[ACCEPTED] Lookism: Mid Tier+ LS Upgrades + God Tier LS Downgrades

[Pyro9278]

I'm not very familiar with LS scaling. Can someone explain how LS scales based on combat?

LS involves lifting force, torque force, gripping force, and generally force over energy.

 

[Aksh_sky]

Aurora is dealing with Sophia's body weight, not with any strength or counterforce. The same is true when any Aikido practitioner applies a ragdoll to another person. They are simply dealing with body weight.

Fair enough.

The issue here is being consistent with the scaling and not starting to scale just anyone based on biases instead of performance or legitimate claims.

As long as you can objectively prove chaiscaling, it doens't matter.

Also, in defense of CatLover313, the thread says "LOOKISM," not "PTJVERSE."

The 'Lookism' tag also includes ptj verse tho. But regardless, as long as they all share the same verse, then it's fine bringing other manhwas up for scaling .

 

[CatLover313]

I'm not very familiar with LS scaling. Can someone explain how LS scales based on combat?

At least some form of contest in strength. Character A directly overwhelms Character B in stuff like arm wrestling, grappling, crushing them, tearing their limb, choking them, etc. Statements also work (i.e. character A is directly stated to be stronger than character B). Just punching them away or kicking them away is not usually enough to count as LS scaling. Flipping isn't usually enough either as your just throwing their body weight rather than overcoming their LS (though if you can somehow prove the character is actively resisting the throw by like, say, they have an aura that keeps them in place but still gets flipped).

Sophia and Doom's scaling doesn't seem questionable to me. In fact, Doom has its own Class M feat (to be passed) which was going to scale the verse (if only people would read the general discussion thread...). The issue here is being consistent with the scaling and not starting to scale just anyone based on biases instead of performance or legitimate claims.

I'd still argue with Doom not scaling to Sophia (heck, even the other way around) FOR LS. As soon as Sophia got serious, neither of them really had a battle of strength. Even then, you're right, that has nothing to do with this thread.

 

[Powerscalingcat]

This is genuinely so bad.

Most people here should scale above Igor's class M feat because Sophia was multiple times stated to be 'The strongest of Russia' and 'The pinnacle of Russia' and was even consistently implied and shown to be the strongest in Dead Mansion aswell. Meanwhile Igor literally came there for 0.1hp Slendy.

Infact for consistency, Sophia even talks like she's authoritatively above Igor and one of the reason behind it is because she's stronger than Igor as she's the pinnacle of Russia.

Now Doom should obviously scale to Sophia's LS as it was pretty obvious in their fight and anyone who scales to Doom would also scale to that feat. This would obviously include Tom, who scales above MK and so on with most Lookism high tiers.

Edit: After watching Sophia and Aurora's fight, i thing he'll also scale to that feat since he wasn't able to tank grab attacks from her and even was able to flip Sophia. Thus he'll scale to thaf LS even though Sophia wasn't FP at that time because it doens't really matter since the class M feat was also done by casual Igor.

I'll likely make a crt about ts.

I agree with Sophia scaling but I disagree with the MK chain scaling because Sophia is a graduate of the 'holds back man' academy, I wouldn't be surpised if her holding back also means her grip strenght is lower, also flipping someone doesn't mean you have higher LS as them as your LS doesn't affect your weight or your abbility to get flipped (I think)

 

[Aksh_sky]

I agree with Sophia scaling but I disagree with the MK chain scaling because Sophia is a graduate of the 'holds back man' academy, I wouldn't be surpised if her holding back also means her grip strenght is lower, also flipping someone doesn't mean you have higher LS as them as your LS doesn't affect your weight or your abbility to get flipped (I think)

Even if she holds back, that won't matter since she's stronger than Igor and that class M feat was done by a casual and obviously nowhere close to FP Igor, so holding back Sophia should scale to it.

And yeah flipping someone in some cases can mean LS, if the charecter who is being flipped is resisting the flip by holding the other charecter prior flipping or by resisting it and channeling their strength on the ground or via some aura.

A good example of this would be when Daniel flipped Choyun.

 

[CatLover313]

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[Pyro9278]

And yeah flipping someone in some cases can mean LS, if the charecter who is being flipped is resisting the flip by holding the other charecter prior flipping or by resisting it and channeling their strength on the ground or via some aura.

A good example of this would be when Daniel flipped Choyun.

It requires proof that they were doing it, but usually characters who suffer from ragdoll are always taken by surprise or simply do not demonstrate exerting force.

 

[Pyro9278]

I agree with Sophia scaling but I disagree with the MK chain scaling because Sophia is a graduate of the 'holds back man' academy, I wouldn't be surpised if her holding back also means her grip strenght is lower, also flipping someone doesn't mean you have higher LS as them as your LS doesn't affect your weight or your abbility to get flipped (I think)

Anyway, I'd prefer to leave Igor's feat and Sophia's chain scaling for a separate CRT; while this one is open, another cannot be opened, and the thread shouldn't be saturated with another topic.

 

[CatLover313]

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[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I don't know this verse, and I tend to avoid scaling, but I suppose this looks fine. My only notable issue is here;

• Yujae Seon: At least Class 50 (Could hold Jaegyeon’s kick for a bit)
• Gongseob: At least Class 50 (Zack called Hashik Song strong and Gongseob could take his hit without budging)

You can't scale LS off of Strikes/Attacks.

 

[CatLover313]

I don't know this verse, and I tend to avoid scaling, but I suppose this looks fine. My only notable issue is here;

• Yujae Seon: At least Class 50 (Could hold Jaegyeon’s kick for a bit)
• Gongseob: At least Class 50 (Zack called Hashik Song strong and Gongseob could take his hit without budging)

You can't scale LS off of Strikes/Attacks.

Yeah, felt like those were a bit of a stretch anyway. Removed those two (+ Taesoo, who was connected to Gongseob) because they otherwise didn't have any LS scaling feats to the feat, and I couldn't think of any other reasoning, as the verse doesn't have a scaling chain yet either.

Put you as agree for the rest, though, ty

 

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[Elizhaa]

The update proposals look fine, from the evidence.

 

[CatLover313]

The update proposals look fine, from the evidence.

Thank you! I’ll start applying

 

[CatLover313]

Everything's been applied, this thread can be closed now