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(STAFF ONLY) Issues with Seven Deadly Sins 4-B rating

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1. The 5% Commandment scaling is not exponential, this notion is debunked by Estarossa vs Archangels
Wdym?

2. This second paragraph is, ironically, AP≠DC cope. The characters mention Brittania as it’s what they’re concerned with. It’s like asking why Goku’s worried about Broly destroying Earth if they’re actually universal.
Goku and everyone was worried about bro destroying the universe. So find another example. But nah, it doesn't work. If they all understand their threats and their own power, they'd respond with the world being threatened or more cuz the world is contextually important as this higher tier scaling would evidently lead us to, let alone the solar system. I'm more inclined to believe tier 5 scaling partially for this. Unless there's moments they say something more would be destroyed outright.
 
Cath, gaining Chaos abilities, threatens to destroy everything with a form. That’s possibly a universal statement. He then creates Camelot with numerous starry night skies. Chaos characters utilize said Chaos in their attacks, yet can be combatted by other characters.
It’s the same with Magic with lesser characters.
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Okay I'm gonna be real, this has nothing to do with what's quoted, you're just sayin' shit dawg. Creating something after threatening to destroy it all doesn't mean you scale to creating things, for the record.

Oh, and because it seems to be a problem, everyone needs to take a chill pill. This passed beyond banter at like page 4, and were on 6 now.
 
So what I gathered is that Cath had ate a piece of chaos. Cath also created a dimension. But this dimension isn't the one Demon King created, which is where the scaling comes from. Why is this Cath point relevant exactly?
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This is the 4-B dimension?

And I'm reading more, why does Merlin say Chaos created everything with a mere thought? I feel like this shoots the whole idea it took time or even energy when Chaos creates stuff through RW. Without us seeing them do it, why are we assuming DK created it with pure magic versus the same way Chaos did?
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Also, I likely don't have every feat, but they are describing Chaos, the SD and DK as equals. SD and DK can apparently seal Chaos, but also they create a balance between each other, and requires the other to be completely destroyed. I get its sorta a symbolic balance, but if Chaos is just 2-C or H3A then why aren't the SD and DK also? Which kinda makes me wonder why DK's feat, besides the likelihood he did it through RW, is even used to scale the characters.
I believe they are talking about the events during the sequel series where it’s revealed that Arthur was actually Cath Palug, whom created Camelot an entire dimension with countless subspaces in which some contains starry skies
 
So what I gathered is that Cath had ate a piece of chaos. Cath also created a dimension. But this dimension isn't the one Demon King created, which is where the scaling comes from. Why is this Cath point relevant exactly?
0339-009.png

This is the 4-B dimension?

And I'm reading more, why does Merlin say Chaos created everything with a mere thought? I feel like this shoots the whole idea it took time or even energy when Chaos creates stuff through RW. Without us seeing them do it, why are we assuming DK created it with pure magic versus the same way Chaos did?
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Also, I likely don't have every feat, but they are describing Chaos, the SD and DK as equals. SD and DK can apparently seal Chaos, but also they create a balance between each other, and requires the other to be completely destroyed. I get its sorta a symbolic balance, but if Chaos is just 2-C or H3A then why aren't the SD and DK also? Which kinda makes me wonder why DK's feat, besides the likelihood he did it through RW, is even used to scale the characters.
This is Cath in 7ds, I’m referring to the 4 knights version creating Camelot. And I mentioned it as it’s the same situation as the DK (same source for creation being used for magic attacks that distinctly DONT one shot people) and just the general argument I was responding to referencing Cath’s shield in recent chapters, made of all of the Chaos he contains (very literally using his creation source defensively)

Chaos created the Earth, DK, SD, and Sacred Tree with nothing more than an intention.

The DK and SD are equals, not Chaos. Making them equal would literally scale 80% of the verse to h3a or l2c, no less, which is far more absurd than Solar System level
 
I believe they are talking about the events during the sequel series where it’s revealed that Arthur was actually Cath Palug, whom created Camelot an entire dimension with countless subspaces in which some contains starry skies
But on Cath's page is that scan. Can I know the chapter for this subspace thing?
 
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Okay I'm gonna be real, this has nothing to do with what's quoted, you're just sayin' shit dawg. Creating something after threatening to destroy it all doesn't mean you scale to creating things, for the record.

Oh, and because it seems to be a problem, everyone needs to take a chill pill. This passed beyond banter at like page 4, and were on 6 now.
The last 4 pages have been like this. That’s the reason I stopped replying. For one, the thread was getting heated, and second, there is no point in making an argument if the opposition is gonna hit you with a “nuh uh” 30 seconds later. Comments with no substance made seconds after someone posts anything.

I just reported both, even.

Honestly, if there’s not a single useful comment until tomorrow I’m calling it a day and applying everything.
 
Wdym?


Goku and everyone was worried about bro destroying the universe. So find another example. But nah, it doesn't work. If they all understand their threats and their own power, they'd respond with the world being threatened or more cuz the world is contextually important as this higher tier scaling would evidently lead us to, let alone the solar system. I'm more inclined to believe tier 5 scaling partially for this. Unless there's moments they say something more would be destroyed outright.
This doesn’t answer the main argument tho.


Cath partially ate Chaos, created a 4-A dimension from existing material (calculated via normal means) accepted as 4-B per sec.
Let’s say UES is nuked, Cath would then only scale via his magic with Creation but not physically.

But Cath formed a shield using ALL of it’s Chaos magic which then translate into the chanelling of the energy system and would grant him durability on par with it’s magic because it was channeled ENTIRELY in it.

Using tier 6 statements to Call outliers while weaker characters are casual tier 5 busters is still not an argument.
 
The last 4 pages have been like this. That’s the reason I stopped replying. For one, the thread was getting heated, and second, there is no point in making an argument if the opposition is gonna hit you with a “nuh uh” 30 seconds later. Comments with no substance made seconds after someone posts anything.

I just reported both, even.

Honestly, if there’s not a single useful comment until tomorrow I’m calling it a day and applying everything.
Gotta wait 48 hours since thread creation to Close/Apply. Best to just... ignore it.
 
The last 4 pages have been like this. That’s the reason I stopped replying. For one, the thread was getting heated, and second, there is no point in making an argument if the opposition is gonna hit you with a “nuh uh” 30 seconds later. Comments with no substance made seconds after someone posts anything.

I just reported both, even.

Honestly, if there’s not a single useful comment until tomorrow I’m calling it a day and applying everything.
You can’t apply everything since New evidence dropped and you couldn’t dismiss it unfortunately it would only lead to a remake and ultimately a rebunk
 
You can’t apply everything since New evidence dropped and you couldn’t dismiss it unfortunately it would only lead to a remake and ultimately a rebunk
My question is will the profiles be edited to explain 4-B or any stats really instead of blatantly worshipping big number because big number makes dopamine?
 
You can’t apply everything since New evidence dropped and you couldn’t dismiss it unfortunately it would only lead to a remake and ultimately a rebunk
Nothing new was brought up. Absolutely nothing here justifies UES, you're fighting the rules, you're fighting the UES page. There is absolutely nothing in the verse to justify this.
 
My question is will the profiles be edited to explain 4-B or any stats really instead of blatantly worshipping big number because big number makes dopamine?
We are working on the profiles and fighting against endless bump voids sorry about that
(I love big numbers)

The mention of subspaces and how Camelot works is mentioned in 4kota chapter 157

I can’t remember what chapter that shows Annwyfm with a starry sky

Cath’s profile is also outdated too
First chapter in Anfwynn ngl i don’t remember which one it is

What new evidence? I didn't see anything unless it's buried underneath the useless back and forth that was happening
Cath partially ate Chaos, created a 4-A dimension from existing material (calculated via normal means) accepted as 4-B per sec.
Let’s say UES is nuked, Cath would then only scale via his magic with Creation but not physically.

But Cath formed a shield using ALL of it’s Chaos magic which then translate into the chanelling of the energy system and would grant him durability on par with it’s magic because it was channeled ENTIRELY in it.

Using tier 6 statements to Call outliers while weaker characters are casual tier 5 busters is still not an argument.
 
This is Cath in 7ds, I’m referring to the 4 knights version creating Camelot. And I mentioned it as it’s the same situation as the DK (same source for creation being used for magic attacks that distinctly DONT one shot people) and just the general argument I was responding to referencing Cath’s shield in recent chapters, made of all of the Chaos he contains (very literally using his creation source defensively)
I'm going by page. They put that scan.

Chaos created the Earth, DK, SD, and Sacred Tree with nothing more than an intention.
That sounds like a thought.

The DK and SD are equals, not Chaos. Making them equal would literally scale 80% of the verse to h3a or l2c, no less, which is far more absurd than Solar System level
Seems like an issue right? So why does Merlin speak of them as a balance, and say DK and SD were going to seal Chaos, and then say that isn't enough, one or the other has to be destroyed? That comes off like they are narratively comparable.

Cath partially ate Chaos, created a 4-A dimension from existing material (calculated via normal means) accepted as 4-B per sec.
Let’s say UES is nuked, Cath would then only scale via his magic with Creation but not physically.
Okay what chapter do we see him creating the dimension? That calc isn't on page either. Just DK's calc.

Using tier 6 statements to Call outliers while weaker characters are casual tier 5 busters is still not an argument.
But the only character who is tier 5 is Behemoth and apparently the DK was needed to fight that, when it was wreaking havoc in the demo world they were all afraid.
 
Literally shut the **** up

I already reported you and every comment you make makes it worse. Me and others don’t need your ironic ass offending everyone and saying a bunch of stupid things
LMFAO
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Come back to this website when you’re at least 13 and can articulate yourself beyond being offended by an anime argument.
 
Feat isn’t disputed once again.

The fact that it physically scales is.

Feat is already accepted and Neo camelot is specifically composed of existing materials which are to be calculated via normal means
The scaling the feat gives is being disputed because it in itself isn't enough for the tier due to its nature (Being a creation feat whose tier is an outlier for the verse and has many anti statements) from what I can read?
 
Nothing new was brought up. Absolutely nothing here justifies UES, you're fighting the rules, you're fighting the UES page. There is absolutely nothing in the verse to justify this.
And you just proved the fact that you avoid the entire point.

We don’t need UES

Erm he has like 4 staff votes, he really can lol.
They predate actual arguments from supporters therefore… no

cant wait to see the remake thread get rejected in less than 2 pages
It honestly would not be tho

Okay what chapter do we see him creating the dimension? That calc isn't on page either. Just DK's calc.
It’s stated and we made a thread about it
Demonlord has the calc
But the only character who is tier 5 is Behemoth and apparently the DK was needed to fight that, when it was wreaking havoc in the demo world they were all afraid.
50% DK slept his ass for entire millenias.
He is scary due to his hax
 
Cath partially ate Chaos, created a 4-A dimension from existing material (calculated via normal means) accepted as 4-B per sec
Link said calc
But Cath formed a shield using ALL of it’s Chaos magic which then translate into the chanelling of the energy system and would grant him durability on par with it’s magic because it was channeled ENTIRELY in it.
I man, from the scans he claimed to have put all of it into, but it seemed like he still had some magic left. What chapter was it again?
 
The scaling the feat gives is being disputed because it in itself isn't enough for the tier due to its nature (Being a creation feat whose tier is an outlier for the verse and has many anti statements) from what I can read?
Once again i dont like to repeat things tens of times.

The creation feat was done through magic, and don’t scale to physicals if no UES okay ?

Cath still Channeled the entirety of his Chaos inside a shield said magic created the tier 4 dimension
 
But on Cath's page is that scan. Can I know the chapter for this subspace thing?
Sorry, for some reason we have yet to update some of those older pages. The stuff i’m referring to is actually listed under 4 Knights Arthur as it wasn’t revealed to be Cath til like, 6 months ago or something(?)
 
LMFAO
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Come back to this website when you’re at least 13 and can articulate yourself beyond being offended by an anime argument.
My brother in Christ I'm not going anywhere, but I don't know about you, though, who's likely getting banned anyway. A user with less than 50 messages telling me to come back after I can articulate myself. Hilarious. You'd be lucky to not get a ban for being an ass for no reason other than someone disagreeing with you.
And you just proved the fact that you avoid the entire point.

We don’t need UES
Dude, for Christ's sake, STOP accusing me of avoiding or literally doing anything. Take my name off your mouth. Just reply to my comments and its content only. Is is that hard? I've never offended you here, I never accused you of nothing here. I'm not "avoiding" anything, I stopped replying because it wasn't going anywhere. You kept repeating the same points over and over again and everyone noticed that and told you to stop repeating it, you're stonewalling this thread for ages now.

The thread is about the creation of the demon realm, UES and outlier. I want to ask @KingTempest to remove any future comments that don't talk about these three specifc points. I can't believe we wasted 4 pages, going into the 7th page now, talking about everything that is NOT in the OP. And I also ask everyone to follow this, please.
 
The last 4 pages have been like this. That’s the reason I stopped replying. For one, the thread was getting heated, and second, there is no point in making an argument if the opposition is gonna hit you with a “nuh uh” 30 seconds later. Comments with no substance made seconds after someone posts anything.

I just reported both, even.

Honestly, if there’s not a single useful comment until tomorrow I’m calling it a day and applying everything.
I genuinely don’t know why you bothered making a thread if you’re not even willing to argue. You got instant votes because people hate this series, and then start cursing people out almost immediately in the face of counter arguments.
 
Link said calc
Demon lord has it profiles are outdated
I man, from the scans he claimed to have put all of it into, but it seemed like he still had some magic left. What chapter was it again?
He did not look at his form inside the Crystal

When it broke he got it back and transformed again

Chapter 229 and on iirc
 
We are working on the profiles and fighting against endless bump voids sorry about that
(I love big numbers)
Mate, when I edited profiles for the Warhammer Fantasy Upgrade, I included the explanation for the new tiering. When I look at Meliodas' profile, I can't find where 4-B comes from for the life of me without looking elsewhere.
You may as well change your name to ‘not reliable’ then. Comments like this make your ‘agree’ completely pointless and writes off anything you could say.
LMFAO
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Come back to this website when you’re at least 13 and can articulate yourself beyond being offended by an anime argument.
And it's comments like these that make me think this shit should be a staff thread.
I have done quite literally nothing. Acknowledge arguments before language.
A High-ranking Staff member tells you to cool it, and you double down.

@Planck69 I believe a threadban is in order, then major monitoring is needed due to the radioactive cesspool this thread has become.
 
I genuinely don’t know why you bothered making a thread if you’re not even willing to argue. You got instant votes because people hate this series, and then start cursing people out almost immediately in the face of counter arguments.
I'm willing to argue when the person makes legit points, takes their time to reply everything and most importantly, take this seriously. You're not doing that. Makai is not doing that.

And no one hates SDS, you're mistaking "We don't give a ****" with "We hate SDS". VS Battles Wiki is the only place in the ******* universe that entertain SOlar System level SDS, why the **** do you think we hate it?
 
Mate, when I edited profiles for the Warhammer Fantasy Upgrade, I included the explanation for the new tiering. When I look at Meliodas' profile, I can't find where 4-B comes from for the life of me without looking elsewhere.


And it's comments like these that make me think this shit should be a staff thread.

A High-ranking Staff member tells you to cool it, and you double down.

@Planck69 I believe a threadban is in order, then major monitoring is needed due to the radioactive cesspool this thread has become.
Yeah sorry we try to work on the profiles
 
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