Breadbear83
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this CRT will be about changing slightly the AP, Striking Strength, Durability and Lifting Strength (mainly this one) of some of Satoru Gojo and Ryomen Sukuna Keys with the accepted scaling of the verse (wont mention speed and other statistics)
(to revise this CRT, have Gojo and Sukuna Profiles of the top next to you)
Gojos ´´past´´ key:
Attack Potency, Striking Strength and durability: his profile says ´´unknown´´ for Physical AP and striking Strength but it definitively could scale to some characters, ill propose 2 scalings.
´´at least 8A´´ (Mid Tier) Gojo:
Suguru Geto profile has his AP, Striking Strength and Durability in his Teen key at ´´at least 8A ´´ with the argument that he was a grade 1 sorcerer at the time, close to special grade, and also has the argument that he can fight Pre awakening Gojo, using he fighting Gojo as an argument for his AP would be because Gojo is around that AP, else why using Gojo as a Chainscaling argument for Geto?
As Gojo would be implied to be a Grade 1 sorcerer close to special grade like Geto, he can scale to Geto (even more with pre awakening Gojo fighting Toji better than Geto did), and by being close to be special grade, he may be said ´´likely stronger than Nanami, a grade 1 sorcerer who could keep up with the special grade curse Mahito´´
specifying Mahito for scaling because Geto´s 8A tier is likely an upscale of 1.18x from Mahito´s Feat of 85.81 Tons of TNT of shaking Shibuya
NOTE: qurbonboev says that JJK mid tiers scaling of 8B/8A is being discussed by the Mahito feat of it's scaling being invalidated, the arguments of Gojo scaling to geto stays, but so Geto tiering would change soon
´´At least High 7C´´ (High Tier) Gojo:
His Lifting Strenght of Class M, is because of him holding Tojis katana in place, which needs him to be somewhat comparable, albeit lower, to Tojis Physicals, Gojos Class M is >125,959 Metric Tons , same as other High 7C Characters like Culling Games Yuji, Complete Heavenly Restriction Maki, and so Toji himself
as for Gojos durability, his profile only says ´´at Least High 7C´´ this is because of his feat of using cursed energy reinforcement when Toji hit him, first of all, if the feat was with cursed energy reinforcement, the durability feat would be only with it, but even then, Cursed energy reinforcement doesn´t enhance stats like durability by such an absurd amount for Gojo durability without it being thousands of times below 385.57 Kilotons of TNT at 8A, i already doubt he has just a mere ´´at least 8A´´ durability without cursed energy reinforcement, he may normally downscale somewhat lower, like just ´´High 7C, Higher with cursed energy reinforcement´´ he wouldnt have ´´at least High 7C´´ Durability
EDIT: was told by Mommyleona that durability with and without cursed energy reinforcement isnt included in profiles, so Gojo could keep the ´´at least High 7C´´ durability, then my argument would be that his physical AP and striking Strength should be At least High 7C too (upscales from 385.57 Kilotons of TNT) this is supported by his lifting strength feat of being comparable to Toji, which can apply to AP and Striking Strength
however also the High 7C calc that most High Tiers scale to got Recalced, the argument of Gojos Physicals being of an High Tier like Toji stays, but not to Uraumes old calc
Different Lifting Strength of Present Gojo and Full Power Sukuna keys
first, Both Present Gojo and Full Power Sukuna keys have their Lifting Strength as ´´At least Class G´´ this is definitively by upscaling from Pre awakened Gojo Maximum output Blue, a 1.17x increase to reach baseline Class G
thing is, they are getting this tier (Class G) from upscaling a bit from a Feat that is below said tier (Class M) so i believe that shouldnt allow the ´´At least´´ on Class G, just ´´Class G´´
2/3F Sukuna Lifting Strength:
his Lifting Strength at this key is specified as ´´unknown, likely at least Class 5´´ this is likely by upscaling from Episode 1 Yuji Feat (2.45 Tons), i believe it should be deleted the ´´unknown´´
the argument for this is that, even if you believe 2/3F sukuna may have low Lifting Strength, he should be at least equal to Yuji being Class 5 from his own feat as Sukuna posseses him, he also struck down (at 2F) the finger bearer that was overpowering Yuji, and at 3F he can throw Megumi very far
15/16F Sukuna Lifting Strength:
he has Class M (125,929 Metric Tons) Lifting strenght in his profile, but i believe he can instead scales from Pre awakening Gojo Maximum output Blue (853,000 Metric Tons, Class M)
this is because, as i said earlier, Gojo was a Grade 1 sorcerer at the time, close to special grade, without being said to be a special grade sorcerer at the time, a Character at the level of Special grade sorcerers or even higher like 15/16F sukuna could upscale from this
like his own profile says, at 16F, even while his cursed energy was fluctuating, he was significantly stronger than Yuji, and could compete Physically with Maki, without his cursed energy fluctuating, he should be even stronger
Votes:
Agree with Everything (and also 8A (Mid Tier) Past Gojo) (1;0) @Mommyleona (Comment)
Agree with Everything (and also High 7C (High Tier) Past Gojo) (2;0) @saqphire (Comment), @Mbpoops (Comment)
Agree with certain things (0;0)
Disagree (0;0)
(this is a semi minor CRT, but of 2 important characters, would 2 votes be needed to be accepted?)
(looking at the characters profiles, with so many ´´unknown´´ ratings, it rather seems neccesary to do a Lifting Strength CRT of the scaling, but at least Past Gojo stats seems important for now)
(to revise this CRT, have Gojo and Sukuna Profiles of the top next to you)
Gojos ´´past´´ key:
Attack Potency, Striking Strength and durability: his profile says ´´unknown´´ for Physical AP and striking Strength but it definitively could scale to some characters, ill propose 2 scalings.
´´at least 8A´´ (Mid Tier) Gojo:
Suguru Geto profile has his AP, Striking Strength and Durability in his Teen key at ´´at least 8A ´´ with the argument that he was a grade 1 sorcerer at the time, close to special grade, and also has the argument that he can fight Pre awakening Gojo, using he fighting Gojo as an argument for his AP would be because Gojo is around that AP, else why using Gojo as a Chainscaling argument for Geto?
As Gojo would be implied to be a Grade 1 sorcerer close to special grade like Geto, he can scale to Geto (even more with pre awakening Gojo fighting Toji better than Geto did), and by being close to be special grade, he may be said ´´likely stronger than Nanami, a grade 1 sorcerer who could keep up with the special grade curse Mahito´´
specifying Mahito for scaling because Geto´s 8A tier is likely an upscale of 1.18x from Mahito´s Feat of 85.81 Tons of TNT of shaking Shibuya
NOTE: qurbonboev says that JJK mid tiers scaling of 8B/8A is being discussed by the Mahito feat of it's scaling being invalidated, the arguments of Gojo scaling to geto stays, but so Geto tiering would change soon
´´At least High 7C´´ (High Tier) Gojo:
His Lifting Strenght of Class M, is because of him holding Tojis katana in place, which needs him to be somewhat comparable, albeit lower, to Tojis Physicals, Gojos Class M is >125,959 Metric Tons , same as other High 7C Characters like Culling Games Yuji, Complete Heavenly Restriction Maki, and so Toji himself
EDIT: was told by Mommyleona that durability with and without cursed energy reinforcement isnt included in profiles, so Gojo could keep the ´´at least High 7C´´ durability, then my argument would be that his physical AP and striking Strength should be At least High 7C too (upscales from 385.57 Kilotons of TNT) this is supported by his lifting strength feat of being comparable to Toji, which can apply to AP and Striking Strength
however also the High 7C calc that most High Tiers scale to got Recalced, the argument of Gojos Physicals being of an High Tier like Toji stays, but not to Uraumes old calc
Different Lifting Strength of Present Gojo and Full Power Sukuna keys
first, Both Present Gojo and Full Power Sukuna keys have their Lifting Strength as ´´At least Class G´´ this is definitively by upscaling from Pre awakened Gojo Maximum output Blue, a 1.17x increase to reach baseline Class G
thing is, they are getting this tier (Class G) from upscaling a bit from a Feat that is below said tier (Class M) so i believe that shouldnt allow the ´´At least´´ on Class G, just ´´Class G´´
2/3F Sukuna Lifting Strength:
his Lifting Strength at this key is specified as ´´unknown, likely at least Class 5´´ this is likely by upscaling from Episode 1 Yuji Feat (2.45 Tons), i believe it should be deleted the ´´unknown´´
the argument for this is that, even if you believe 2/3F sukuna may have low Lifting Strength, he should be at least equal to Yuji being Class 5 from his own feat as Sukuna posseses him, he also struck down (at 2F) the finger bearer that was overpowering Yuji, and at 3F he can throw Megumi very far
15/16F Sukuna Lifting Strength:
he has Class M (125,929 Metric Tons) Lifting strenght in his profile, but i believe he can instead scales from Pre awakening Gojo Maximum output Blue (853,000 Metric Tons, Class M)
this is because, as i said earlier, Gojo was a Grade 1 sorcerer at the time, close to special grade, without being said to be a special grade sorcerer at the time, a Character at the level of Special grade sorcerers or even higher like 15/16F sukuna could upscale from this
like his own profile says, at 16F, even while his cursed energy was fluctuating, he was significantly stronger than Yuji, and could compete Physically with Maki, without his cursed energy fluctuating, he should be even stronger
Votes:
Agree with Everything (and also 8A (Mid Tier) Past Gojo) (1;0) @Mommyleona (Comment)
Agree with Everything (and also High 7C (High Tier) Past Gojo) (2;0) @saqphire (Comment), @Mbpoops (Comment)
Agree with certain things (0;0)
Disagree (0;0)
(this is a semi minor CRT, but of 2 important characters, would 2 votes be needed to be accepted?)
(looking at the characters profiles, with so many ´´unknown´´ ratings, it rather seems neccesary to do a Lifting Strength CRT of the scaling, but at least Past Gojo stats seems important for now)
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