Mountain level naruto and the CONFUSION OF DE HIGHEST ODAH

[Uzil-IVrei]

Part 1
maybe I haven't done enough research, maybe I'm just wrong, or maybe I'm tweaking out of my mind for no reason but like... how is part 1 Naruto Mountain level???

lets see starting from Naruto's Ap
Naruto scales to Mountain level (100 Megatons) in his One tail Kyubi cloak because much stronger than his Kyubi Influence state and he verwhelmed Three Tomoe Sasuke, forcing him into using CS1, and then CS2, so he scales from Three Tomoe Sasuke, lets see where Three Tomoe Sasuke's Durability scales.

"Survived attacks from KN1 Naruto" Ok.... so a circle, Naruto's KN1 AP scales from Three Tomoe Sasuke's Durability which is scaled from KN1 Naruto's AP... Whatever, lets continue but this time for Sasuke's AP

Three Tomoe Sasuke is Mountain level because fully acclimating to the power of his Curse Mark and fully maturing his Sharingan, he was able to completely overwhelm KN0 Naruto, KN0 is Kyubi influence I assume, so he scales off of KN0 Naruto's Durability, lets see his durability while he's in KN0... hm... City level+... ok maybe its a mistake and the wiki meant KN1... ah, seems like KN1 scales to Sasuke's AP, doesn't say which Key but its most likely Three Tomoe Sasuke Key since its the only Key with Mountain level not including CS1 which just says "Higher", but its not talking about that since the scale specifically says 100 Megatons which Note's to Three Tomoe Sasuke, but getting back to track this yet again means one thing

Sasuke's AP is Mountain level because he overwhelmed KN0 Naruto (Who isn't mountain level) but lets say its a mistake and they meant KN1, that means his AP scales from KN1's Durability which scales from... Sasuke's AP.... that's 2 loops now...

now for Part 2 of this thread
the god damn weird ass 100 Megatons... like how is it exactly 100 Megatons, must be one extremely special as calc huh, NOPE, there is no calc, that scale is entirely based off Hebi Sasuke in his One Tomoe Sharingan Key who mind you doesn't scale to 100 Megatons, he scales to Itachi's 139.2 Megatons, the reason everyone for some odd reason scales from a character that said character doesn't even scale to is because there is a baseline for 100 Megatons! how do Naruto and Sasuke scale to a Future Sasuke is beyond me, and the fact said Baseline makes no sense either, like why is it there? just scale them to the 139.2 Megatons, mind you Taka Sasuke scales to the 100 Megatons with the Sharingan, it doesn't specify how many Tomoes but that hardly matters... HE GOT WEAKER? Why How like you can say he got weaker because he lost the curse mark but those scales are for the Sharingan not the curse mark, and it makes no sense for part 1 Naruto and Sasuke to scale to scale to part 2, because the scales don't line up

Part 1 Naruto in his Kyubi infuence: Durability is City level+ and his AP is City level+
Part 2 Naruto in base: City level+ Durability and City level+ AP
So part 2 Naruto's base is as strong as KN0 so we can cross off that they scale from that in any way

Part 1 Sasuke base: Multi City block durability and City level+ AP with Chidori
part 2 Sasuke in base: City level+ Durability and City level+ in AP
so that's also cleared off, they can't scale from the base forms of part 2

If the scale from keys that aren't base it makes no sense since those scales and characters have no connection to part 1 scaling for Naruto and Sasuke and they severely over power those part 1 characters in scaling and in logic, I feel like I'm talking all over the place, am I making sense? everything just keeps looping around and connecting to dead ends and doors that just lead back to nothing, let me calm down and step back to squar 1

part 3

here is the chain and I will mark every leep with Bolding.
Part 1 KN1 = Mountain level, why? because of Sasuke's durability which is Mountain level, why? because he took attacks from KN1 Naruto, and Sasuke's AP is Mountain level because he can hurt KN0 Naruto who doesn't have mountain level durability, and the characters scale to 100 Megatons because of Scales from part 2 and they scale in part 2 to 100 Megatons NOT in base and not from a calc, it was decided they just scale there as a baseline which is UNDER the scale of the character they are being scaled from.

Now what I want to see is either all this goes away (abolish it)
Or
Explain to me why I'm wrong (I feel like I'm just blabbing nonesense so calm me down please and tell me I'm tweaking)

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Naruto’s 7A is from scaling from 7B+ which is not allowed per rules however it is acknowledged as an outdated profile

 

[Uzil-IVrei]

Naruto’s 7A is from scaling from 7B+ which is not allowed per rules however it is acknowledged as an outdated profile

all his 7B+ scales are 53.15 Kilotons, the mountain level scale is exactly 100 Megatons, KN1 would have to be a 1.88x amp, that just sounds bogus and nothing leads to that, also on the Naruto verse page for the shippuden AP notes it says that characters who scale to 100 Megatons exactly are being baseline scaled from Hebi Sasuke

"The lower 7-A characters such as Kisame Hoshigaki, Killer B and Taka Sasuke scale to baseline (100 megatons) via downscaling from Hebi Sasuke."
which also doesn't make sense to me, although I'm glad the part 1 Naruto page is acknowlnedged as an outdated, and btw Naruto's page also has no Stamina, its blank

 

[Kaydee1648]

For the love of *****, if you don’t know how and why a character scales to a certain level, you should ask directly about it in the verse’s general discussion instead of making a CRT. That’s why the thread exists in the first place. And who knows, there might be knowledgeable members planning on revising it.

Back to the topic, this thread pretty much contains most of the stuff you’re asking about. So if you still disagree with it after reading it, your CRT should directly counter the arguments presented there.

 

[Uzil-IVrei]

For the love of *****, if you don’t know how and why a character scales to a certain level, you should ask directly about it in the verse’s general discussion instead of making a CRT. That’s why the thread exists in the first place. And who knows, there might be knowledgeable members planning on revising it.

Back to the topic, this thread pretty much contains most of the stuff you’re asking about. So if you still disagree with it after reading it, your CRT should directly counter the arguments presented there.

I'd like to say this isn't a CRT, its me angrily rambling, but thank you
i'll go read

Also the characters pages directly loop each other for why the scale to 7A

 

[DavidTPPM]

I'd like to say this isn't a CRT, its me angrily rambling

Which can be done in the verse general discussion thread without making unnecessary threads

Also the characters pages directly loop each other for why the scale to 7A

Alt already told you, this part of the verses scaling is outdated and will be revised (hopefully soon enough).

Unless you're planning on proposing a better scaling, there's no point in this thread

 

[Uzil-IVrei]

Which can be done in the verse general discussion thread without making unnecessary threads

Alt already told you, this part of the verses scaling is outdated and will be revised (hopefully soon enough).

Unless you're planning on proposing a better scaling, there's no point in this thread

tbh I didn't know there was a verse discussion page, I made the thread because I thought that's how it works when you wanna talk about something, I'm writing what I think down although I realized half way that would make a lot of characters scale differently

 

[Uzil-IVrei]

this thread
I love it, it eased my brain, but this just means the 100 megatons scale is a guesstimation which I don't like, and I still don't see a reason for part 1 Naruto and Sasuke to scale part 2 scaling (or more spacifically the 100 Megaton scale)

I don't like the guesstimation because the baseline is practically just there to keep said characters Mountain level, instead of just taking 39.2 Megatons just to scale them to Hebi Sasuke's 139.2 Megatons scale, lets NOT scale them to it... lets scale Three Tomoe Sasuke to Kyubi infuence Naruto, then take that scale and multiply it by 10, so it goes from 53.15 Megatons to 531.5 Megatons, which is Mountain level and stronger than the actual one being used

also I realized half way that this would make anyone who scales to the 139.2 Megaton scale weaker than part 1 CS2 Sasuke so... idk anymore, maybe they can scale to that too or just unquantifiably much higher?

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

tbh I didn't know there was a verse discussion page, I made the thread because I thought that's how it works when you wanna talk about something, I'm writing what I think down although I realized half way that would make a lot of characters scale differently

Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

https://vsbattles.com/threads/super-perfect-cell-vs-boruto-and-kawaki-otsutsuki-vs-bio-android.191158/

vsbattles.com

this thread
I love it, it eased my brain, but this just means the 100 megatons scale is a guesstimation which I don't like, and I still don't see a reason for part 1 Naruto and Sasuke to scale part 2 scaling (or more spacifically the 100 Megaton scale)

I don't like the guesstimation because the baseline is practically just there to keep said characters Mountain level, instead of just taking 39.2 Megatons just to scale them to Hebi Sasuke's 139.2 Megatons scale, lets NOT scale them to it... lets scale Three Tomoe Sasuke to Kyubi infuence Naruto, then take that scale and multiply it by 10, so it goes from 53.15 Megatons to 531.5 Megatons, which is Mountain level and stronger than the actual one being used

also I realized half way that this would make anyone who scales to the 139.2 Megaton scale weaker than part 1 CS2 Sasuke so... idk anymore, maybe they can scale to that too or just unquantifiably much higher?

All will be fixed in upcoming CRTs, for now the verse is heavily outdated. If you see anything that doesn’t make sense, assume it’s due to it being outdated

 

[Uzil-IVrei]

Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

https://vsbattles.com/threads/super-perfect-cell-vs-boruto-and-kawaki-otsutsuki-vs-bio-android.191158/

vsbattles.com

All will be fixed in upcoming CRTs, for now the verse is heavily outdated. If you see anything that doesn’t make sense, assume it’s due to it being outdated

thanks man, you da best, for any up coming CRTs keep in mind Part 1 Naruto's stamina, its completely blank

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

thanks man, you da best, for any up coming CRTs keep in mind Part 1 Naruto's stamina, its completely blank

Nards stamina is there, its labeled under

Superhuman (blah blah blah)

 

[Uzil-IVrei]

Nards stamina is there, its labeled under

Superhuman (blah blah blah)

if that's the case sorry to be a bother, seems like its a problem on my end and it just won't show up. its fine tho, I can prob get it fixed for me.

 

[BlackeJan]

Can’t wait for Base Naruto to get revised cause gosh damn hit profile is outdated