AP/Durability value]" since CQC isn't always active.
 
Pyro9278 said:
I believe the 100x multiplier shouldn't be applied, as we're talking about a boost that would make Warren and MK from 9-A to High-8+ several times stronger than the current top players just for that reason alone, not to mention the speed they would have.

I think, to be more precise, the CQC multiplier should be 3x; however, it should be applied in a specific way. For example, speed would be increased per burst, and AP/Durability would only be "Higher with CQC [Insert AP/Durability value]" since CQC isn't always active.
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Viott said:
I agree 3x, but I don't agree with the 100x multiplier for now.
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Added to the voting results already
 
pretty sure in this thread, only words like “several” and “many” times were valid for multipliers. I also asked if “dramatically increase” could count as a multiplier but was told it was a “unquantifiable increase”. I’ll remain neutral for now as I wouldn’t be against “greatly enhance/increase” giving a multiplier but it would definitely start effecting other verses.
 
Disagree with 100x. It does seem hyperbolic and in regards to hyperbole, 100x seems to be the generic statement across most action based fiction. But if it’s stated again and consistent but not in a hyperbolic sense I don’t see why a 100x multiplier would be out of reach. Agree with 3x
 
Deffinately agree with 3x.

But 100x seems kinda whacky because these statements looks hyperbolic and a 100x multiplier could create inconsistcies in the story, but knowing how massive the power difference is in Tom's percentage, it's actually pretty confusing. But I'll remain neutral with the 100x.
 
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BestMGQScalerEver said:
Are you sure 100x stronger is not just hyperbole for being really strong. That's quite a big gap. Even a 3x multiplier can allow someone to fodderize another. Imo it's just a skill thing rather than a multiplier
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This. I think what you can say he is "far stronger" than before when he uses CQC and consider him comparable to the characters who would stomp him w/o CQC.
 
Reiner04 said:
This. I think what you can say he is "far stronger" than before when he uses CQC and consider him comparable to the characters who would stomp him w/o CQC.
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So you do not agree with the 3x multiplier and the 100x multiplier then?
 
ManhwaGrace said:
Disagree with the 3x and 100x multiplier.

How does "greatly" translate to 3x?
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OP mentions that the increase is consistent with several fights where CQC has been used and the opponent is immediately overwhelmed.
Reiner04 said:
Yup
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I think at least the 3x speed increase in bursts should be considered since it shows that CQC works with reaction and bursts of attacks instead of all speed in general.
 
Pyro9278 said:
OP mentions that the increase is consistent with several fights where CQC has been used and the opponent is immediately overwhelmed.

I think at least the 3x speed increase in bursts should be considered since it shows that CQC works with reaction and bursts of attacks instead of all speed in general.
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I can agree that 3× burst sounds logical, but from standard point if view we need specific statement to establish the numerical multiplier, not the guesswork or logical deduction. Thats why i think keeping it as "Far higher than before" should be fine.
 
ManhwaGrace said:
But you're making a multiplier up.
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Because I am not very good at English, but from what I understand, the word "greatly" should mean at least a 2x increase. And from what MK and Boram said about it increasing by 100 times up to infinite levels, I think a 3x multiplier can also be accepted, similar to the CRT for TUI Gun
 
Pxnd_013 said:
Because I am not very good at English, but from what I understand, the word "greatly" should mean at least a 2x increase. And from what MK and Boram said about it increasing by 100 times up to infinite levels, I think a 3x multiplier can also be accepted, similar to the CRT for TUI Gun
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Greatly is unquantifiable. I don't know about the CRT for TUI Gun.
 
Reiner04 said:
I can agree that 3× burst sounds logical, but from standard point if view we need specific statement to establish the numerical multiplier, not the guesswork or logical deduction. Thats why i think keeping it as "Far higher than before" should be fine.
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It is true that we do not know the exact multiplier, but we can still estimate a minimum multiplier, similar to the CRT for TUI GUN. However, thank you for your evaluation 🙏
 
ManhwaGrace said:
Greatly is unquantifiable. I don't know about the CRT for TUI Gun.
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Oh, I just learned that. But even if it cannot be quantified exactly, we can still estimate a minimum value. I think a minimum of 3× would not be too high or too low, because even in the story, Boram initially stated, "UPGRADE ITS POWER TEN-- NO, HUNDRED FOLDS." This would mean that even 10× for Boram would still be considered far too low. However, since I think that may be too much, I set the minimum at 3×
 
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