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Punishing Gray Raven Discussion Thread (New)

Xdsagecat said:
I'm not really sure myself. Just trying to get peoples thoughts on it first before trying anything concrete. Would need a decent amount of people with how extensive the lore is etc etc
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The game desperately needs an actual proper wiki for lore, so I'm open to helping and can ask some others. Do you have high experience with working on wiki pages?
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
The game desperately needs an actual proper wiki for lore, so I'm open to helping and can ask some others. Do you have high experience with working on wiki pages?
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Na lol, think of me more as a promoter rather than the guy who actually knows how it works 😭
 
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Hello everyone, this CRT's pretty minor just gonna be adding or modifying some things The Red Tide will have low-mid regen negation as it was able to stop Vonnegut from regenerating his wounds Ascendants and special Transcendants like Noan will have presence concealment for being able to...
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Alright,I think I see where my confusion stems from. It seems to me ishmael is only taking about agent zero/contaminating memetic, not CC itself.



I'm thinking
CC = (agent zero/contaminating memetic + shell) * time travel capsule

current PV(shell) = potential PV - agent zero
 
Xdsagecat said:
Alright,I think I see where my confusion stems from. It seems to me ishmael is only taking about agent zero/contaminating memetic, not CC itself.
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Chaos Contamination (CC) is the Contaminating Memetics, they are just used interchangeably, same with Black Star. I mention this in the PV page summary under CC, but well I don't fault you for being confused, the verse is very dense and I don't expect everybody to know it like the back of their hand like I do. I'll have a cosmology blog out within the next month or two probably which will make understanding these kinds of things a lot easier
Xdsagecat said:
I'm thinking
CC = (agent zero/contaminating memetic + shell) * time travel capsule
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Uhh, remove shell and yes, that's what it is
Xdsagecat said:
current PV(shell) = potential PV - agent zero
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If AZ in this context refers to Cradle and not AZ's authority that Cradle absorbed, then yes
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
Chaos Contamination (CC) is the Contaminating Memetics, they are just used interchangeably, same with Black Star. I mention this in the PV page summary under CC, but well I don't fault you for being confused, the verse is very dense and I don't expect everybody to know it like the back of their hand like I do. I'll have a cosmology blog out within the next month or two probably which will make understanding these kinds of things a lot easier

Uhh, remove shell and yes, that's what it is

If AZ in this context refers to Cradle and not AZ's authority that Cradle absorbed, then yes
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Hop on the discord, it appears my fears are true after all. The consensus of the lore on vsbw and disc is different
 
Xdsagecat said:
Hop on the discord, it appears my fears are true after all. The consensus of the lore on vsbw and disc is different
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Yeah I'm aware, a lot of people don't understand the lore. Also, I don't talk in the PGRO server, if you want me to add you privately though I don't mind
 
Oh okay, I checked the server. What PromptedSpoon is saying is correct, he doesn't have to use the term "shell" multiple times though as the shell of CC specifically refers to the PV we got at the start of the story, but that checks out
 
Meduko said:
First time commenting on here but if PGR gets higher than low 1-A which of the characters would scale there?
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If that ever happens, which is pretty unlikely since L1A is alr high as is, probably the characters who already scale to Low 1-A
 
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To my current knowledge the true forms of the observers exist in the stellar sea which is beyond delorean nanami and the hetero tower/the gate

Through not much is currently known about the stellar sea besides what is mentioned in chapter 33
 
Meduko said:
On another topic i wonder if delorean nanami will ever be playable
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We're hoping, considering current Nanami should have become her by now, it's very likely that the next one will be her (well most likely a Projection of her) but yeah
 
If i am getting this right the whole projection power only applies for the observers and the beings higher than them

Nanami on the other hand is her own unique entity below the observers and her avatar creation is limited to only delorean discovery
 
Meduko said:
If i am getting this right the whole projection power only applies for the observers and the beings higher than them

Nanami on the other hand is her own unique entity below the observers and her avatar creation is limited to only delorean discovery
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Yeah
 
Oh well if kuro wants to make this version of nanami playable they will probably make up a reason like ishmael helping nanami create her own projections or something related to the M.I.N.D connection
 
Yeah there's a lot of good stuff this chapter, holy moly, we're eating good
 
Supreme_chaos18 said:
Can't wait to see the new alpha profile
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Alpha lovers (myself included) all going to love it, from how embarrassing CW was in lore to genuinely being one of the strongest characters in the verse now...our girl has come a long way (also she has one of the better written arcs now...jesus ch 41 was so peak man), anyways because we still have a few things left and profiles hers will have to wait a bit, but it'll be done in the very near future
 
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