Destiny General Discussion Thread

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Just trying to save the verse with fanfics

Also question, if someone throw a moon to the Earth previous the Red War/after the Black Heart first destruction, could the Traveler wake up and stop it?

 

[WHYNAUT]

Just trying to save the verse with fanfics

Also question, if someone throw a moon to the Earth previous the Red War/after the Black Heart first destruction, could the Traveler wake up and stop it?

Do not go gentle into that good night.

Hm, not sure. Based on lore it's possible that the Traveler's awakening was because of the Cabal caging it and draining its Light. If it woke up, it could definitely stop a moon though.

 

[sukuna171]

Anyway, now that there's slightly more activity here, I might as well make use of it. I'm currently working on a Paracausality Explanation Page, not a verse-specific power page, and I'd appreciate some feedback. It's still a WIP, but even so, if I've made any mistakes or I seem to have missed something, please let me know.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:WHYNAUT/Paracausality

https://vsbattles.com/members/whynaut.605/

 

[WHYNAUT]

https://vsbattles.com/members/whynaut.605/

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[sukuna171]

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How did that happen? I typed "10/10, good job" and that appeared.

 

[WHYNAUT]

Lol. Thanks.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Do not go gentle into that good night.

Hm, not sure. Based on lore it's possible that the Traveler's awakening was because of the Cabal caging it and draining its Light. If it woke up, it could definitely stop a moon though.

Okey

Also thoughts about people confusing Paracausality (Parallel to Causality) and Acuasality (no connect to any System of causal) with simple resistence to time alteration, like get your past altered?

Becuase i present people proof that Time Lords could be considere (from the perspective from Destiny characters such as The WItness or the Vanguard) as an unknown Paracausal factions as they work with their system of causality/outside fo Main causality aka Meta-Time, yet people say that they not are paracuasal but acausal.. which make 0 sense considering Destiny tell that Acuasality is more like Causa Sui

 

[WHYNAUT]

Okey

Also thoughts about people confusing Paracausality (Parallel to Causality) and Acuasality (no connect to any System of causal) with simple resistence to time alteration, like get your past altered?

Becuase i present people proof that Time Lords could be considere (from the perspective from Destiny characters such as The WItness or the Vanguard) as an unknown Paracausal factions as they work with their system of causality/outside fo Main causality aka Meta-Time, yet people say that they not are paracuasal but acausal.. which make 0 sense considering Destiny tell that Acuasality is more like Causa Sui

They probably haven't paid attention to the lore surrounding paracausality then, because I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion otherwise. I don't know much about Doctor Who however.

As for Causa Sui, I think it's more accurate to say that it falls under acausality in Destiny. It's a good example of something not adhering to any system of cause and effect, but it doesn't encompass the entire category.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

They probably haven't paid attention to the lore surrounding paracausality then, because I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion otherwise.

yeah, i thought so, it was on Space battle, which is a weird place, people claim things like Chraka can be equalized to Cursed energy but soon as i point on from the perspective of Destiny Factions, the TLs are unknown Paracuasal faction, people go against this idea

I don't know much about Doctor Who however.

Basically Great houses/Time Lords built causality/history aka the Web of time, but themselves on a ontological level are above/outside of Causality, in their own system called Meta-time to the point they physics are extensions of them, so a Time Lord is like Gravity or geometry (and can ignore physics if wish) and are Time Sensitive/witchblood, so cuasuality lenses and break down around them and they can walk outside of the normal chain of events making predictive machines to predict them as they fails to adhere to the laws of time and space thus they have "freewill" and as time Sensivity they have a different relation with Space-time
(Just a few example. there a lot more)

As for Causa Sui, I think it's more accurate to say that it falls under acausality in Destiny. It's a good example of something not adhering to any system of cause and effect, but it doesn't encompass the entire category.

Yeah, i thought causa sui becuase this part in your sandbox

As far as I can tell this thing made itself. Spontaneous acausal generation. My best guess is that there's so much will hanging around that it crystallized. Pure I-am-and-I-gotta. Embodied stubbornness.

 

[WHYNAUT]

yeah, i thought so, it was on Space battle, which is a weird place, people claim things like Chraka can be equalized to Cursed energy but soon as i point on from the perspective of Destiny Factions, the TLs are unknown Paracuasal faction, people go against this idea

Basically Great houses/Time Lords built causality/history aka the Web of time, but themselves on a ontological level are above/outside of Causality, in their own system called Meta-time to the point they physics are extensions of them, so a Time Lord is like Gravity or geometry (and can ignore physics if wish) and are Time Sensitive/witchblood, so cuasuality lenses and break down around them and they can walk outside of the normal chain of events making predictive machines to predict them as they fails to adhere to the laws of time and space thus they have "freewill" and as time Sensivity they have a different relation with Space-time
(Just a few example. there a lot more)

Yeah, i thought causa sui becuase this part in your sandbox

Yeah depending on how liberal you want to be with equalization, Time Lords could be classified as paracausal then.

As it says, 'acausal generation', the generation of something as an acausal event. We know that Taking also functions at the acausal level for example, or that the Black Fleet is classified as acausal.

 

[sukuna171]

Yeah depending on how liberal you want to be with equalization, Time Lords could be classified as paracausal then.

As it says, 'acausal generation', the generation of something an acausal event. We know that Taking also functions at the acausal level for example, or that the Black Fleet is classified as acausal.

Speaking of Acausality Type 4, what resistances does Paracausality offer? Naturally, it stands against causality, fate, and law.

 

[WHYNAUT]

Speaking of Acausality Type 4, what resistances does Paracausality offer? Naturally, it stands against causality, fate, and law.

Causality, Fate, Precognition and Physics. Law is arguable actually, it's more like they have Law Manipulation that can counter laws. The result is basically the same though.