(STAFF ONLY) Issues with Seven Deadly Sins 4-B rating

[speedster352]

I think we should axe that 5% scaling next. Will get into it later.

To be fair the main cast, when reduced to tier 6, should not be able to survive attacks from the DK or SD who would be tier 5. It wouldn't really make sense if the mid and high tiers were not close in scaling, especially after power boost and pugatory training(For Ban)

 

[M3X_2.0]

DK or SD who would be tier 5

Anyways, scaling can be dealt in a different thread.

 

[RitsuØ1]

Agree with the downgrade.

 

[Makai641001]

Introduction

The Seven Deadly Sins verse is currently rated at Solar System level, but this rating rests on a single outlier feat rather than any consistent display of power throughout the series. The verse has no Universal Energy System, meaning there's no in-universe framework that would justify characters passively or casually scaling to astronomical levels of energy, and the actual combat showings reflect this: characters at their peak, fighting without restraint, produce results in the Tier 7 to 6 range, with the most impressive being a combined full-power attack from all Seven Deadly Sins, multiplied several times over, wiping out Britannia. That's a continent-level output, nowhere near Solar System level. Both of these points together make a strong case that the current rating needs to come down.

The Outlier Problem

Example 1:

Unsealed Meliodas was responsible for the destruction of Danafor, which obliterated the entire area several kilometers deep. His combat class in that form was 32,500, rising to 56,000 with the Demon Mark, the form he was in when he destroyed Danafor. The destruction of the kingdom showcased both Meliodas' power and how dangerous he becomes when he loses control of it, and at that point it was by far the most destructive feat we had seen in the verse.

Merlin then explains that she sealed away his power because he was too strong and too dangerous, adding that Liones, another kingdom, would have suffered the same fate, implying that even for these characters, obliterating an area several kilometers wide and deep is considered an insane feat, one that required countermeasures.

AP≠DC
The author wouldn’t destroy his only setting.

Example 2:

The most powerful attacks in the series don't use anything close to "Solar System level" at their benchmark; in fact they are consistently suggested to be well below it.

The Seven Deadly Sins' ultimate combo move "Nemesis" was formed by all seven of them using extremely powerful techniques, after being boosted by Merlin, and then being combined into a single attack, which is then multiplied several times over by Meliodas using his Full Counter on it multiple times, and despite all of that, the Demon King states that "there is no telling what will happen to Britannia" if that quantity of magic is released. Zeldris backs this up by stating that their combo move was powerful enough to wipe out Britannia.

The attack’s Power was so strong it was used to activate the Lake and wasn’t absorbed entirely.

Said Lake is a storage for infinite magical water.

It's almost as bad as if the characters were supposed to be Galaxy level, and someone else said that their ultimate combo move had enough power to destroy the Moon.

In the sequel series, Four Knights of the Apocalypse, Cath - who has the majority of Chaos which is the strongest power in the series, has to charge up a powerful attack that is by all indications superior to the attacks he's used so far to inflict lethal injuries against the Sins, and he states that he will use it to "wipe Britannia off the map". So this is another incredibly powerful display of strength in the series being compared to wiping out a single country.

AP≠DC Lancelot destroyed the infinite dimension by physically drinking it’s infinite water supply

The Lack Of UES

In Seven Deadly Sins, a character's combat class is explicitly divided into three separate components: Magic (the strength of their magical powers), Force (physical strength), and Spirit (perseverance and willpower). This distinction matters because the series itself treats these as independent metrics rather than a unified power level.

A character can have an enormous Magic stat while having a relatively modest Force stat, and vice versa. This means that even within the verse's own internal framework, physical strikes don't automatically scale to magical feats, and magical feats don't automatically scale to physical output. Any argument that uses a magical feat to boost a character's striking power, or uses raw combat class totals as a single unified AP figure, is already working against how the verse actually quantifies its characters.
One of the clearest examples of magic and physical strength scaling separately is Merlin. She is one of the most powerful mages in the verse, and her Combat Class reflects that: when first revealed, her total was 4,710, with 3,540 points in Magic, only 70 in Strength, and 1,100 in Spirit. Unsurprisingly, Merlin has no notable physical combat feats to speak of; she relies entirely on her magic to deal damage, which is exactly what you'd expect from someone with a Strength stat that low. The numbers aren't decorative, they actually describe how the character fights.

As stated by the UES page:

Universal Energy Systems (alternatively called a Universal Power System or a Connective Energy System) are systems in which a feat, whether it is one of physical statistics (Striking Strength or Durability) or of supernatural powers (e.g. energy beams), would also scale to all other statistics if they use the same amount of effort or energy.

1) Power lvls were nuked by the author
2) Merlin is not a physical fighter therefore she wouldn’t channel her Power inside her body to hit people with fists.
3) ALL characters can channel their magic inside their own body and/or use it as enchantments on their weapons

Gowther follows the same pattern. His total Combat Class was 3,100, with 1,300 in Magic and only 500 in Strength, again showing a character whose offensive output is overwhelmingly magical rather than physical.

Same goes for him

It should be noted that systems don't need to be continously active. Some systems might only enhance statistics while the character physically channels energy though their body, while other systems do so passively as long as energy is available.

What makes this even more damning for the UES argument is that verse supporters didn't even apply it consistently when it was accepted. Merlin's Striking Strength is listed as "Unknown" on her profile, not Solar System level. In a genuine UES verse, magic and physical output scale linearly together, so every stat would converge at the same rating. The fact that Merlin's profile explicitly separates her magical and physical potency, and that her Striking Strength remains unrated, is an acknowledgment built into the profiles themselves that this verse does not work that way. You can't argue for UES while leaving the most magic-dependent character in the verse with an unknown physical rating. That's a contradiction, and it's sitting right there in the wiki's own pages.

It’s not

The verse also has the opposite case: pure physical fighters, or characters who rely primarily on brute strength rather than magic. Galand is the most extreme example, sitting at 26,000 Combat Class with exactly zero points in Magic at the time of his reveal. Every point of his combat power was physical. On the other end of the spectrum, Meliodas after having his powers restored reached 32,500 total, with 27,700 in Strength and only 2,700 in Magic, making him a character who is overwhelmingly physical even while having some magical ability.

This cuts both ways against the UES argument. If the verse were a UES verse, Galand's complete absence of Magic points would be irrelevant, since his physical and magical output would scale to the same rating regardless. But that's clearly not how the verse treats him. His zero Magic score is a meaningful descriptor of how he actually fights. Similarly, Meliodas having nearly ten times more Strength than Magic points reflects a genuine difference in how his physical and magical output compare, not a cosmetic distinction. The Combat Class system consistently tracks these differences because they are real differences, and that is fundamentally incompatible with the premise that all forms of output converge at the same tier.

The fight between Meliodas and the pair of Gloxinia and Drole drives this point home further. Gloxinia has a Combat Class of 50,000, with 47,000 of that being Magic and zero in Strength. Drole sits at 54,000, with 36,500 in Strength and 14,000 in Magic. Together they have a combined Combat Class that dwarfs Meliodas's 32,500, yet Meliodas stat stomps both of them with the Demon Mark, which makes his overral Combat Class 56,000. What makes this relevant is the breakdown: Meliodas has 50,000 in Strength against Gloxinia's literal zero. Gloxinia's massive Magic stat did not compensate for his complete lack of physical power when faced with someone whose strength dwarfs his own. The numbers predicted the outcome, and the outcome confirmed what the numbers were saying. Magic and physical strength are not interchangeable in this verse, and this fight is a direct in-universe demonstration of that.

Same

Conclusion

The Seven Deadly Sins verse is not Tier 4, and it does not qualify as a UES verse. The series has its own internal system for quantifying character power, and that system explicitly separates Magic and physical Strength as independent metrics. The profiles reflect this, the fights reflect this, and even the wiki's own pages reflect this, given that Merlin's Striking Strength sits at "Unknown" while her magic is rated highly. None of this is consistent with a verse where all output converges at the same tier.

Beyond the UES issue, the verse is narratively grounded. The story takes place on a single continent, the stakes revolve around kingdoms, gods, and demons operating within that world, and there is no engagement with cosmological or astronomical forces of any kind. Nothing in the series suggests the characters are operating at a scale anywhere near Solar System level. The 4-B calc is an outlier that contradicts both the internal power system and the consistent portrayal of the verse across hundreds of chapters.

The 4-B calc should be removed and the UES status revoked. They're gonna scale to the Tier 5 calcs, for now.

Yet infinite dimensions are physically destroyed by Lancelot.

Cath explicitely said that he would destroy all forms with complete chaos powers by eating everything (infinite/interdimensional range)

Cath can take the input of eating the entirety of Chaos.

Arthur’s body could hold the entirety of Chaos surging inside him

Without the same magic Chaos use to enhance his body by channeling it inside the Low 2-C infinite Lake dimension instantly collapse which shows he is a necessary existence to it.

They can channel the exact same source of Power they have inside their bodies

 

[Robo432343]

agree with op

 

[M3X_2.0]

Honestly this is such an ass debunk I can't believe you waste time writing it.

1) Power lvls were nuked by the author

It absolutely doesn't matter. Combat Class was present in the entirety of the Seven Deadly Sins manga, and it was the basis of the power system. The fact the author made it clear that strength and magic are rated separately means they do not scale together.

2) Merlin is not a physical fighter therefore she wouldn’t channel her Power inside her body to hit people with fists.

Nah, it's not because of that and you know it. Merlin doesn't have the strength necessary, it's not about "channeling her power", that's not even the base for high strength in the verse, it's the strength combat class points. Why are we making up shit for nothing now?

3) ALL characters can channel their magic inside their own body and/or use it as enchantments on their weapons

Nope, not all of them, and not with magic. What makes characters strong is their strength points in the combat class system, you don't need to channel magic through your body, and that almost never happened, the only case I can think of is Meliodas using darkness to punch Gloxinia and Drole, but that's darkness, anyway.

You're making up new mechanics for a verse that made it clear that you're strong via strength points in combat class.

Same goes for him

It’s not

Same

Please do not make me waste my time writing something since you're not gonna reply properly. All you do is repeat "AP =/= DC" like DC isn't the exact feats they have.

 

[Makai641001]

Honestly this is such an ass debunk I can't believe you waste time writing it.

It absolutely doesn't matter. Combat Class was present in the entirety of the Seven Deadly Sins manga, and it was the basis of the power system. The fact the author made it clear that strength and magic are rated separately means they do not scale together.

So you’re using something irrelevant to NNT/4KOTA as it was nuked and want it to be applied ?

Nah, it's not because of that and you know it. Merlin doesn't have the strength necessary, it's not about "channeling her power", that's not even the base for high strength in the verse, it's the strength combat class points. Why are we making up shit for nothing now?

Everybody in the series can channel their magical powers through their bodies.
UES doesn’t need to be constantly active, in fact if the character doesn’t use the same effort in physicals/magical attacks it doesn’t really matter

Nope, not all of them, and not with magic. What makes characters strong is their strength points in the combat class system, you don't need to channel magic through your body, and that almost never happened, the only case I can think of is Meliodas using darkness to punch Gloxinia and Drole, but that's darkness, anyway.

Enchantments amps physicals without being physical points.

Mael channeling magic in his hands, Escanor on his finger, Percival on his hands etc… etc…

You're making up new mechanics for a verse that made it clear that you're strong via strength points in combat class.

Which was nuked

Please do not make me waste my time writing something since you're not gonna reply properly. All you do is repeat "AP =/= DC" like DC isn't the exact feats they have.

You’re wasting everyone’s time with a thread and you seemingly didn’t read the UES page.

Also, an infinite dimension was physically destroyed by Lancelot.

Cath explicitely said that he would destroy all forms with complete chaos powers by eating everything (infinite/interdimensional range)

Cath can take the input of eating the entirety of Chaos.

Arthur’s body could hold the entirety of Chaos surging inside him after the entire magical Power of the lake hit him to awaken Chaos.

Without the same magic Chaos use to enhance his body by channeling it inside the Low 2-C infinite Lake dimension instantly collapse which shows he is a necessary existence to it.

They can channel the exact same source of Power they have inside their bodies to amp physicals

Depriving their body from their magic/Darkness weakens the characters to the point were they faint or die

Ingesting the magical Power of the lake amped Jericho’s physicals.

We have physical feats of the characters destroying Low 2-C structures, stating they can do so, and taking infinite inputs of energy.

 

[Planck69]

"AP =/= DC" is explanation for why a character that has solid evidence for scaling to say, Star level isn't constantly nuking the planet every time they fight. It is not a get-out-of-jail-free card for when they only perform Tier 6 feats 99% of the time and maybe have a Tier 4 feat somewhere.

 

[Arkenis]

What would the scaling be then? Because the god tiers should still be tier 5, and for the characters to be 1000x weaker wouldn't make sense with commandments who have 5 percent of the DK powers.

Depends which calc God tiers would scale to, but they'd still be within the tier or just barely under. The 5% could also very well be exponential.

AP≠DC
The author wouldn’t destroy his only setting.

Nakaba has the characters mention destruction of entire countries being destroyed wdym. The Behemoth was going to destroy the demon world. Settings can be destroyed but this also doesn't mean no other feat would be shown. This sorta idea is essentially asking that we accept characters being a certain tier without a UES to back it up, but also accept that they scale to the god tier's feat which that itself has problems on being used cuz again the UES doesn't support it.

 

[Makai641001]

"AP =/= DC" is explanation for why a character that has solid evidence for scaling to say, Star level isn't constantly nuking the planet every time they fight. It is not a get-out-of-jail-free card for when they only perform Tier 6 feats 99% of the time and maybe have a Tier 4 feat somewhere.

Lancelot destroyed an infinite space by physically drinking an infinite source of Power, Nemesis was not absorbed entirely by said infinite source of Power.

Complete chaos can destroy all forms with infinite range by physically eating everything

 

[M3X_2.0]

So you’re using something irrelevant to NNT/4KOTA as it was nuked and want it to be applied ?

How is it irrelevant? Did you miss the part where I said it was relevant and present for the entirety of Seven Deadly Sins manga?

Combat Class was relevant, and Nakaba wrote the whole manga with it in mind. The power system did not automatically change because of that.

Everybody in the series can channel their magical powers through their bodies.

No they cannot. Strength is defined by the Strength class in the Combat Class mechanic.

UES doesn’t need to be constantly active, in fact if the character doesn’t use the same effort in physicals/magical attacks it doesn’t really matter

That has nothing to do with UES.

Enchantments amps physicals without being physical points.

Mael channeling magic in his hands, Escanor on his finger, Percival on his hands etc… etc…

Channeling magic means absolutely nothing, the series established more than once that your strength is defined by your Strength points.

Why are you ignoring this and trying to act like SDS has a system like HxH or Naruto where they enhance their bodies with energy? SDS has a very specific stat for strength, and that’s what defines it.

Which was nuked

In the new series, sure.

You’re wasting everyone’s time with a thread and you seemingly didn’t read the UES page.

Also, an infinite dimension was physically destroyed by Lancelot.

Cath explicitely said that he would destroy all forms with complete chaos powers by eating everything (infinite/interdimensional range)

Cath can take the input of eating the entirety of Chaos.

Arthur’s body could hold the entirety of Chaos surging inside him after the entire magical Power of the lake hit him to awaken Chaos.

Without the same magic Chaos use to enhance his body by channeling it inside the Low 2-C infinite Lake dimension instantly collapse which shows he is a necessary existence to it.

They can channel the exact same source of Power they have inside their bodies to amp physicals

lol

 

[Cipher72]

It is not a get-out-of-jail-free card for when they only perform Tier 6 feats 99% of the time and maybe have a Tier 4 feat somewhere.

One thing I would like to add to this explanation is that there's no Tier 4 DC feat. AP≠DC is a fine argument but the characters as far as I know is scaled via scaling to the Demon King who has a Tier 4 creation feat calc with notably no Tier 4 Destruction feat. Neither does any of the other characters.

 

[Makai641001]

Depends which calc God tiers would scale to, but they'd still be within the tier or just barely under. The 5% could also very well be exponential.


Nakaba has the characters mention destruction of entire countries being destroyed wdym. The Behemoth was going to destroy the demon world. Settings can be destroyed but this also doesn't mean no other feat would be shown. This sorta idea is essentially asking that we accept characters being a certain tier without a UES to back it up, but also accept that they scale to the god tier's feat which that itself has problems on being used cuz again the UES doesn't support it.

Though there’s a UES it was accepted and using something the author nuked in order to discredit it is pretty bad imo

I won’t Go into a flame war idrc do whatever

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yeah AP=/=DC is when you're powerscaling. Just because Garrosh Hellscream isn't threatening cities every time he fights doesn't mean he does not scale to approximately 1 shit ton of tier 7 shit(That being every Air Elemental's existence since they cause thunder storms regularly, Thrall making a thunderstorm, tsunami, and earthquake at the same time, Khadgar making an island-spanning storm, Illidan surviving sticking his hand into a Well of Eternity that was about to make a Pangea into separate continents multiple times, Animus, etcetera)

If it was JUST Animus, that's where the problem starts.

Lancelot destroyed an infinite space by physically drinking an infinite source of Power, Nemesis was not absorbed entirely by said infinite source of Power.

Complete chaos can destroy all forms with infinite range by physically eating everything

Okay and how many feats are those and what are the anti-feats?

 

[M3X_2.0]

"AP =/= DC" is explanation for why a character that has solid evidence for scaling to say, Star level isn't constantly nuking the planet every time they fight. It is not a get-out-of-jail-free card for when they only perform Tier 6 feats 99% of the time and maybe have a Tier 4 feat somewhere.

This “AP ≠ DC” excuse only works if you have a DC feat taking place, but what you have is a creation feat that happened off-screen, a completely wrong timeframe (1 day isn’t allowed for that), unknown mechanics behind the creation without a way to scale.

He’s trying to use it as a cop out.

 

[Da3ggman]

7 Deadly Tier 6 statements is crazy work

I agree.

 

[Makai641001]

Yeah AP=/=DC is when you're powerscaling. Just because Garrosh Hellscream isn't threatening cities every time he fights doesn't mean he does not scale to approximately 1 shit ton of tier 7 shit(That being every Air Elemental's existence since they cause thunder storms regularly, Thrall making a thunderstorm, tsunami, and earthquake at the same time, Khadgar making an island-spanning storm, Illidan surviving sticking his hand into a Well of Eternity that was about to make a Pangea into separate continents multiple times, Animus, etcetera)

If it was JUST Animus, that's where the problem starts.

Okay and how many feats are those and what are the anti-feats?

Gave the physical feats in previous messages ngl i won’t entertain this further but Using retconned elements to discard something is Mid

 

[Makai641001]

This “AP ≠ DC” excuse only works if you have a DC feat taking place, but what you have is a creation feat that happened off-screen, a completely wrong timeframe (1 day isn’t allowed for that), unknown mechanics behind the creation without a way to scale.

Already gave the DC feats tho

He’s trying to use it as a cop out.

Whatever

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Cath created a 4-A sized dimension and, more recently, used all of his magic to create the perfect guard. This is the creation feat that most clearly scales to the physical on the wiki.

An individual with only a fragment of Cath's power is stated to be capable of destroying a 4-A dimension. Therefore, level 4 is not something unimaginable for the verse.

I believe that the Sins of 4Koa should scale to level 4

 

[Makai641001]

Cath created a 4-A sized dimension and, more recently, used all of his magic to create the perfect guard. This is the creation feat that most clearly scales to the physical on the wiki.

An individual with only a fragment of Cath's power is stated to be capable of destroying a 4-A dimension. Therefore, level 4 is not something unimaginable for the verse.

I believe that the Sins of 4Koa should scale to level 4

Tier 9 Chaos cause it’s only the size of a small house

 

[DaReaperMan]

Gave the physical feats in previous messages

So... that's what, 4 actual feats vs how many anti-feats? Show me some casual tier 6 and 5 shit, stuff that's not a threat to anyone currently scaling tier tier ****** 4 and 3.

ngl i won’t entertain this further but Using retconned elements to discard something is Mid

Well maybe tell the author to put those retcons in the material. Circa, someone who scales World of Warcraft and enjoys the lore so deals with retcons every 2 damn minutes.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Cath created a 4-A sized dimension and, more recently, used all of his magic to create the perfect guard.

Same Cath who also charged up an attack that was just enough to destroy Britannia, nothing different from Nemesis.

You’re acting like Nakaba makes Cath have 4-A energy meanwhile he’s out there making a 6-B attack with this energy.

This is the creation feat that most clearly scales to the physical on the wiki.

No it absolutely doesn’t scale.

 

[SomebodyData]

After reading the arguments, I'm currently in agreement with M3X's points.

Already gave the DC feats tho

I might have missed them, could you provide them?

 

[M3X_2.0]

So... that's what, 4 actual feats vs how many anti-feats? Show me some casual tier 6 and 5 shit, stuff that's not a threat to anyone currently scaling tier tier ****** 4 and 3.

Read example 1 in the OP, it’s one of the most destructive attacks we’ve seen in the franchise, like genuinely 6-C or a but higher, and that was “too powerful” according to… 4-B characters.

 

[AmonInChains]

Agree with OP

 

[Makai641001]

So... that's what, 4 actual feats vs how many anti-feats?

Anti feats ? What anti feats ? Them not destroying the planet everything happens on ?

Show me some casual tier 6 and 5 shit, stuff that's not a threat to anyone currently scaling tier tier ****** 4 and 3.

Behemoth waking up being able to destroy the demon world (way bigger than earth) while also being weaker than 50% deities

Well maybe tell the author to put those retcons in the material. Circa, someone who scales World of Warcraft and enjoys the lore so deals with retcons every 2 damn minutes.

Ngl he kinda showed the correlation between magic and physicals when Jericho drank Some of the magic inside the lake dimension and physically became Thanos

 

[Demon_Lord18]

No they cannot. Strength is defined by the Strength class in the Combat Class mechanic.

Channeling magic through the body to increase strength is indeed possible. Meliodas does this against Cath, and Percival used to do it constantly before learning to imbue his weapon with magic to enhance his power. We also have the example of the Demon King absorbing magic from the lake and becoming stronger.
But I don’t know exactly how relevant this is for the CRT.

 

[Makai641001]

Same Cath who also charged up an attack that was just enough to destroy Britannia, nothing different from Nemesis.

You’re acting like Nakaba makes Cath have 4-A energy meanwhile he’s out there making a 6-B attack with this energy.

And Channeled the entirety of the Magic he has (4-B) into an armor

 

[Arkenis]

An individual with only a fragment of Cath's power is stated to be capable of destroying a 4-A dimension. Therefore, level 4 is not something unimaginable for the verse.

He's saying Annwfyn will be wiped here. Aka the prison. Is there some visuals showing Annwfyn is 4-A cuz it just looks like a big bowl.

Though there’s a UES it was accepted and using something the author nuked in order to discredit it is pretty bad imo

I won’t Go into a flame war idrc do whatever

Link the page.

 

[Kaydee1648]

An individual with only a fragment of Cath's power is stated to be capable of destroying a 4-A dimension. Therefore, level 4 is not something unimaginable for the verse.

Am I tripping, or does the scan linked actually mention nothing about a 4-A dimension being nuked? Like, the first scan literally says Annwyfn is going to be wiped off the surface of the MAP. I don’t know how the possible interpretation for that is destroying the entire 4-A dimension.

 

[Makai641001]

He's saying Annwfyn will be wiped here. Aka the prison. Is there some visuals showing Annwfyn is 4-A cuz it just looks like a big bowl.

The « prison » Is called « the cauldron » not Anfwynn

Link the page.

Demonlord possibly has it ngl it’S 2AM im going to Go to sleep

 

[Arkenis]

Am I tripping, or does the scan linked actually mention nothing about a 4-A dimension being nuked? Like, the first scan literally says Annwyfn is going to be wiped off the surface of the MAP. I don’t know how the possible interpretation for that is destroying the entire 4-A dimension.

Galactic map.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Anti feats ? What anti feats ? Them not destroying the planet everything happens on ?

Shit that's above "Damn, X got trapped under some rubble or is afraid of falling" but is still happens. This is not believable wank, so I will be against this.

Behemoth waking up being able to destroy the demon world (way bigger than earth) while also being weaker than 50% deities

...so... one. One whole casual feat. There's no "Malygos is going to crack the planet dear god stop him" or "This Titan Keeper casually made an entire sea and drops this kinda power on invaders" or "Deathwing just makes a bunch of tier 6 shit happen by literally waking up and moving around some".

Ngl he kinda showed the correlation between magic and physicals when Jericho drank Some of the magic inside the lake dimension and physically became Thanos

Can you grab that scan for me? Because if that indeed does happen then we can use that to back up the WoG and make it actually viable.

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Same Cath who also charged up an attack that was just enough to destroy Britannia, nothing different from Nemesis.

You’re acting like Nakaba makes Cath have 4-A energy meanwhile he’s out there making a 6-B attack with this energy.

Why exactly is saying he would destroy Britannia along with the Sins considered an anti-feat? He never says “I will use all my power to destroy Britannia.” In fact, he clearly wouldn’t do that, since he also thought the attack would be enough to kill Hawk, who ended up wiping everything out with just a sneeze. I don’t see how this Cath issue is being taken seriously.The same goes for the Demon King: he says “think about what will happen to Britannia” only to stop Meliodas from hitting him with the attack, since it would kill him. The Demon King doesn’t really care about Britannia, and it wouldn’t make sense for him to mention another place, because Meliodas only knows Britannia in the verse.

 

[Makai641001]

Am I tripping, or does the scan linked actually mention nothing about a 4-A dimension being nuked? Like, the first scan literally says Annwyfn is going to be wiped off the surface of the MAP. I don’t know how the possible interpretation for that is destroying the entire 4-A dimension.

Anfwynn is the name of the 4-A dimension, (one of the dimension Cath created Btw) and he used all his magic to create the shield that the sins could damage/Hawk one tapped

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Am I tripping, or does the scan linked actually mention nothing about a 4-A dimension being nuked? Like, the first scan literally says Annwyfn is going to be wiped off the surface of the MAP. I don’t know how the possible interpretation for that is destroying the entire 4-A dimension.

Where did you get “surface” from?

N-NO! GET BACK, EVERYONE! ANNWFYN'S GONNA BE WIPED OFF THE MAP!!

 

[karo_senpaii]

The fact that there is something called sacred treasure that helps characters draw out their full strength and it is nigh impossible for them to do so without it is the most blatant form of an author telling you that the mechanics of his system is not just "channel magical energy in everything and achieve the same result"

 

[Makai641001]

Shit that's above "Damn, X got trapped under some rubble or is afraid of falling" but is still happens. This is not believable wank, so I will be against this.

...so... one. One whole casual feat. There's no "Malygos is going to crack the planet dear god stop him" or "This Titan Keeper casually made an entire sea and drops this kinda power on invaders" or "Deathwing just makes a bunch of tier 6 shit happen by literally waking up and moving around some".

Waking up from his sleep is a casual planet buster (he is weaker than the 50% gods)

Cath created 4-A dimensions and channeled THE ENTIERTY of his magic into a shield that got destroyed

Can you grab that scan for me? Because if that indeed does happen then we can use that to back up the WoG and make it actually viable.

Ngl you’ll have to ask other supporters

 

[M3X_2.0]

Why exactly is saying he would destroy Britannia along with the Sins considered an anti-feat? He never says “I will use all my power to destroy Britannia.” In fact, he clearly wouldn’t do that, since he also thought the attack would be enough to kill Hawk, who ended up wiping everything out with just a sneeze. I don’t see how this Cath issue is being taken seriously.The same goes for the Demon King: he says “think about what will happen to Britannia” only to stop Meliodas from hitting him with the attack, since it would kill him. The Demon King doesn’t really care about Britannia, and it wouldn’t make sense for him to mention another place, because Meliodas only knows Britannia in the verse.

Are you genuinely writing a paragraph asking how a supposed 4-A character charges up an attack using energy from the most powerful being in the verse and then it ends up as just 6-B is an anti-feat

 

[Makai641001]

The fact that there is something called sacred treasure that helps characters draw out their full strength and it is nigh impossible for them to do so without it is the most blatant form of an author telling you that the mechanics of his system is not just "channel magical energy in everything and achieve the same result"

Amps from weapons does not contradict UES

Explain Cath’s 4-B shield getting destroyed