The Incredibles - I GOT THIS !!! <---(Last incredibles movie he saw was 7 years ago)

[IDK3465]

Personally, I’d vouch for possibly 15 kilotons, as while nobody directly scales to the Omnidroid calc, having the durability scale thousands of times stronger than Bob when he can still take some hits from it (mainly that claw) as well as somewhat damage an earlier version just doesn’t make sense to me

So while he doesn’t actually scale, I’d say it still supports the rating due to the gap not being utterly insurmountable so as to be several tiers above

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Landon can correct me if I misinterpret his idea, but it's using the earthquake thing as a possibly rating, with High 8-C as the main rating for the top tiers. The Omnidroid will probably be the same, except the possibly rating comes from its own thing.

Oh, and 9-B, at most High 8-C, possibly 7-C for Elastigirl and the like.

I don't think I'd agree to even a possibly for the low tiers. We have, then, a single acceptable Tier 7 feat (this being the earthquake one) that would scale to particularly powerful Supers. From what I can tell, both Hypershock and Gamma Jack are considered much stronger than the low-tiers. I'd be more in favor of just keeping them at "At least 9-B+" and leaving the high tiers at "At least High 8-C, possibly 7-C", I think.

I would, of course, like to hear objections to this line of reasoning, as again, I haven't watched the Incredibles since it premiered, when I was essentially a brainless child.

 

[IDK3465]

Holy shit my phone is laggy

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I don't think I'd agree to even a possibly for the low tiers. We have, then, a single acceptable Tier 7 feat (this being the earthquake one) that would scale to particularly powerful Supers. From what I can tell, both Hypershock and Gamma Jack are considered much stronger than the low-tiers. I'd be more in favor of just keeping them at "At least 9-B+" and leaving the high tiers at "At least High 8-C, possibly 7-C", I think.

I would, of course, like to hear objections to this line of reasoning, as again, I haven't watched the Incredibles since it premiered, when I was essentially a brainless child.

That makes sense, although as shown, Elastigirl was able to harm Mr. Incredible multiple times prior to Mr. Incredible realizing who was attacking him.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

That makes sense, although as shown, Elastigirl was able to harm Mr. Incredible multiple times prior to Mr. Incredible realizing who was attacking him.

He makes the same sound when he falls over. I don't think these grunts are particularly relevant for scaling. the only time I get the impression she's actually winning (as opposed to him just not hurting her) is when she's strangling him, and that's moreso LS than AP. also is this an edited video with healthbars, for what purpose

 

[Rex_Eckles]

He makes the same sound when he falls over. I don't think these grunts are particularly relevant for scaling. the only time I get the impression she's actually winning (as opposed to him just not hurting her) is when she's strangling him, and that's moreso LS than AP. also is this an edited video with healthbars, for what purpose

Well, I made my case. Go with what your gut says.

 

[KingTempest]

What calculations are currently accepted?

 

[Rex_Eckles]

What calculations are currently accepted?

All of them, I'm pretty sure.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

What calculations are currently accepted?

All of them indeed. Gamma Jack's is not the Tier 7 end, though.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

yeah but he said "overall the 7-C calcs were okay" which includes that Gamma Jack calc. maybe just weird phrasing, I suppose.

no i meant just Omnidroid landing and Hypershock quake, i think i wrote all the other stuff in the main thread

So. What are we looking at, then. The sorta-kinda eqarthquake calc? I don't agree with the Omnidroid scaling to anyone, so. What else?

basically earthquake calc if you don't agree with the Omnidroid scaling (which is resonable).

Regardless of the doubt that the quake might not be a real quake (in whatever the tradutional sense might be) it still specifies that it's a magnetude 6.0 so... yeah

 

[KingTempest]

I saw some shit about a black hole dude but i'm not gonna push it

Earthquake puncher is fine, it's said that Mr. Incredible got more power than he does. Note that and scale off that for him.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

I saw some shit about a black hole dude but i'm not gonna push it

oh yeah i Remember that guy, multi con is so inconsistent for this verse lol

Earthquake puncher is fine, it's said that Mr. Incredible got more power than he does. Note that and scale off that for him.

ah good, if we got Bambu on here we might as well be done

 

[LandonTheGuy]

ok ima be real i had, it's late now so i'll add all of these changes tomorrow.

gn guyz

 

[IDK3465]

ok ima be real i had, it's late now so i'll add all of these changes tomorrow.

gn guyz

Wait, i thought Bambu was still undecided

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Wait, i thought Bambu was still undecided

no I'm decided. I think Tempest is agreeing with my perspective, which makes this enough to pass. Low-tiers stay At least 9-B+, high tiers become At least High 8-C, possibly 7-C.

 

[Arceus0x]

Welp, it is now confirmed - Mr. Incredible solos Tighten.

 

[MaskedDragon908]

going over this, I do agree with your perspective over the counter one.

With that in mind, do you have any suggestions for what the tiering would ultimately look like?

Sorry for the late reply.
Masked is awake now.
It appears that the thread has been concluded, but Masked will answer anyway.

I don't think I'd agree to even a possibly for the low tiers. We have, then, a single acceptable Tier 7 feat (this being the earthquake one) that would scale to particularly powerful Supers. From what I can tell, both Hypershock and Gamma Jack are considered much stronger than the low-tiers. I'd be more in favor of just keeping them at "At least 9-B+" and leaving the high tiers at "At least High 8-C, possibly 7-C", I think.

This is similar to how Masked views the situation. "At least High 8-C, possibly 7-C" is the compromise they were originally shooting for, as the superiority to Hypershock is acknowledged, albeit never truly demonstrated.
Masked also agrees with "At least 9-B+" for the low tiers.

He makes the same sound when he falls over. I don't think these grunts are particularly relevant for scaling. the only time I get the impression she's actually winning (as opposed to him just not hurting her) is when she's strangling him, and that's moreso LS than AP. also is this an edited video with healthbars, for what purpose

This was the other point that Masked was going to bring up.
Masked was going to suggest that the thread creator settle for "Class 5, higher, up to at most Class M with Elasticity", as although Mr. Incredible doesn't want to harm her, he is somewhat resisting.
That is somewhat beyond the scope of this thread, however. Perhaps another time.

For application, would this be sufficient?
Omnidroid: "At least High 8-C, possibly 7-C (15.08 Kilotons), higher, up to at least 8-B+, possibly 7-C (30.556 Kilotons) with piercing damage"
Masked isn't sure how the durability should be displayed, as the joints of the v.10 are never tested in the movie.
Edit: Perhaps just "8-B+, possibly 7-C, higher for its main body/hull"?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Sorry for the late reply.
Masked is awake now.
It appears that the thread has been concluded, but Masked will answer anyway.

This is similar to how Masked views the situation. "At least High 8-C, possibly 7-C" is the compromise they were originally shooting for, as the superiority to Hypershock is acknowledged, albeit never truly demonstrated.
Masked also agrees with "At least 9-B+" for the low tiers.

This was the other point that Masked was going to bring up.
Masked was going to suggest that the thread creator settle for "Class 5, higher, up to at most Class M with Elasticity", as although Mr. Incredible doesn't want to harm her, he is somewhat resisting.
That is somewhat beyond the scope of this thread, however. Perhaps another time.

For application, would this be sufficient?
Omnidroid: "At least High 8-C, possibly 7-C (15.08 Kilotons), higher, up to at least 8-B+, possibly 7-C (30.556 Kilotons) with piercing damage"
Masked isn't sure how the durability should be displayed, as the joints of the v.10 are never tested in the movie.
Edit: Perhaps just "8-B+, possibly 7-C, higher for its main body/hull"?

Where is the 8-B+ coming from?

Edit: I'm stupid, nevermind. This seems fine for Omnidroid. The piercing damage is a bit unwieldy, I guess it would look like "At least High 8-C, possibly 7-C, at least 8-B+, possibly 7-C via piercing damage", which really sucks.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

doesn't the 8-B+ value come from the same feat IDK recalc?

Sorry for the late reply.
Masked is awake now.
It appears that the thread has been concluded, but Masked will answer anyway.

This is similar to how Masked views the situation. "At least High 8-C, possibly 7-C" is the compromise they were originally shooting for, as the superiority to Hypershock is acknowledged, albeit never truly demonstrated.
Masked also agrees with "At least 9-B+" for the low tiers.

This was the other point that Masked was going to bring up.
Masked was going to suggest that the thread creator settle for "Class 5, higher, up to at most Class M with Elasticity", as although Mr. Incredible doesn't want to harm her, he is somewhat resisting.
That is somewhat beyond the scope of this thread, however. Perhaps another time.

For application, would this be sufficient?
Omnidroid: "At least High 8-C, possibly 7-C (15.08 Kilotons), higher, up to at least 8-B+, possibly 7-C (30.556 Kilotons) with piercing damage"
Masked isn't sure how the durability should be displayed, as the joints of the v.10 are never tested in the movie.
Edit: Perhaps just "8-B+, possibly 7-C, higher for its main body/hull"?

 

[MaskedDragon908]

doesn't the 8-B+ value come from the same feat IDK recalc?

Yes. However, Mr. Bambu has accepted the 7-C end as a "possibly" and the other end will remain on the page.
Edit: It occurs to Masked that you might have been answering Mr. Bambu's question. If that is the case, then sorry about the ping.

I am going to extend a sign-off on using the calc's value, only as a "possibly" rating.

It has been 26 days since the creation of the thread, so Masked will begin applying the changes, unless there are further contentions.
Dalesean027 wanted to be informed once the calculation was evaluated, so he might have something to say.

Thank you to everyone who helped out here.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Wait, is there a reason we're using the 9-B+ value for human-shaped hole instead of just 9-B?

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Yes. However, Mr. Bambu has accepted the 7-C end as a "possibly" and the other end will remain on the page.
Edit: It occurs to Masked that you might have been answering Mr. Bambu's question. If that is the case, then sorry about the ping.

It has been 26 days since the creation of the thread, so Masked will begin applying the changes, unless there are further contentions.
Dalesean027 wanted to be informed once the calculation was evaluated, so he might have something to say.

Thank you to everyone who helped out here.

i'm kinda against i cuz those 2 are the same feats, so i suggest to do something less confusing for ppl outside of the wiki and do "At least Large Building level+ possibly Town level"

considering i do not wanna contribute to the vsbw reputation of being inconsistent and biased at times

 

[MaskedDragon908]

i'm kinda against i cuz those 2 are the same feats, so i suggest to do something less confusing for ppl outside of the wiki and do "At least Large Building level+ possibly Town level"

considering i do not wanna contribute to the vsbw reputation of being inconsistent and biased at times

Okay, so
Masked isn;t supposed to be awake nright now
So sorry if theyre somewhat incoherent

They don't really understand what you're suggesting.
Mr. Bambu accepted a possibly, so Masked is just appending it to the existing scaling.
Masked isn't done adding references to the Omnidroid's page, but they have done their best to explain the tiering.
They've added values and attempted to explain where each value comes from.

By teh way , theyre not the same feat.
The 8-B+ is a conservative end using the actual destruction we see, i.e. the rcrater that it leaves when leanding, after it's burned off the kinetic energy from its flight throug h teh atmosphere.
The 7-C is an attempt to estimate its terminal velocity and the energy it would have had at the first point of impact iwth the ground, which is why it's only a possibly.
Does that help?

 

[LandonTheGuy]

Okay, so
Masked isn;t supposed to be awake nright now
So sorry if theyre somewhat incoherent

They don't really understand what you're suggesting.
Mr. Bambu accepted a possibly, so Masked is just appending it to the existing scaling.
Masked isn't done adding references to the Omnidroid's page, but they have done their best to explain the tiering.
They've added values and attempted to explain where each value comes from.

By teh way , theyre not the same feat.
The 8-B+ is a conservative end using the actual destruction we see, i.e. the rcrater that it leaves when leanding, after it's burned off the kinetic energy from its flight throug h teh atmosphere.
The 7-C is an attempt to estimate its terminal velocity and the energy it would have had at the first point of impact iwth the ground, which is why it's only a possibly.
Does that help?

You know what? Good to me.

If someone will have problems they can make a crt about this regardless

 

[LandonTheGuy]

i suppose we can start adding the modifications or we wait a lil bit if ppl want to add something?

 

[LandonTheGuy]

i suppose we can start adding the modifications or we wait a lil bit if ppl want to add something?

alright i'm starting to add this stuff

 

[LandonTheGuy]

question, how do y'all wanna treat the normal ass human who can still keep up with elastigirl?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Evelyn_Deavor

personally, just make her 9-B

 

[Rex_Eckles]

question, how do y'all wanna treat the normal ass human who can still keep up with elastigirl?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Evelyn_Deavor

personally, just make her 9-B

We already treat her as really strong, so eh?

 

[LandonTheGuy]

We already treat her as really strong, so eh?

i mean, now there's the problem that we should make her at most town level, and i wouldn't treat her as nuke level strong considering it's not even implied that she's superhuman by any means

 

[Rex_Eckles]

i mean, now there's the problem that we should make her at most town level, and i wouldn't treat her as nuke level strong considering it's not even implied that she's superhuman by any means

It's already weird, since she apparently is physically comparable to Elastigirl. Anyways, the low tiers are only getting "at least 9-B+"

 

[LandonTheGuy]

It's already weird, since she apparently is physically comparable to Elastigirl. Anyways, the low tiers are only getting "at least 9-B+"

let's just do that then

 

[LandonTheGuy]

so... who do i got to ask to unlock blocked pages?

 

[IDK3465]

so... who do i got to ask to unlock blocked pages?

post here:

All-purpose request thread (New forum)

Use this thread for important staff requests that are not covered by more specialised topics or forums. All staff members should preferably subscribe to it.

vsbattles.com

 

[Rex_Eckles]

so... who do i got to ask to unlock blocked pages?

Content moderators.

 

[LandonTheGuy]

post here:

All-purpose request thread (New forum)

Use this thread for important staff requests that are not covered by more specialised topics or forums. All staff members should preferably subscribe to it.

vsbattles.com

Content moderators.

thank you

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Wait, is there a reason we're using the 9-B+ value for human-shaped hole instead of just 9-B?

 

[LandonTheGuy]

now that you made me notice, it's best using the baseline value

 

[LandonTheGuy]

ok i applied the lower end

 

[LandonTheGuy]

i was checking the profile of Violet, i'm pretty sure her shields should upscale Hypershock as she can withstand hits from the omnidroid

 

[IDK3465]

i was checking the profile of Violet, i'm pretty sure her shields should upscale Hypershock as she can withstand hits from the omnidroid

Weird, I thought her force fields already scaled to Bob
Oh well, we can save that for a future CRT ig