That Time I Fought a God Slayer (Rimuru vs Kratos)

[Nonynho]

Also, I must ask, but does OP think God of Hope is Kratos's strongest key? Doesn't change much, but I've seen that mix up happen before.

dunno about OP but i had this as true, is it not?

 

[Hecky2222]

how NEP physically interacts with Existence?

Doesn't only haxes leave to argue

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Also, I must ask, but does OP think God of Hope is Kratos's strongest key? Doesn't change much, but I've seen that mix up happen before.

Likely, since most people think the latest key is the strongest.... (so did I)

 

[Planck69]

dunno about OP but i had this as true, is it not?

No. Hope is the strongest key he has. It just looks weird cause Kratos is one of the rare characters who reaches the peak of his power like halfway through the story then goes back down.

 

[Pepsimanslover]

dunno about OP but i had this as true, is it not?

Hope Kratos is the strongest.

Hope. Not God of Hope.

 

[Cipher72]

how NEP physically interacts with Existence?

You need NEP-3 I presume

 

[BoastJr]

I was aware of Hope Kratos from GoW 3 being stronger them GoW 4 Kratos because of more concept bs

but I haven't checked back on GoW for a long time and assumed God of Hope is his strongest form currently.

I will keep this is mind next time

 

[Nonynho]

Hope Kratos is the strongest.

Hope. Not God of Hope.

the mix up of mine was in wording

Hope= GOW3, God of Hope = Valhalla's ending

is that correct? if so, i got it right and just understood Planck wrongly

 

[Planck69]

I was aware of Hope Kratos from GoW 3 being stronger them GoW 4 Kratos because of more concept bs

but I haven't checked back on GoW for a long time and assumed God of Hope is his strongest form currently.

I will keep this is mind next time

Yeah, though even without concept stuff, Hope neg diffs someone who oneshots his peak God self.

 

[Planck69]

the mix up of mine was in wording

Hope= GOW3, God of Hope = Valhalla's ending

is that correct? if so, i got it right and just understood Planck wrongly

Yeah.

 

[AlexSamDen]

How good is Kratos's BFR residence again?

 

[Planck69]

How good is Kratos's BFR residence again?

He resists the Power of the Fates, so like, mutiple Low 1-C timelines in range IIRC.

 

[AlexSamDen]

He resists the Power of the Fates, so like, mutiple Low 1-C timelines in range IIRC.

Hmmm

What do you think, does this help him beyond the scope of L1C structures?

With no time or space on any level?

Idk how usable it is

 

[Pepsimanslover]

This thread should be closed. Mismatch given Kratos's inability to interact and get the nonexistent femboy's butthole.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Embodiment of Hope vs God of Hope

Ong I ain't reading that many pages. Based on the discussion, Kratos can't interact with Rimuru's NEP. What about BDE btw. Can he interact with BDE1?

And how good is his Void Manipulation resistance? His profile doesn't list any aspect or layers at least.
Can it resist this? For reference yeah, Nihility Magic (which Rimuru has) manipulates the Abyss of Hell, which is 1 layer of NEP for Aspect 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (Space, Time, Causality, Law, Life, Death)

I also don't see a Regen that can let Kratos survive this (I'm fr using ctrl + F while opening different keys cuz there's allat)

 

[Pepsimanslover]

Embodiment of Hope vs God of Hope

Ong I ain't reading that many pages. Based on the discussion, Kratos can't interact with Rimuru's NEP. What about BDE btw. Can he interact with BDE1?

And how good is his Void Manipulation resistance? His profile doesn't list any aspect or layers at least.
Can it resist this? For reference yeah, Nihility Magic (which Rimuru has) manipulates the Abyss of Hell, which is 1 layer of NEP for Aspect 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (Space, Time, Causality, Law, Life, Death)

I also don't see a Regen that can let Kratos survive this (I'm fr using ctrl + F while opening different keys cuz there's allat)

He resists EE on that level expect for the life and death stuff. No layers however.

 

[Planck69]

And even then, the NEP issue renders this whole discussion moot.

 

[Hecky2222]

Embodiment of Hope vs God of Hope

Ong I ain't reading that many pages. Based on the discussion, Kratos can't interact with Rimuru's NEP. What about BDE btw. Can he interact with BDE1?

And how good is his Void Manipulation resistance? His profile doesn't list any aspect or layers at least.
Can it resist this? For reference yeah, Nihility Magic (which Rimuru has) manipulates the Abyss of Hell, which is 1 layer of NEP for Aspect 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (Space, Time, Causality, Law, Life, Death)

I also don't see a Regen that can let Kratos survive this (I'm fr using ctrl + F while opening different keys cuz there's allat)

Who tf argues Void Manipulation against Existent beings unless you want to tell his ability can convert existence to nonexistence

 

[Ferno1234]

Kratos on his way to use his 1-C thrusts with CM Type 1 on Rimuru.

Aside from these childish antics, I'm curious, kratos is 1-C?

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Who tf argues Void Manipulation against Existent beings unless you want to tell his ability can convert existence to nonexistence

That's what it does tho...

 

[Cipher72]

Looks like a stomp then in Rimuru's favour ?
Rimuru has

• NEP
• HGR
• BDE-1

Which makes it a incon at least and

• Void Manip for offence

So....

 

[Nonynho]

So, is this a complete mismatch or an incon? Can't see Rimuru putting Kratos down either so i'd be betting the second one, so far

 

[Cipher72]

Who tf argues Void Manipulation against Existent beings unless you want to tell his ability can convert existence to nonexistence

That's what void Manipulation is brochachio or well an usage of it.

 

[Ferno1234]

Who tf argues Void Manipulation against Existent beings unless you want to tell his ability can convert existence to nonexistence

Abyss Nihility erases anything that comes in contact?

 

[AlexSamDen]

Who tf argues Void Manipulation against Existent beings unless you want to tell his ability can convert existence to nonexistence

How do we tell

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

How do we tell

The "Nothingness" of Hell has a fundamental property of opposing existence, and due to its Negative Existence Value (Minus Energy), it clashes with existent things (any energy) it comes into contact with and cancels out its Positive Existence. the "Life Force" of entities until its Negative Energy is brought to Zero. Cosmology Page

 

[Planck69]

So, is this a complete mismatch or an incon? Can't see Rimuru putting Kratos down either so i'd be betting the second one, so far

Mismatch. Kratos just can't do anything at all, until Rimuru eventually uses smth that affects him.

 

[Pepsimanslover]

Aside from these childish antics, I'm curious, kratos is 1-C?

Nah lmao.

 

[Cipher72]

The "Nothingness" of Hell has a fundamental property of opposing existence, and due to its Negative Existence Value (Minus Energy), it clashes with existent things (any energy) it comes into contact with and cancels out its Positive Existence. the "Life Force" of entities until its Negative Energy is brought to Zero

Now I am curious, can Kratos resist something like the Death Streak which rewrites stuff on an informational level or Curse/Mental magic. Either way this is a mismatch and should be closed I agree with that.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Now I am curious, can Kratos resist something like the Death Streak which rewrites stuff on an informational level or Curse/Mental magic.

His profile does say he has info manip, so he prolly has resistance to it as well through some means since info manip is for something general like rune magic (unless I undertood it wrong)

Not sure about "erasure" tho (like Abyss). I think he did have curse and mind res. I remember coming across them while giving his profile a quick read.

Either way this is a mismatch and should be closed I agree with that.

Same

 

[Planck69]

Closing this then