Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Electronic74947]

The issue isn't the fact that it's a cylinder alone, but also the height used and the hollowness imo. The height used is literally the tallest building in the area which skews the volume considering none of the other buildings are that height either and the blast goes outside the main city area and into areas where most of the buildings are like 4 stories tall. Then it uses 90% hollowness which would be incredibly low for the area/volume it assumes.

Curious, is the volume destroyed just cause of wiki rules cause it's occupies more volume that it destroys anywats

 

[BiggestOpp]

The issue isn't the fact that it's a cylinder alone, but also the height used and the hollowness imo. The height used is literally the tallest building in the area which skews the volume considering none of the other buildings are that height either and the blast goes outside the main city area and into areas where most of the buildings are like 4 stories tall. Then it uses 90% hollowness which would be incredibly low for the area/volume it assumes.

Yeah I remember having issues like that with the Dabura calc. Would finding the average for a height and using a higher hollowness be better? Maybe it’d be too low to even matter atp

 

[Arkenis]

Question, If Anime Specific Profiles actually happen where would the AP Scale?

5b

 

[Electronic74947]

Yeah I remember having issues like that with the Dabura calc. Would finding the average for a height and using a higher hollowness be better? Maybe it’d be too low to even matter atp

Too low since the ball is massively bigger than what is destroyed.


The dabura calc has an irl location too, I think it's radius was also 780 meters which is creepily similar.

 

[Electronic74947]

 

[BiggestOpp]

Too low since the ball is massively bigger than what is destroyed.

The size of the ball doesn’t matter for what was destroyed does it?

The dabura calc has an irl location too, I think its radius was also 780 meters which is creepily similar.

Are you mistaken?

 

[Electronic74947]

The size of the ball doesn’t matter for what was destroyed does it?

No, that wasn't my point lol

Are you mistaken?

no it was 700 ish last i checked, i posted the images of the irl location earlier

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Curious, is the volume destroyed just cause of wiki rules cause it's occupies more volume that it destroys anywats

What we're trying to calculate for destruction values is the volume of the stuff destroyed, calculating what HP covered would be an estimate of what's destroyed. It's why hollowness is accounted for but the calc underestimates the hollowness and that in tandem with the higher volume leads to higher and inaccurate results.

Yeah I remember having issues like that with the Dabura calc. Would finding the average for a height and using a higher hollowness be better? Maybe it’d be too low to even matter atp

Maybe but it would be hard to estimate given the disparity of the building sizes, ie using half of the tallest building would still be a large degree higher still than the majority of buildings. If more of the buildings were similar sizes maybe but even in the city area itself not all the buildings are that size and some are a lot smaller.

Probably "easiest" way to do it and get accurate results would be to do something like in that one shibuya fuga calc where we try to get the dimensions of the larger buildings, calc their volume, do the hollowness stuff for that, then calc an estimate of the rest of the area and get that volume with a separate hollowness to account for the extra empty space (ie streets and stuff). Is that the easiest way? No. Is it probably the most accurate way? Also probably no cause the accurate way would be figuring out literally every building. Though it's probably the easiest accurate way.

Also take what I'm saying with a grain of salt cause its 3 am where I am and I could be talking out my ass on how to do this.

 

[Electronic74947]

Also do we accept hanami growing trees as part of her output or nah?

 

[Electronic74947]

Probably "easiest" way to do it and get accurate results would be to do something like in that one shibuya fuga calc where we try to get the dimensions of the larger buildings, calc their volume, do the hollowness stuff for that, then calc an estimate of the rest of the area and get that volume with a separate hollowness to account for the extra empty space (ie streets and stuff). Is that the easiest way? No. Is it probably the most accurate way? Also probably no cause the accurate way would be figuring out literally every building. Though it's probably the easiest accurate way.

700 meter diameter man ain't nobody got time for that.


Could use shockwave formula but meh

What we're trying to calculate for destruction values is the volume of the stuff destroyed, calculating what HP covered would be an estimate of what's destroyed. It's why hollowness is accounted for but the calc underestimates the hollowness and that in tandem with the higher volume leads to higher and inaccurate results.

Yeah I know that, my question was that why isn't the entire volume of the ball considered instead of just the buildings. I assume it's just wiki rules cause it's not like the ball doesn't have energy where there's no building

 

[PowerToScale]

Can someone explain why this https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:PowerToScale/Jujutsu_Kaisen:_Hollow_Purple_Shinjuku uses a cylinder when it's spherical?

because I was dumb.

Probably had fuga on my mind or something because it's a cylinder

 

[Electronic74947]

because I was dumb.

Probably had fuga on my mind or something because it's a cylinder

You're alive?

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

700 meter diameter man ain't nobody got time for that.

Which is why I put easiest in quotes lol

Also its mostly the city area I'm talking about, aka the area with the biggest buildings which is like a dozen or two buildings that would have to be calc'd then the rest could probably be averaged.

Yeah I know that, my question was that why isn't the entire volume of the ball considered instead of just the buildings. I assume it's just wiki rules cause it's not like the ball doesn't have energy where there's no building

Because we're only calculating the destruction of the buildings. Everything else would be basically extreme guesswork to try and apply values to the empty space

because I was dumb.

Probably had fuga on my mind or something because it's a cylinder

It do be like that sometimes

 

[AguilaR202]

Im not, sure, shouldn’t something like inverse square law be better in this case, or even explosion air burst formula? It behaves like an omnidirectional blast.

 

[Electronic74947]

Im not, sure, shouldn’t something like inverse square law be better in this case, or even explosion air burst formula? It behaves like an omnidirectional blast.

got 100 kilotons iirc with inverse square law

airburst is ((0.78119/0.28)^3)/1000 = 21.716805 kilotons

both of which are lower than the black hole

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Im not, sure, shouldn’t something like inverse square law be better in this case, or even explosion air burst formula? It behaves like an omnidirectional blast.

cough cough

 

[Arkenis]

cough cough

19 tons is pretty good.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

19 tons is pretty good.

Sukuna downgrade when

 

[Sus]

kashimo vs maki

 

[Zabazab]

She don't even need Split Soul Katana

 

[BiggestOpp]

kashimo vs maki

Imagine Hakari vs Kashimo but Hakari has one hit KO power over Kashimo

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

maki glaze when Toji's going high diff with kashimo...

 

[Zabazab]

Maki is stronger than Toji. But Toji would also kill Kashimo very easily.

 

[LIGHTYW]

Maki is stronger than Toji. But Toji would also kill Kashimo very easily.

KASHIMO WAS THROWING HANDS WITH GOJO DURING MONTH TRAINING BUDDY.

 

[Ozcantabak]

Should i edit Yuta's cleve from "Adaptation" to "Limited Information Analysis and Limited Damage Boost/Reduction", it seems like his profile was missed when applying the crt.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

KASHIMO WAS THROWING HANDS WITH GOJO DURING MONTH TRAINING BUDDY.

Son...
I don't mind some kashimo glaze over the black flash farm and maki leacher but bro is NOT boxing with gojo in base...or in mba

 

[Sus]

KASHIMO WAS THROWING HANDS WITH GOJO DURING MONTH TRAINING BUDDY.

not even glaze atp

 

[Electronic74947]

How powerful would a full potential sukuna be?

 

[Arkenis]

Bare minimum H6A. If we use full potential as in he gains every aspect other high tiers have, I could see him painting his domain across all of Japan.

 

[Electronic74947]

Bare minimum H6A. If we use full potential as in he gains every aspect other high tiers have, I could see him painting his domain across all of Japan.

Hypothetically. Considering that BV was to limit WCS to hand signs anf chants in True form. Wouldn't he Hypothetically be able yo create a net with just handsigns had gojo died in purple?

 

[Mommyleona]

Should i edit Yuta's cleve from "Adaptation" to "Limited Information Analysis and Limited Damage Boost/Reduction", it seems like his profile was missed when applying the crt.

sure, just link the crt

 

[Sus]

Hypothetically. Considering that BV was to limit WCS to hand signs anf chants in True form. Wouldn't he Hypothetically be able yo create a net with just handsigns had gojo died in purple?

yes
normally it would have required 2 hands
the BV made it require 3 hands + incantations

 

[Arkenis]

Hypothetically. Considering that BV was to limit WCS to hand signs anf chants in True form. Wouldn't he Hypothetically be able yo create a net with just handsigns had gojo died in purple?

Probably. He could probably apply it to his domain too

 

[Sus]

if mahoraga cut gojos head instead of arm, it would have been prime sukuna right there

• can go into his perfect body
• unrestricted WCS
• still has the ten shadows technique with mahoraga himself having WCS too
• his cursed tool too ig

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

"Prime sukuna" and he still can't open his domain cuz of UV and weakened RCT (He still solos everyone, don't get it twisted)

 

[Sus]

"Prime sukuna" and he still can't open his domain cuz of UV and weakened RCT (He still solos everyone, don't get it twisted)

i meant as he has the most abilities, because when he gained one of those he lost the other

and his domain and RCT can be recovered eventually anyway

 

[Ozcantabak]

sure, just link the crt

Done.

 

[Electronic74947]

if mahoraga cut gojos head instead of arm, it would have been prime sukuna right there

• can go into his perfect body
• unrestricted WCS
• still has the ten shadows technique with mahoraga himself having WCS too
• his cursed tool too ig

Unc could been a good op in crossverse for once

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Unc could been a good op in crossverse for once

Tecnically, you can give Meguna Access to WCS and Raga WCS in matchups

 

[Sus]

might be a dumb question but why didn't sukuna immediately use world cutting slash? like why did bro wait till mahoraga died

he had an opening when gojo was gonna use red, gojo would have probably thought sukuna is gonna use domain expansion or smth