[ACCEPTED] Lookism CRT: Character Upgrades + Kitae Kim New Abilities and Profile Fix

[Foriaa]

As said above, I will be waiting for a mod to evaluate the thread, so I will not be engaging.

 

[Pyro9278]

I think we can call the moderators now, as everything has been discussed.

 

[CatLover313]

I think we can call the moderators now, as everything has been discussed.

I’ll be on my laptop in an hour or two so I’ll look through all the comments, make any easy fixes, try to count any supporter votes, and put a little PS on the post to tell staff what debating “issues” there is. I’ll contact staff afterwards

 

[Reiner04]

Take a closer look at the message I sent. James thinks he would struggle against Tui Gun & PB Ui Daniel. At a conservative estimate, we can say that in Cheonliang, James has low end relativity, so attaching a "likely" to it for that key would make sense.

Unless there's a ruling that states absolute explicit a > b statements are required and that we can't use a fraction of our brain to deduce scaling, I don't find the "likely" rating convincing.

I agree with foriaa here

 

[CatLover313]

I agree with foriaa here

So a "Likely" rating for James scaling, how about Gun's TUI scaling, and any thoughts on the rest of the post?

 

[Reiner04]

So a "Likely" rating for James scaling, how about Gun's TUI scaling, and any thoughts on the rest of the post?

Likely for before Cheonryang days James Lee. Current James Lee should scale fully.

I will comment on rest before tomorrow.

 

[Pyro9278]

Then it should be described as follows:

Cheonliang Arc: At least 9-A+, higher with Awakening, higher than 9-A+, possibly High 8-C

Current: At least High 8-C, possibly higher with his Path.

I think the only thing I would change is the LS, giving it a Class 100 instead of scaling directly to Class K, since James isn't a grappling wrestler. Class 100 for his current hold only.

 

[Foriaa]

Then it should be described as follows:

Cheonliang Arc: At least 9-A+, higher with Awakening, higher than 9-A+, possibly High 8-C

Current: At least High 8-C, possibly higher with his Path.

I think the only thing I would change is the LS, giving it a Class 100 instead of scaling directly to Class K, since James isn't a grappling wrestler. Class 100 for his current hold only.

Perfect.

 

[Reiner04]

UI gun should also scale fully since he was able to overwhelm UI PB Daniel. Rest looks ok.

 

[CatLover313]

Put the vote there for now with the comments he gave, I’ll try to simplify it tomorrow in the morning

 

[CatLover313]

Bump

 

[CatLover313]

Bump

 

[Black_Cat49]

Do we still need one more staff vote at this point?

 

[Black_Cat49]

Daniel Park True Body:

• Make a new key for him as he received a power-up in Chapter 600. We can just call it the "current" key for now.
• Upgrades:
  • Attack Potency/Striking Strength: At least 9-A+, higher with Path, High 8-C+ with Ultra Instinct (Able to damage Kitae Kim multiple times)
  • Durability: At least High 8-C (Could take many hits from Kitae Kim, some of them empowered by Strength Mastery, before eventually being knocked out), higher in Ultra Instinct
  • Lifting Strength: At least Class 25 (Same as previous key), likely higher, Class K in Ultra Instinct (Was able to copy Perfect Body Daniel Park in UI Mode, albeit it was destroying his body along the way)

Why don’t we include this ability in his Key: Achieving Path, since the ability comes from using his Path?

 

[Aksh_sky]

There'd be more charecters scaling to it as I'll make a crt myself regarding this because i have arguements for even lower tier charecters like Zack and Vasco to scale to this and ofc Gun aswell due to how casual the feat was from Old Gap because it was just the shockwave of the punch that did that 8-C feat and version of Gap was also WAYYY weaker than prime Gap + that was just a normal punch and not even conviction one.

Also Gap's LS could scale to Igor and be Class M since he has narritive over the verse but I'll include everything else in details in my crt.

I'll likely make another crt but for now I'll wait till the MK CQC multiplier gets accepted.

 

[CatLover313]

Do we still need one more staff vote at this point?

Yes

 

[CatLover313]

Why don’t we include this ability in his Key: Achieving Path, since the ability comes from using his Path?

At most, it would be durability High 8-C but that version before his chapter 600 was rag dolled by Kitae and couldn’t do anything meaningful. Chapter 600 shows that he gained some sort of powerup so anything he did that chapter and then on can’t be used for his previous keys

There'd be more charecters scaling to it as I'll make a crt myself regarding this because i have arguements for even lower tier charecters like Zack and Vasco to scale to this and ofc Gun aswell due to how casual the feat was from Old Gap because it was just the shockwave of the punch that did that 8-C feat and version of Gap was also WAYYY weaker than prime Gap + that was just a normal punch and not even conviction one.

Also Gap's LS could scale to Igor and be Class M since he has narritive over the verse but I'll include everything else in details in my crt.

Don’t really want to get into the first one as we had an entire thread already about that and don’t want to clog this one up too. For the second part, narrative isn’t usually enough justification as that can be interpreted in many ways (especially since Igor is literally scaleless). James got upscaled mainly because of his Cheonliang statement.

 

[Pyro9278]

There'd be more charecters scaling to it as I'll make a crt myself regarding this because i have arguements for even lower tier charecters like Zack and Vasco to scale to this and ofc Gun aswell due to how casual the feat was from Old Gap because it was just the shockwave of the punch that did that 8-C feat and version of Gap was also WAYYY weaker than prime Gap + that was just a normal punch and not even conviction one.

Please don't break the verse with another High 8-C for everyone.

I feel like we could create a more consistent scale if we used conservative parts of the ranking instead of saying "it's Old Gap, anyone can rank" (Yeah... Jinyoung is also old and I don't see him as insignificant). By the way, the current CRT doesn't focus on that, but if you could go and comment on it in the general discussion thread, that would be great.

 

[CatLover313]

Bump

 

[CatLover313]

Bump

 

[CatLover313]

Bump

 

[Reiner04]

@LordGriffin1000 @DarkDragonMedeus @Random-Helper323 @Dalesean027 @FinePoint

Your opinion here will be appreciated.

 

[Elizhaa]

I share similar thoughts to Reiner's evaluations.

 

[CatLover313]

Yay, 2 votes, I’ll start applying in an hour

 

[CatLover313]

Finished applying, I'll ask someone to close this thread