High 6-A to 5-C Redux Tournament Grand Finale (2026): Juubito vs Hakurou

[Shadowslash125]

Vs

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• Main Tournament Thread
• Keys: As agreed against tier setter in main thread
• Speed: Equalized speed in all matches
• Distance: 50 meters apart from each other
• Win:
  • Win via killing
  • or if opponent proceed to give up/exit tournament. (No BFR allowed)
• Knowledge: Random encounters, No prior knowledge to anybody
• Time Limit: 25-minute time limit
• Equipment: Standard Equipment Only
• Location: Arena Dome
• Updated New Rule: If, for any reason, any combatants are out of the given arena, they will lose by ring out standards. All combatants have been notified of this, and can use this to their advantages, among other things.

(Location picture below Outside and Inside)

Arena description:

• A giant dome 500 meters wide and 800 meters tall.
• Colossal enclosed arena where the central battle platform stretches a full 500 meters across, comparable to a supersized football pitch but engineered for extreme-scale combat. The surface is a circular expanse of reinforced metal of near unbreakable tough material and composite strong plating, etched with concentric rings that help gauge distance and positioning during fights. At that scale, fighters can engage in high-speed movement, long-range attacks, and large-area abilities without immediately reaching the boundaries. At the exact center lies a small circular opening, deceptively modest compared to the arena’s size. This aperture drops straight down into a vast vertical shaft filled with water that extends three hundred meters below the surface.
• The arena is now destructible! However, it's still able to hold its balance even if there's no support to support the arena. The confines of the arena (destroyed or otherwise) will still be considered for Ring Out. The combatants will be able to see an outline of this ring out indicator, however.

Votes:

• Juubito:
• Hakurou:
• Incon:

 

[Shadowslash125]

Tiersetters are starting to get stale. Hopefully the next tournament is back to your standard funni fun fare I guess.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Just wanna know before even starting, what key is Obito in again? Hakurou is in his Kijin key.

(I will do my arguments in a bit.)

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Just wanna know before even starting, what key is Obito in again? Hakurou is in his Kijin key.

(I will do my arguments in a bit.)

Juubi

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Juubi

I will be honest... That dosen't make it any clearer... Since the keys don't match the classifications...

Edit - I was told off-site it is six path Obito being used, correct?

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

I will be honest... That dosen't make it any clearer... Since the keys don't match the classifications...

Edit - I was told off-site it is six path Obito being used, correct?

Yes, it’s the Six Paths Senjutsu Key

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Alright, anything prevents Hakurou from just using his normal stuff and decapitating Obito Asap?
(Perception amp, magic sense, heavenly eye, haze, info analysis) --> decapitation?

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Alright, anything prevents Hakurou from just using his normal stuff and decapitating Obito Asap?
(Perception amp, magic sense, heavenly eye, haze, info analysis) --> decapitation?

Sage mode and Sharingan analytical prediction + spider senses-ish danger warning + substitute jutsu + chakra sensing + passive sixth sense that tells that what is in their blind spots and environment

Realistically tho, Obito would just speed blitz using sunshin and EE

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Sage mode and Sharingan analytical prediction + spider senses-ish danger warning + substitute jutsu + chakra sensing + passive sixth sense that tells that what is in their blind spots and environment

Lovely, none of these work against Haze.

Realistically tho, Obito would just speed blitz using sunshin and EE

Against a 1000x speed boost? Yeah, good luck.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Lovely, none of these work against Haze.

Substitution jutsu would work

Against a 1000x speed boost? Yeah, good luck.

Bruh.

Alr than obito substitutes and uses TSO to cover himself than proceeds to nuke the entire area with a country ranged TBB

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Alr than obito substitutes and uses TSO to cover himself than proceeds to nuke the entire area with a country ranged TBB

Joke's on him, destroying the arena will disqualify him, (If I understand the rules correctly.)

But yeah, Haze makes the user semi-intangible. They get hit by physical stuff, but an ignorant semi-physical stuff. (so what is his EE?)

(Side note - what is TBB?... I don't know the shorternings, and the profile dosen't seem to use the attack names for a large margin of the abilities)

Substitution jutsu would work

Doesn't the user need to activate it themselves, or is it passive? (Only watched Naruto and that was years ago, I don't remember all the stuff from their...)

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Joke's on him, destroying the arena will disqualify him, (If I understand the rules correctly.)

Nah it’s allowed

But yeah, Haze makes the user semi-intangible. They get hit by physical stuff, but an ignorant semi-physical stuff. (so what is his EE?)

TSO can interact with intangible objects

Also how is he damaging obito? The durability and AP difference is astronomical

(Side note - what is TBB?... I don't know the shorternings, and the profile dosen't seem to use the attack names for a large margin of the abilities)

TBB is Tailed beast bomb

Also Obito can summon the god tree in which case would be a massive disadvantage to his opponents due to constantly regenerating danmaku roots that can LS diff so badly it’s comical. I am assuming that souls in Slime are concepts and informations, if not the roots would instantly take all the life force of Obito’s enemies

Doesn't the user need to activate it themselves, or is it passive? (Only watched Naruto and that was years ago, I don't remember all the stuff from their...)

It’s kinda of a BS technique that even if you get blitz’s it’s still takes effect by replacing you with a log that somehow appears in places it’s not supposed to

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

TSO can interact with intangible objects

I think you underestimate how "intangible" it is, to the point where even spiritual matter doesn't interact with him.
Not to mention, he still can't sense him. If you want, I can give a more detailed reason why, if you would be willing to lay out Obito's perception hax first?

Also how is he damaging obito? The durability and AP difference is astronomical

Shit Profile, his durability negation is low 2C, durability is always gonna be a one-shot if hit with a PHYSICAL attack.

TBB is Tailed beast bomb

thank you.

Also Obito can summon the god tree in which case would be a massive disadvantage to his opponents due to constantly regenerating danmaku roots that can LS diff so badly it’s comical.

Shouldn't be an issue due to haze, not to mention Hakurou can cut millions of times in the blink of an eye for an Otherworlder. (Sorry for the shit´profile) he also have a 300x amp

I am assuming that souls in Slime are concepts and informations, if not the roots would instantly take all the life force of Obito’s enemies

You are mostly correct, souls are currently only accepted as IM, but are "protected" by both CM and IM... Not gonna go into it since it's complicated, and we working on trying to get a better explanation accepted on the site.

It’s kinda of a BS technique that even if you get blitz’s it’s still takes effect by replacing you with a log that somehow appears in places it’s not supposed to

Just wanna know when does it activate? Since I am pretty sure he is not gonna be able to deal with this shit NPI (getting attacked on the conceptual level)

• Non-Physical Interaction (Abstractions [Type 1: Law & Concept {Type 1} & Information {Type 2}] & Intangibility & Incorporeality; Magic can work on a conceptual level and it could interact and damage Spiritual Lifeforms who have no physical body)

But yeah, I can also ask... How does Obito deal with Aura (low level monster)

Also, Hakurou should resist most hax, due to being a Unique skill user.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Frankly I'd just like to know how tf does Shock Rock win against an undetectable 1000x blitz amp attack. It was definitely answered before but I'm too lazy to search the past threads

 

[FARLANDER3305]

Frankly I'd just like to know how tf does Shock Rock win against an undetectable 1000x blitz amp attack. It was definitely answered before but I'm too lazy to search the past threads

Shockrock can go to space and use telekinesis

 

[FARLANDER3305]

@Dark_Soul20189 wowowowoow there is a 1000x blitz amp

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

I think you underestimate how "intangible" it is, to the point where even spiritual matter doesn't interact with him.
Not to mention, he still can't sense him. If you want, I can give a more detailed reason why, if you would be willing to lay out Obito's perception hax first?

TSO has six paths chakra which can interact with space-time portals, elements, soul, mind and beings that don’t have any spatial presence by existing on a separate plain of existence entirely

Shit Profile, his durability negation is low 2C, durability is always gonna be a one-shot if hit with a PHYSICAL attack.

I see. Obito can substitute out and fly away while using the tree to LS diff or AP diff

Shouldn't be an issue due to haze, not to mention Hakurou can cut millions of times in the blink of an eye for an Otherworlder. (Sorry for the shit´profile) he also have a 300x amp

Sure, but the tree is quite literally 120KM tall with a diameter of 180 KM

Even if he does start cutting at millions of time a blink, his not gonna have the luxury to do so cuz another million of roots are gonna danmkau his ass.

And that’s a low ball, the God tree can make roots for every living creature on the planet that alone would make the roots numbers into the 100s of millions as an abysmal low ball.

You are mostly correct, souls are currently only accepted as IM, but are "protected" by both CM and IM... Not gonna go into it since it's complicated, and we working on trying to get a better explanation accepted on the site.

Alr

Just wanna know when does it activate? Since I am pretty sure he is not gonna be able to deal with this shit NPI (getting attacked on the conceptual level)

That’s the neat part, we don’t. You can literally have a character have their entire body chopped up into 20 pieces and have all their organs and blood on the floor but as soon as you look back on what you just accomplished you see a damn log instead of a mangled body of your enemy

But yeah, I can also ask... How does Obito deal with Aura (low level monster)

Invulnerability to spiritual stuff

Also, Hakurou should resist most hax, due to being a Unique skill user.

Bruh, than Obito has AP and LS diff him

I am starting to wonder how the tier setter even won against this dude

 

[DavidTPPM]

Shockrock can go to space and use telekinesis

Before an undetectable 1000x blitz? I find that hard to believe.

If so Obito can fly extremely high too (in fact it's his standard way to fight)

 

[FARLANDER3305]

Before an undetectable 1000x blitz? I find that hard to believe.

If so Obito can fly extremely high too (in fact it's his standard way to fight)

Obito cannot exit arena if he does he will loose

 

[DavidTPPM]

Obito cannot exit arena if he does he will loose

Then neither can Shockrock and Hakarou gets re-disqualified due to beating the TS…? Otherwise what's the point of a tier setter to begin with.

Or if we're changing rules to benefit certain fighters make Obito bloodlusted so he insta-genjustus

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Frankly I'd just like to know how tf does Shock Rock win against an undetectable 1000x blitz amp attack. It was definitely answered before but I'm too lazy to search the past threads

I have answered this question multiple times each round, but Hakurou can't go to space, nor come close... So Hakruou lacks any real wincon against him. Telekeneis works if used when Haze is not active, or rather "fully active". Explaned it in more details in earlier threads, but it has been contested and pasts every match so far....

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Then neither can Shockrock and Hakarou gets re-disqualified due to beating the TS…? Otherwise what's the point of a tier setter to begin with.

the tier setter just isn't affected by the rules... (If it was more than half the tournament would be elimanated.)

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

I think you underestimate how "intangible" it is, to the point where even spiritual matter doesn't interact with him.
Not to mention, he still can't sense him. If you want, I can give a more detailed reason why, if you would be willing to lay out Obito's perception hax first

As for perception stuff

• Has layered sight for invisibility
• Can see his opponents future moves, quantity doesn’t matter as sharingan can out predict nards clones which easily get to 100s
• Outpredict Danmaku of kunais and rain of iron ball
• Counter perfectly
• Has sage mode whose predictive abilities are better than nards emotion sensing predictions
• Can see the entire arena via clairvoyance

There’s more but these are the most important ones

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

TSO has six paths chakra which can interact with space-time portals, elements, soul, mind and beings that don’t have any spatial presence by existing on a separate plain of existence entirely

Not enough since Magicules are "conceptual", and haze is capable of becoming even unreactive to magicules.

I see. Obito can substitute out and fly away while using the tree to LS diff or AP diff

Yeah, the question is just if he can ever catch him, and magic passively kills or mutates plants, so that won't work.

Sure, but the tree is quite literally 120KM tall with a diameter of 180 KM

Even if he does start cutting at millions of time a blink, his not gonna have the luxury to do so cuz another million of roots are gonna danmkau his ass.

And that’s a low ball, the God tree can make roots for every living creature on the planet that alone would make the roots numbers into the 100s of millions as an abysmal low ball.

Answered above, but it is a passive....

That’s the neat part, we don’t. You can literally have a character have their entire body chopped up into 20 pieces and have all their organs and blood on the floor but as soon as you look back on what you just accomplished you see a damn log instead of a mangled body of your enemy

Does it have any feats of doing this against a conceptual attack?
(If not, you would need to prove it activates before being hit)

Invulnerability to spiritual stuff

I mean the resistance and authority, since it's much more a "nature" and "resistance", than directly manipulating them.

I am starting to wonder how the tier setter even won against this dude

Got ****** by range and space travel...

 

[DavidTPPM]

I have answered this question multiple times each round, but Hakurou can't go to space, nor come close... So Hakruou lacks any real wincon against him. Telekeneis works if used when Haze is not active, or rather "fully active". Explaned it in more details in earlier threads, but it has been contested and pasts every match so far....

And Hakarou will wait for Shockrock to just fly 100 kilometers to space? How nice of him. Then I'm sure he'll wait for Obito to get into a TSO cocoon or poop out a tree that pushes him off the arena.
Or maybe even let Obito just send a TSO bomb near him.

There's like 10 ways Obito can win if Hakarou is nice enough to wait a bit.

the tier setter just isn't affected by the rules... (If it was more than half the tournament would be elimanated.)

No offense but that's really goofy. Not only does it completely remove the point of the tier setter but the rule is pretty blatantly in favor of one side (yk, assuming Hakarou won't actually just wait for the opponent to set up their attacks)

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

As for perception stuff

Alright, first of let's copy paste what Hakurou can do before I explain them in each counter. (Stealth aspect)

• Perception Manipulation, Limited Invisibility, and Stealth Mastery (With FormHide; FormHide is a Battle Art that allows the user to disappear from the naked eye, as well as mask their presence, by suppressing their sound, smell, and lastly temperature.)

• Stealth Mastery, Pseudo-Invisibility and Lack of Presence (Formhide is an art which enables one to vanish from sight from Magic Sense. A Magic Sense user has 360 degrees vision that observes magic particles such as light, sound and such to get an idea of the world beyond your senses. There's no blind spot to slip through either because all of the information is being perceived at all times all at once without focusing on any specific part of it)
• Enhanced Perception Manipulation, Invisibility, and Stealth Mastery (With Haze; Haze is the perfected version of Formhide, that forces the opponent to lose sight of them, and completely suppresses sound, smell, temperature, but also their Spirit, allowing even Magicules to pass through them without interacting, making sensory abilities such as Magic Sense useless.)

Has layered sight for invisibility

Haze is more than just invisibility, but if we talk actual invisibility only, it is to a point where they don't even interact with light. (magicules and other vision skills, are useless against it)

Can see his opponents future moves, quantity doesn’t matter as sharingan can out predict nards clones which easily get to 100s

How does this "future vision" work?

Outpredict Danmaku of kunais and rain of iron ball

doesn't mean anything here.

Counter perfectly

again dosen't mean anything here.

Has sage mode whose predictive abilities are better than nards emotion sensing predictions

Haze prevents any type of "emotion" or "intent" from leaking out. (Also hides their "energy", know this will be a follow-up)

Can see the entire arena via clairvoyance

Again, dosen't mean anything if he can't sense Hakurou to begin with.

Not to mention Hakurou has something similar to Magic Sense.

• Enhanced Senses and Extrasensory Perception (Possesses the Magic Sense Skill, which allows the user to perceive the particles of magic floating around them, in a 360 degree view, and also perceive the waves of light and sound pushing every particle around. Further improves his senses with Heavengaze, since it gives him a better sense of the magic around him, from the flow of magicules to the extent of its force, than even Magic Sense could allow)

So yeah, I see nothing here that indicate Haze could be detected.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

And Hakarou will wait for Shockrock to just fly 100 kilometers to space? How nice of him. Then I'm sure he'll wait for Obito to get into a TSO cocoon or poop out a tree that pushes him off the arena.

I think you misunderstand... Hakurou can't get to him even if he pushes with all he has.... (His speed rating is combat, and his travel speed is far below, unless amped - which we don't even have on the profile yet...)

Also... It doesn't even need to be that high, even 1km is far higher than Hakurou can reach...

No offense but that's really goofy. Not only does it completely remove the point of the tier setter but the rule is pretty blatantly in favor of one side (yk, assuming Hakarou won't actually just wait for the opponent to set up their attacks)

Blame the tournament, Hakurou will always do the optimal solution, and actually had characters in the tournament he would lose to... (2 of them were eliminated by Obito himself, so thanks for that)

 

[DavidTPPM]

I think you misunderstand... Hakurou can't get to him even if he pushes with all he has.... (His speed rating is combat, and his travel speed is far below, unless amped - which we don't even have on the profile yet...)

Also... It doesn't even need to be that high, even 1km is far higher than Hakurou can reach...

Blame the tournament, Hakurou will always do the optimal solution, and actually had characters in the tournament he would lose to...

Lmao so the only reason Obito doesn't just do exactly what Shockrock would is that this round was given completely different rules from the tier setter fight?

Awesomesauce

(2 of them were eliminated by Obito himself, so thanks for that)

You're welcome ig

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

so basically this dude is an absolute monster in hax, has l2c slashing power, can speed blitz with a 1000X amp, add another aditional 300X amp and has a passive that makes it virtully imposible to get close to.

How on earth did the tier setter even harm this dude with TK if he needs smth better than CM, IM and AE npi to even interrect with. Not to mention that this dude cant be sensed so how was shockrock even gonna know where to hit even if he could?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Lmao so the only reason Obito doesn't just do exactly what Shockrock would is that this round was given completely different rules from the tier setter fight?

Yep...

You're welcome ig

I couldn't be happier, you got rid or Lay and Reaper pick, both would have taken it...

so basically this dude is an absolute monster in hax, has l2c slashing power, can speed blitz with a 1000X amp, add another aditional 300X amp and has a passive that makes it virtully imposible to get close to.

Hakruou is considered a "physical swordsman in the verse".... His Hax are either "skill" or "aura"...

His speed amp is still "perceptional," not a straight-up movement speed.

Where did you get the new 300x speed amp from?

The Aura grows with time, so the longer the fight takes the stronger it is, but yeah to "humans" it is the worst, especially to non-magic users. (tensura aura, has loads of quarks that make it possible to "resist", it is just that Obito has none of them...)

How on earth did the tier setter even harm this dude with TK if he needs smth better than CM, IM and AE npi

Got out of his range, and forced Hakurou to drop Haze, and managed to kill him...

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Yep...


I couldn't be happier, you got rid or Lay and Reaper pick, both would have taken it...


Hakruou is considered a "physical swordsman in the verse".... His Hax are either "skill" or "aura"...

His speed amp is still "perceptional," not a straight-up movement speed.

Where did you get the new 300x speed amp from?

The Aura grows with time, so the longer the fight takes the stronger it is, but yeah to "humans" it is the worst, especially to non-magic users. (tensura aura, has loads of quarks that make it possible to "resist", it is just that Obito has none of them...)


Got out of his range, and forced Hakurou to drop Haze, and managed to kill him...

soooooo obito can fly up and and just wait than nuke the place right or TK?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

soooooo obito can fly up and and just wait than nuke the place right or TK?

Nope, Hakurou can fly... just not high...

 

[Shadowslash125]

I feel like I'm on the grill for adding a funny rule to have an attempt at salvaging whatever hodgepodge this has become, only to find said rule actually benefitted someone to my dismay.

Deserved? Perhaps...

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

I feel like I'm on the grill for adding a funny rule to have an attempt at salvaging whatever hodgepodge this has become, only to find said rule actually benefitted someone to my dismay.

Deserved? Perhaps...

Tbf, I fully believed that was already the rules to start off with... (I assumed since it was an arena, and most arena fights have such elimination rules....)

 

[FARLANDER3305]

Wait but what if hakurou cuts telekinesis or just use his aura again when shockrock tried to use telekinesis on hım lmfao

 

[FARLANDER3305]

Biggest Question is That what if hakurou cuts an energy attack
İs shockrock gonna get effected cuz he is made out of same energy

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Wait but what if hakurou cuts telekinesis or just use his aura again when shockrock tried to use telekinesis on hım lmfao

Telekinesis is an ability that quite literally "spawns on" the user, thus can't be cut or intercepted...

 

[AlexSamDen]

Biggest Question is That what if hakurou cuts an energy attack
İs shockrock gonna get effected cuz he is made out of same energy

"Attack" and "Person" are treated differently by Tensura standards

Unless they themselves are the attack

But in this case - no

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Biggest Question is That what if hakurou cuts an energy attack
İs shockrock gonna get effected cuz he is made out of same energy

Unless he attacks with a part of himself, while connected (physically) with himself, the answer will be no.

 

[DavidTPPM]

I feel like I'm on the grill for adding a funny rule to have an attempt at salvaging whatever hodgepodge this has become, only to find said rule actually benefitted someone to my dismay.

Deserved? Perhaps...

It's whatever, shit happens ig.

It's just really funny and kinda frustrating to just kill the whole point of the tier setter in the finale.