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Superman's Plot Manipulation Revision & NPI BDE1 DC Comic

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Passive Limited Plot Manipulation, Resistance to Plot Manipulation, Accelerated Development(Battle; Physical Statistics, Intelligence & Abilities), Reactive Evolution & Immortality (Types 4 and 8; Story of Superman is an inevitable narrative created to be indestructible at the heart of the DC Multiverse causing the narrative to bend toward Superman’s victory despite the previous narrative dictating that evil was supposed to win in the end. This narrative grants Superman extreme power ups to oppose and defeat threats normally entirely beyond his league of power such as when he faced the World Forger in the Sixth Dimension and makes him unable to be destroyed as stated by Superboy Prime)

Seems okay. Change "unable to be destroyed" to something along the lines of the narrative will eventually bring him back somehow.
 
Passive Limited Plot Manipulation, Resistance to Plot Manipulation, Accelerated Development(Battle; Physical Statistics, Intelligence & Abilities), Reactive Evolution & Immortality (Types 4 and 8; Story of Superman is an inevitable narrative created to be indestructible at the heart of the DC Multiverse causing the narrative to bend toward Superman’s victory despite the previous narrative dictating that evil was supposed to win in the end. This Story of Superman also grants Superman extreme power ups to oppose and defeat threats normally entirely beyond his league of power such as when he faced the World Forger in the Sixth Dimension and causes the narrative to eventually bring him back somehow)

I think this looks good
 
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Passive Limited Plot Manipulation, Resistance to Plot Manipulation, Accelerated Development(Battle; Physical Statistics, Intelligence & Abilities), Reactive Evolution & Immortality (Types 4 and 8; Story of Superman is an inevitable narrative created to be indestructible at the heart of the DC Multiverse causing the narrative to bend toward Superman’s victory despite the previous narrative dictating that evil was supposed to win in the end. This narrative grants Superman extreme power ups to oppose and defeat threats normally entirely beyond his league of power such as when he faced the World Forger in the Sixth Dimension and makes him unable to be destroyed as stated by Superboy Prime)

Seems okay. Change "unable to be destroyed" to something along the lines of the narrative will eventually bring him back somehow.
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Thanks for the input
 
Do we know that the narratives of Superman and Cosmic Armor Superman function the same? If they do not we should have separate justifications for each.
 
Firestorm808 said:
Passive Limited Plot Manipulation, Resistance to Plot Manipulation, Accelerated Development(Battle; Physical Statistics, Intelligence & Abilities), Reactive Evolution & Immortality (Types 4 and 8; Story of Superman is an inevitable narrative created to be indestructible at the heart of the DC Multiverse causing the narrative to bend toward Superman’s victory despite the previous narrative dictating that evil was supposed to win in the end. This narrative grants Superman extreme power ups to oppose and defeat threats normally entirely beyond his league of power such as when he faced the World Forger in the Sixth Dimension and makes him unable to be destroyed as stated by Superboy Prime)

Seems okay. Change "unable to be destroyed" to something along the lines of the narrative will eventually bring him back somehow.
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That seems fine to me as well. 🙏
 
Cas is story of the multiverse formed in Superman's shape with story of Superman inside it that protect the multiverse

Cas activated by superman as representation of super Hero & Ultraman as the representation of crime, the root story of DC itself. Superhero & crime it formed in Superman's shape. And in final crisis that story want to be destroy by mandrakk greater evil. But because superhero winning the story is embedded in human mind over the years even this idea persist for so long that's why Morrison saw that idea is outlast their creators who have written him.
AyOgUyS said:
Do we know that the narratives of Superman and Cosmic Armor Superman function the same? If they do not we should have separate justifications for each.
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I get that but it seems more like a moment of Accelerated Development rather than a clear indication that the narrative itself is amping him to that level.
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Hmm, what is the difference.
It happen because the story of Superman is created to be unstoppable
 
AyOgUyS said:
I mean for CAS Plot Manipulation seems fine but I'm really not sure if these scans about the Thought Robot can be applied to regular Supes.
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CAS is not the story of Superman. Cas is story of DC, formed in Superman's shape, the root of the DC's story itself is Hero & Crime, cas activated by superman as representation of Hero and Ultraman representing crime. Deep within that story (heart of that story) there is story of Superman, an unstoppable story with the idea of unstoppable story comes from Morrison's mind that character Superman saves the day is a self perpetuating idea that outlast its creator, Superman was made long ago, many writer have written him passed, even the creator of superman itself, but Superman persist, because character superman as a Hero is embedded in human(reader/writer).
 
Frankky123 said:
CAS is not the story of Superman. Cas is story of DC, formed in Superman's shape, the root of the DC's story itself is Hero & Crime, cas activated by superman as representation of Hero and Ultraman representing crime. Deep within that story (heart of that story) there is story of Superman, an unstoppable story with the idea of unstoppable story comes from Morrison's mind that character Superman saves the day is a self perpetuating idea that outlast its creator, Superman was made long ago, many writer have written him passed even the creator of superman itself but Superman persist, because character superman as a Hero is embedded in human(reader/writst
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Character Superman is an anchor of DC Story
 
Frankky123 said:
Deep within that story (heart of that story) there is story of Superman, an unstoppable story with the idea of unstoppable story comes from Morrison's mind that character Superman saves the day is a self perpetuating idea that outlast its creator, Superman was made long ago, many writer have written him passed, even the creator of superman itself, but Superman persist, because character superman as a Hero is embedded in human(reader/writer).
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I don't think Morrison was speaking from a canonical sense. His statement is technically true but he was moreso referring to how Superman will always be written a certain way, not neccesarily that Superman has any canonical Plot Manipulation.
 
AyOgUyS said:
I don't think Morrison was speaking from a canonical sense. His statement is technically true but he was moreso referring to how Superman will always be written a certain way, not neccesarily that Superman has any canonical Plot Manipulation.
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Yes. We need explicit in-story evidence for this. 🙏
 
Frankky123 said:
I don't understand, final crisis Superman beyond end with cas winning???
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Yes but why would that apply to mainline Superman who is a different character? Your proposal makes it seem as if mainline Superman and CAS have the same Plot Manipulation, but your scans do not actually support that.
 
Why cas have plot manipulation? It comes from the idea of superman
AyOgUyS said:
Yes but why would that apply to mainline Superman who is a different character? Your proposal makes it seem as if mainline Superman and CAS have the same Plot Manipulation, but your scans do not actually support that.
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Antvasima said:
That seems fine to me as well. 🙏
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Im done editing Cas & Mandrakk profile, i want to put hecky's proposal but now the profile is locked already

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The Thought Robot

The Thought Robot is a remnant of Science Monitor Dax Novu, the extension of Monitor-Mind the Overvoid that examined the Multiverse and split in two. It was left floating next to creation in the Void, until the Monitor Sphere formed around it and it became incorporated into the story of the...
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Mandrakk the Dark Monitor

Mandrakk is the corrupted version of half of the original extension of Monitor-Mind the Overvoid that examined the Multiverse before splitting and leaving behind the Thought Robot. Mandrakk locked himself away in the Pit to await the Final Crisis of the Monitors, when he would rise from the...
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Frankky123 said:
That's how i made this CRT
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Frankky123 said:

In the narrative, The Evil supposed to triumph(Final Crisis : Superman Beyond #1) and destroy everything to the void. And superman is aware of him being a fictional character(Final Crisis : Superman Beyond #2) also aware he's inside the story of the previous narrative(Final Crisis : Superman Beyond #2).
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Frankky123 said:
the Story of Superman itself functions as an inevitable narrative created to be indestructible(Final Crisis : Superman Beyond #2) at the heart of the DC Multiverse(Inside The Mind of Morrison), causing the narrative to bend toward Superman’s victory(Final Crisis : Superman Beyond #2), which makes him got extreme power up if he need it to oppose threat(Final Crisis : Superman Beyond #2)
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I do not see how this is supposed to apply to mainline Superman rather than just CAS
 
Is this done? I'm going to ask for this thread to be closed, because I've been bumping a lot in the all purpose thread.
 
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