(3 staffs agreed) The Auditor's profile revamp + explanation of the fundamental Logic in the series (Madness Combat)

[Employe]

Old profile

New one

Blog explaining logic in the series (spoiler: it has nothing to do with Logic Manipulation, at least not for now)

What I added to The Auditor
All for his first key:
Pocket Reality Manipulation and Dimensional Travel (Is a living avatar and gateway to his own personal hell which is why Tricky was able to access his dimension after The Auditor absorbed him. Consistently shown travelling between Nevada and his own dimension[2][8]. Seemingly appeared from another dimension into Nevada to personally meet Jebediah Christoff[12].)

Abstract Existence (Type 1) (Information Type 2; The Auditor is a creature constructed from the very fabric of logic[7] which is a fundamental building blog that makes up all of universe including narrative, and space-time with fate and causality. The Auditor is meant to audit the unimaginably vast output of The Machine[7]. His body also was shown to have an information themed nature[8].)

• Nonexistent Physiology (Type 1. Aspects 1, 3 and 5; Is constructed from the very fabric of logic which is the same with The Machine who represents all of existence and nonexistence where nothing exists except for fundamental logic, which means that he lacks of S-3LF that is depicted to contain or be mind[9], essence, life energy and soul[10].)
• Immortality (Types 1, 3, 4, & 9) and Limited Regeneration (Low-High; His body was destroyed and turned into a pool of energy when he absorbed and was hijacked by Tricky who is filled with dissonant reality which is a destructive force that can warp and strip away logic from whatever contacts with it, with logic including and making up information, space-time and fate with the causality,[6] but despite this he later managed to reconstruct and revive himself from nothing just with some minor scars on his back[2]. The Auditor's true self is an alive dimension which exists beyond body that we can see as displayed by posters on which he tells "HE CAN'T BE INSIDE ME" addressed to Tricky the Clown who has been spreading mayhem in this dimension)
• Selective Intangibility (Despite Hank being able to physically touch The Auditor, he was capable to avoid his grab by breaking into intangible mist[6])
• Flight (True flight. When shapeshifting he can fly[6]. Including being able to attack when flying by spitting fire[6])
• Weapon Control (Can seemingly restructure composition of his own sword when wants so[6])

• Mind Manipulation (People corrupted by The Auditor appear to be far more fanatical and aggressive about eliminating The Auditor's enemies to the point of completely disregarding their own wellbeing[6])

I added healing to his absorption

• Absorption
  
  • Statistics Amplification and Healing (Can absorb the bodies of others to make himself stronger[12]. Can absorb bodies to heal his wounds[6])
  • Size Manipulation (Absorbing bodies causes him to grow in size[12])

Also give direct sources on his BFR

• BFR (Expelled both Hank and Sanford from his dimension back into Nevada after they killed Tricky[2]. Later he sent Sanford's body to enter it again[8])

For his halo key I just copypasted content from Jeb's page

For his drive key:

• Statistics Amplification and Power Bestowal (He slightly enhanced raw stats of his agents with The Improbability Drive[21])

For his dimension/true form:

• Fate Manipulation and Causality Manipulation (It has been said that Higher Powers choose path through which mortals go in their lives and The Auditor specifically was claimed to manage the causality itself.)

Added sources on some abilities:

• Healing & Cyborgization (Healed Hank's wounds, including his brain and body, which had be pierced by spikes moments before, and completely restored his ripped arm by replacing it with a perfect metal replica in the span of at most a few minutes.[2])
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• Enhanced Corruption (Type 1; His power was able to corrupt Hank who previously resisted it and was capable to resist dissonant reality's corruptive properties.)
• Possibly Enhanced Absorption (When corrupting Hank he displayed an "absorb" function, though what exactly it means in this context is unclear)

Slightly restructured his Information Hax, listed him trying to recruit Sanford separately as a mind hax and added sources for extrasensory perception and etc.

• Information Manipulation (Type 2)
  
  • Mind Manipulation (Attempted to forcibly recruit Sanford by manipulating his code.[8])
  • Morality Manipulation (Can look through people's code to make them more violent[8])
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  • Likely Pain Manipulation (When trying to make Sanford more violent, one of his command lines showed "to make hurts" option. Seemingly induced an extreme pain on Sanford when trying to get into his head.)
  • Extrasensory Perception, Information Analysis and Clairvoyance (Was able to analyze Sanford's, Hank's, Deimos' current states and even a means of how exactly they were revived, such as Hank being resurrected by The Machine, through observing the code[8]. It is made clear that he already found out that Sanford was unkillable when trying to alter his code to make him more violent. He managed to figure out that Doc has been screwing his operations over despite them never physically interacting and Doc in this time seemingly being located far away from The Auditor [8]. Also discovered where Jebediah Christoff was precisely located to manifest himself in front of him, even though they presumably likewise never met before[9])
  • Cosmic Awareness (He can "audit" The Machine's output and its causality, with The Machine being all of reality)
  Added this to resistances:
• Dissonant Reality (Can withstand punches from Mag Hank with dissonant electricity[6]. Is unaffected from wearing The Halo, which uses Dissonant Reality)

Added this into AP justifications:
He can audit The Machine's "unimaginable vast" and supposedly manipulate its causality)

Added speed justifications:
Immeasurable (As a god, he should be superior to any nevadean including Arena Protagonist who at his peak just by physically moving was capable of breaking through space and time and disconnecting from The Machine in order to reach another space and time[24], which is all of reality including space and time[25]. It has been stated that he is capable of auditing The Machine's unimaginably vast output which includes space and time[25],

Agree: SomebodyData, RaikiKurohane99

Disagree:

Neutral

 

[Comiphorous]

You should probably list out all the changes you made.

 

[Employe]

Oh, alright, I will try to do it

 

[Comiphorous]

When I get the chance, I’ll read through everything and make a full response.

 

[Employe]

Bump

 

[Vyfourthaccount]

Looking good so far. I agree

 

[Employe]

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[Comiphorous]

Overall opinions (anything i didn't comment on i'm either fine with or didn't see, as you didn't list any of the changes in the op)

"mysterious benefactor" (By Dr. Gonne)

I know i was the one who added this, but this gotta go. He's never confirmed to be the mysterious benefactor. Same thing with it being mentioned in his information manipulation. We've already seen him edit prime code on screen, so we don't need to run with the theory he was the mysterious benefactor.

Immortality (Types 2, 3, 4 & 9) and Regeneration (likely limited High-Godly [Logic. Concept Type 1. Information Type 2. Narrative.] His body was completely destroyed when he was hijacked by Tricky, but despite this he later managed to reconstruct himself from nothing just with some minor scars on his back)

Nothing you listed here is high-godly, let alone even low-godly.

Extrasensory Perception, Information Analysis and Clairvoyance (Was able to analyze Sanford's, Hank's, Deimos' current states and even a means of how exactly they were revived, such as Hank being resurrected by The Machine, through observing the code. It is made clear that he already found out that Sanford was unkillable when trying to alter his code to make him more violent. He managed to figure out that Doc has been screwing his operations over despite them never physically interacting and Doc in this time seemingly being located far away from The Auditor. Also discovered where Jebediah Christoff was precisely located to manifest himself in front of him, even though they presumably likewise never met before)

all of this is mostly fine except that little bit at the end. The Auditor does know who christoff is. Conductor immediately reveals they know who he is. The Employers should know who basically everyone is.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I don't really agree with a lot of this:

Type 1 Concept: Is there anything hinting that the core concepts would be fine if the objects using said object are altered? Concepts are usually Type 2 unless proven otherwise for this kind of stuff.

Plot: If this scan is the sole basis for the narrative being a thing in-universe, then I don't agree with this. "Story" by its own is not necessairly meaning a metafictional force that drives the events, as its definition is simply a description of events that are either real or fictional.

Logic Manipulation: Simply being called Logic isn't grounds to qualify for the power. Let's see what it is called on this wiki:

Logic is defined in the real world as the study of correct reasoning. Translating this to fiction, manipulation of logic would essentially involve manipulating the rules governing deductive reasoning. Such rules provide the grounding for any deductive inference about the world, and thus for any and all intelligibility whatsoever. As such, they are not, and cannot be, rooted in any laws more fundamental than themselves. Rather, they are the basis for any and all laws, calculation, and relations between phenomena.

Basically, it means that while making stuff like "1+1 = 1" is normally just Mathematical Manipulation, Logic Manipulation instead manipulated the very axiom which we think with on why such an equation makes no sense in normal circumstances, making so that 1+1 = 1 is something that would always make sense without directly targeting that specific part of math.

Nothing in your blog is remotely close to this, it seems more another term for Info Type 2.

 

[Randomuser3412]

Type 10 (Higher-Order): Characters larger than a conventional multiverse, being either higher-dimensional spaces or structures roughly equivalent to such.

Just gonna say the Auditor's "Personal Hell" key should be Large Size type 10 instead of type 9, as he is 5D

 

[Employe]

Just gonna say the Auditor's "Personal Hell" key should be Large Size type 10 instead of type 9, as he is 5D

Fair

 

[Employe]

Overall opinions (anything i didn't comment on i'm either fine with or didn't see, as you didn't list any of the changes in the op)


I know i was the one who added this, but this gotta go. He's never confirmed to be the mysterious benefactor. Same thing with it being mentioned in his information manipulation. We've already seen him edit prime code on screen, so we don't need to run with the theory he was the mysterious benefactor.


Nothing you listed here is high-godly, let alone even low-godly.


all of this is mostly fine except that little bit at the end. The Auditor does know who christoff is. Conductor immediately reveals they know who he is. The Employers should know who basically everyone is.

Well, I didn't say Auditor didn't know him. My point was is that they already knew Jeb despite (presumably) never directly interacting with him.

About regeneration. But didn't he restore his whole body? I think it should qualify .

Benefactor thing I can agree, but I feel it at least worthy of being as "heavily implied"

 

[Comiphorous]

Benefactor thing I can agree, but I feel it at least worthy of being as "heavily implied"

The only implication is the fact "mysterious benefactor" is in red, and that the auditor gave phobos the original charter to the nexus core. Due to the nature of employers just doing the will of the machine, literally any of them could have given the prime code up, including the machine itself.

Theory is a theory, i'd personally just remove it due to how many people it could have been.

Edit;

About regeneration. But didn't he restore his whole body? I think it should qualify .

No, he was left as a giant fire on top of the roof they were on

It's at best High-Mid based off how you interpret the feat, i personally left it as Mid just in case.

 

[Employe]

I don't really agree with a lot of this:

Type 1 Concept: Is there anything hinting that the core concepts would be fine if the objects using said object are altered? Concepts are usually Type 2 unless proven otherwise for this kind of stuff.

What do you mean "objects"? Because Order and Death aren't objects and neither is The Machine (which acts as an all-encomprassing abstract structure)

Plot: If this scan is the sole basis for the narrative being a thing in-universe, then I don't agree with this. "Story" by its own is not necessairly meaning a metafictional force that drives the events, as its definition is simply a description of events that are either real or fictional.

We actually have some other evidence on the series having plot hax, such as The Maker (who is supposedly comparable to The Machine) seemingly scrawling story of the game (he even directly refers to himself as a storyteller and will behind the pen), some of magical artifacts being able to rewrite one's fate to kill them (also has this in the form of book), The Nowhere (which is basically a realm of nothingless all untold stories where everything ceases to exist), being said to erase story of one's being when returning to The Machine (notably character also loses all his powers when happens so).

However, I think the brightest testaments of potential plot hax is The Maker heavily implying that our character is controlled by the real life player (he also mentions our story being untold), he at one point even seemingly changes the game credits

There are probably other instances I have missed, but I feel like the way series generally refers to the story goes way beyond flowery language.

Notice also he mentions The Machine defining stories in the context of explicitly explaining how it defines space, time, matter, fate and everything what is in universe, so it is very likely that he meant literally story (Also lmao I realized that put wrong scans at some points).

Logic Manipulation: Simply being called Logic isn't grounds to qualify for the power. Let's see what it is called on this wiki:

Basically, it means that while making stuff like "1+1 = 1" is normally just Mathematical Manipulation, Logic Manipulation instead manipulated the very axiom which we think with on why such an equation makes no sense in normal circumstances, making so that 1+1 = 1 is something that would always make sense without directly targeting that specific part of math.

Nothing in your blog is remotely close to this, it seems more another term for Info Type 2.

I will admit I still have troubles with grasping how logical nonsense works on our site, but from what I heard on another threads the way our series describes and defines this concept should be sufficient for logic. I'm not totally sure though and will definitely consider your opinion, but until now I'm waiting for opinions of mods themselves

 

[Employe]

The only implication is the fact "mysterious benefactor" is in red, and that the auditor gave phobos the original charter to the nexus core. Due to the nature of employers just doing the will of the machine, literally any of them could have given the prime code up, including the machine itself.

Alright, I will remove it. This is redudant to be on his profile

No, he was left as a giant fire on top of the roof they were on

It's at best High-Mid based off how you interpret the feat, i personally left it as Mid just in case.

I mean, but don't we see him later appearing from nothing? I feel like it is at least limited High-mid due to at worst appearing from a puddle, Mid is just for -+ brain damage

 

[Comiphorous]

I mean, but don't we see him later appearing from nothing? I feel like it is at least limited High-mid due to at worst appearing from a puddle, Mid is just for -+ brain damage

Him appearing from nothing is 99% of the time teleportation or his shapeshifting.

 

[Employe]

Him appearing from nothing is 99% of the time teleportation or his shapeshifting.

The thing is that his body was destroyed prior this and at most left as a pool of fire and we didn't see him appering in the same exact spot after getting "killed"

 

[StrymULTRA]

What do you mean "objects"? Because Order and Death aren't objects and neither is The Machine (which acts as an all-encomprassing abstract structure)

By objects I mean the things that involve the concept. A Type 2 concept of humanity would be altered if humanity does, but a Type 1 concept of humanity wouldn't even if we stop existing.

We actually have some other evidence on the series having plot hax, such as The Maker (who is supposedly comparable to The Machine) seemingly scrawling story of the game (he even directly refers to himself as a storyteller and will behind the pen), some of magical artifacts being able to rewrite one's fate to kill them (also has this in the form of book), The Nowhere (which is basically a realm of nothingless all untold stories where everything ceases to exist), being said to erase story of one's being when returning to The Machine (notably character also loses all his powers when happens so).

However, I think the brightest testaments of potential plot hax is The Maker heavily implying that our character is controlled by the real life player (he also mentions our story being untold), he at one point even seemingly changes the game credits

There are probably other instances I have missed, but I feel like the way series generally refers to the story goes way beyond flowery language.

Notice also he mentions The Machine defining stories in the context of explicitly explaining how it defines space, time, matter, fate and everything what is in universe, so it is very likely that he meant literally story (Also lmao I realized that put wrong scans at some points).

Sure.

I will admit I still have troubles with grasping how logical nonsense works on our site, but from what I heard on another threads the way our series describes and defines this concept should be sufficient for logic. I'm not totally sure though and will definitely consider your opinion.

You really should've asked to @DontTalkDT instead of just going for vibes.

Anyway, nah, reading this thread, he pretty much said that this should be a qualifier for it to even qualifier:

Tell me at least one rule of logic that was broken in your case. It's very unlikely that I will accept a case in this thread in which logic manipulation is done without some feat violating regular logic. Also, mind the defining logic section.

I see nothing here to support that it does anything that breaks classical logic. It just seems to use logic to mean "system" or "ruleset".

 

[Employe]

By objects I mean the things that involve the concept. A Type 2 concept of humanity would be altered if humanity does, but a Type 1 concept of humanity wouldn't even if we stop existing.

So as was already stated before, The Machine shapes all of reality down to matter, space, time, story and fate.

However, The Machine also seems to be affiliated with and likely to shape The Nowhere (like the rest of existence, or more like non-existence in this case) since assimilating into Nowhere (which is where out story ceases to be) was described as returning to The Machine, The Nowhere is a divine primordial source which is non-existent and where everything began to exist as well (here The Nowhere was stated to exist nowhere) was going to consume all of reality and is described as a place where everything what's forgotten goes, where eveyone would stop to exist and where are housed all undreamt things that weren't shaped by The Maker into existence. Since The Machine, despite molding all of reality, seemingly can exist (if not even exert influence) in the place which is basically a primordial realm of nothingless which is also where existence began and simultaneously where every stories and beings get erased (and potentially all od universe was going to be erased), it means that The Machine can theoretically exist unbounded from the physical/actual reality.

Both The Auditor and The Machine are made out of the same logic, The Auditor should scale to it too.

You really should've asked to @DontTalkDT instead of just going for vibes.

Anyway, nah, reading this thread, he pretty much said that this should be a qualifier for it to even qualifier:

We have a statement about dissonant reality (which strips logic from anything in contacts to) filled beast being able to "defy death, life and all things natural" and Gestalt is indeed shown to be completely unkillable during the game.

 

[StrymULTRA]

So as was already stated before, The Machine shapes all of reality down to matter, space, time, story and fate.

This is not necessary for Type 1, but not sufficient on its own, Type 2 also does that.

However, The Machine also seems to be affiliated with and likely to shape The Nowhere (like the rest of existence, or more like non-existence in this case) since assimilating into Nowhere (which is where out story ceases to be) was described as returning to The Machine, The Nowhere is a divine primordial source which is non-existent and where everything began to exist as well (here The Nowhere was stated to exist nowhere) was going to consume all of reality and is described as a place where everything what's forgotten goes, where evryone would stop to exist and where are housed all undreamt things that weren't shaped by The Maker into existence. Since The Machine, despite molding all of reality, seemingly can exist (if not even exert influence) in the place which is basically a primordial realm of nothingless which is also where existence began and simultaneously where every stories and beings get erased (and potentially all od universe was going to be erased), it means that The Machine can theoretically exist unbounded from the physical/actual reality.

My issue is that it's not really related to concepts, you're mixing the two.

We do not make things both Information and Concept, unless the series makes it explicit that both of these things are literal synonyms. By your blog, the only things about concepts that I see is this:

It is important to note that Employers by themselves regarded as abstract universal concepts, to the point that their death will cause an end of reality due to representing its core concepts, such as The Auditor himself is a concept of order.

Nothing here says that Employers are the same thing as the Machine, but they just seem to be an underlying thing to it that is also beneath it, so from the way I see it, Machine (Info 2) > Employers (Concept 2), rather than both being the exact same thing.

Both The Auditor and The Machine are made out of the same logic, The Auditor should scale to it too.

I do not think that's the case, the only scan is this:

The Auditor serves as a Primary Employer to the Machine. A servant to invisible will, born from need and purpose and constructed from the very fabric of logic itself.

It does not say that he's made of Logic, but out of logic, which is not the same thing. If a character uses the Form of a cat to create kittens, these are assumed to be normal kittens and not Type 1 concepts.

We have a statement about dissonant reality (which strips logic from anything in contacts to) filled beast being able to "defy death, life and all things natural" and Gestalt is indeed shown to be comoletely unkillable during the game.

I am not sure if it satisfies this:

As should be obvious by now, simple statements of characters "doing the impossible" or "breaking logic" are not nearly enough to qualify for this ability. Characters must be shown to be capable of directly interfering with a form of deductive reasoning that tangibly governs their verse's reality, and acts as the grounding for intelligibility within the verse.

It does look like it though, but I dunno if DT would really agree with it, I'll try to get him here.

 

[Employe]

This is not necessary for Type 1, but not sufficient on its own, Type 2 also does that.

My issue is that it's not really related to concepts, you're mixing the two.

We do not make things both Information and Concept, unless the series makes it explicit that both of these things are literal synonyms. By your blog, the only things about concepts that I see is this:

Nothing here says that Employers are the same thing as the Machine, but they just seem to be an underlying thing to it that is also beneath it, so from the way I see it, Machine (Info 2) > Employers (Concept 2), rather than both being the exact same thing.

Something can be considered as both CM 1 and IM 2 as long it fits requirements of either. In our context The Machine serves as fundamental building force which is made of something that can be used as a representation of information (gears and implicitly code), but also it is a construct that's said (and actually kinda shown to do it as well) to make up all of reality including stuff like space-time, matter, fate and narrative while being apparently able to exist in the place of nothingless which is also a realm where eveything began to exist, meaning this is an universe covering metaphysical idea that also can exist outside of the universe.

Both The Machine and Employers are claimed to be constructs of the logic in which them sharing similar abstract natures makes sense.

I do not think that's the case, the only scan is this:

It does not say that he's made of Logic, but out of logic, which is not the same thing. If a character uses the Form of a cat to create kittens, these are assumed to be normal kittens and not Type 1 concepts.

"Constructed of" and "constructed from the very fabric" are practically synonyms dawg. It precisely says "from the very fabric of logic" and not simply "from", implying that he is meant to be the fundamental logic itself

Object with the form of a kitten to create other kittens doesn't constitute into it being an abstract thing because kitten is not an abstract idea. Neverless, if said kitten is the very fabric of abstraction that governs and builds all of reality, then I'm ready to accept them as a construct of Type 1 concept

I am not sure if it satisfies this:

It does look like it though, but I dunno if DT would really agree with it, I'll try to get him here.

Fair, I will wait for opinions of experts on this matter then (but I'm afraid that nobody cares about my thread bare for 2 people)

On the side not, I do agree with you that Information > Concepts in this series

 

[DontTalkDT]

The link of "space, time, narrative and some others" mentions nothing of space, time and some others.
The author statements don't amount to anything, as the word "concept" is put in his mouth by the question (and "concept" as a term is so vague that it doesn't need to count for what we use the term for anyway).

I see no mention of logic in any context that would hint at any alteration of logical principle. On the contrary, I think the way the same constructs are described as code and machinations of the game, it makes me rather believe that what is refered to is the logic of the game/program.

I only see plot and information type 2, but it should be noted that those are very much just two different metaphors for the same metaphysical aspect here. Not two aspects or one thing governing two aspects. Relevant distinction to make as far as metaphysical equalization goes, if we think ahead of vs-threads, since they should generally equalize to the same thing.

 

[Employe]

The link of "space, time, narrative and some others" mentions nothing of space, time and some others.
The author statements don't amount to anything, as the word "concept" is put in his mouth by the question (and "concept" as a term is so vague that it doesn't need to count for what we use the term for anyway)

Yes, I accidentally posted wrong one. Here is correct https://madnesscombat.fandom.com/wiki/The_Maker#Dialogue_during_the_Magiturge_Origin

I see no mention of logic in any context that would hint at any alteration of logical principle. On the contrary, I think the way the same constructs are described as code and machinations of the game, it makes me rather believe that what is refered to is the logic of the game/program.

fair then, I will remove the logic part as for now

 

[XxZetsuxX]

I'm going blind here, i don't know if someone mentioned already but like;

If Auditor manages causality.. why is it a likely rating?

 

[Employe]

Good point, will remove "likely" rating

 

[Employe]

Okay, I retweaked my blog with explanations about conceptual stuff and will tomorrow write what exactly I changed/added in The Auditor's profile

 

[Employe]

I only see plot and information type 2, but it should be noted that those are very much just two different metaphors for the same metaphysical aspect here. Not two aspects or one thing governing two aspects. Relevant distinction to make as far as metaphysical equalization goes, if we think ahead of vs-threads, since they should generally equalize to the same thing.

By the way, I heavily disagree with your position about information = plot. The Machine can exist just fine in the realm which lacks of stories (and is generally depicted as non-existent primordial realm from where everything began to be, but also everything including stories will stop exist upon entering it) and The Machine is an abstract construct of logical gears (aka informational building block), meaning that they are can't be the same

(If you want to see sources you can check for my now updated blog, btw)

The Maker even states stories are "merely cogs in its framework" as opposed to stories being like its framework/gears as a whole, implying that stories are meant to be a lesser aspect of The Machine and its fundamental structure

If anything, I feel like logic (aka information) = Concept (likely, but I'm unsure maybe it can be argued that information is superior to a concept in this case) and Concept > Narrative in this series

 

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[Follow_Doctor_Freeman]

In the future, have your OPs recap in a bullet-point summary (contained in a spoiler tab for neatness if there's a lot) what exactly is going to be added to which profiles. Having a before/after also is good, but the differences are hard to notice for profiles already this extensive. That helps people know what they're signing up for/against.

In the interest of everyone being on the same page, I'm going to wait until the OP has that kind of summary before I comprehensively summarize everything I agree & disagree with for 100% certain, especially for The Auditor. But after Comi's corrections are taken into account, I think I'm largely on board with that longform blog.

Basic gist for Dissonance being that pretty much everything in Madness is essentially the result of The Machine's plot, information, and logic manipulation -- these things being mentioned by name as opposed to only the blanket term of "reality warping" -- with Dissonance affecting things on that much of a fundamental level since it manipulates the code the Machine created (moreso than manipulating the untouchable Machine itself if I understand correctly). Albeit very locally, mostly just lighting bolts & such. Kinda like Essence from DOOM.

 

[Employe]

In the future, have your OPs recap in a bullet-point summary (contained in a spoiler tab for neatness if there's a lot) what exactly is going to be added to which profiles. Having a before/after also is good, but the differences are hard to notice for profiles already this extensive. That helps people know what they're signing up for/against.

In the interest of everyone being on the same page, I'm going to wait until the OP has that kind of summary before I comprehensively summarize everything I agree & disagree with for 100% certain, especially for The Auditor. But after Comi's corrections are taken into account, I think I'm largely on board with that longform blog.

Basic gist for Dissonance being that pretty much everything in Madness is essentially the result of The Machine's plot, information, and logic manipulation -- these things being mentioned by name as opposed to only the blanket term of "reality warping" -- with Dissonance affecting things on that much of a fundamental level since it manipulates the code the Machine created (moreso than manipulating the untouchable Machine itself if I understand correctly). Albeit very locally, mostly just lighting bolts & such. Kinda like Essence from DOOM.

Thank you for evaluation, I restructured my blog and intend to add what I changed about The Auditor

 

[CitRusReality64]

Intangibility should be removed, and replaced with something like Incorporeality. Because Intangibility is for characters who have physical existence, but have an ability that makes them phase through stuff. Incorporeality is like the opposite of that, and you have The Auditor having AE Type 1, and typically AE Type 1 beings are paired with Incorporeality instead.

 

[Employe]

The thing: both Hank and Jeb are still able to interact with his NEP & AE, but also he is capable of negating it becoming untouchable when he chooses