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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

My most wanted btw
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Eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
 
I don't get the appeal of this MU.
Basically, Red and blue alien heroes that ended up on Earth after the loss of their world and act as righteous protectors of it from the forces of evil alongside the team that they lead, seeing the best in everyone and fighting for a tomorrow that is made up of peace, freedom and happiness

There are other connections for This matchup which is better, and it's My preferred alternative for Superman and Optimus.
 
If we're going to use absolute composites at their highest forms whatever, I'd personally consider it as:

1. Superboy Prime
2. Superman/Thor
3. Hulk
4. Galactus
5. Darkseid

I'd argue Spectre Hal could be a top 5 of this list ngl but I'm not too knowledgeable on Spectre so that's why I'm excluding him.
Yeah, honestly, looking at it Superboy prime is probably our strongest DB character atm.
 
No, they explicitly said infinity HIGHER dimensions when speaking about Godzilla's multiverse
Tbh dont think so? None of Godzilla's section explicitly mention 'higher dimensions' specifically. They do compare and say Goji Multiverse is as vast outside of transcending layers, but at same time its vague enough that it doesnt actually mean higher dimensional universe. Hell, Ultima itself being higher dimensional entity could be outside of multiverse, so that one doesnt arguably count.

My Little Pony also got higher dimensional reasoning in Death Battle via dream realms

Death Battle had Coyote scale to the animator's world too, which should be a quantitative R>F
They were vague on this one too. They again didnt buy them fully higher args, but I suppose those could count as some arguments. But if CellMetal blackbox had them as speed equal but actual speed was given to Cell, Discord's args might not count, just like AshYugi highends args dont. Some blackboxes are hypotheticals. They didnt give Limbo true stats, an inbetween thing is not technically a true bulkspace, based on their wording.

Also guys stop wanting to kill Optimus.
 
Tbh dont think so? None of Godzilla's section explicitly mention 'higher dimensions' specifically. They do compare and say Goji Multiverse is as vast outside of transcending layers, but at same time its vague enough that it doesnt actually mean higher dimensional universe. Hell, Ultima itself being higher dimensional entity could be outside of multiverse, so that one doesnt arguably count..
It wasn't vague at all, they literally said that Marvel have infinite HIGHER dimensions and then talk about the transcending (Outerversal) layers above those infinite HIGHER dimensions, and then they compare the Godzilla's cosmology saying that it's as infinite but lack the transcending (Outerversal) layers, it wasn't really vague, you're just refusing to acknowledged it for some reason
 
If we're going to use absolute composites at their highest forms whatever, I'd personally consider it as:

1. Superboy Prime
2. Superman/Thor
3. Hulk
4. Galactus
5. Darkseid

I'd argue Spectre Hal could be a top 5 of this list ngl but I'm not too knowledgeable on Spectre so that's why I'm excluding him.
If by "absolute composite" we mean every version of them regardless of context then Hal would be above everyone because of that time he merged with the Presence.
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I like this guys reviews.

But he said he is a Dragon Ball hater, and he was slandering Trunks, so his my natural enemy.
Many of his reviews arent so good, especially when he tried to say you should judge by death battle logic and words, not by knowledge outside of what they say

Also he tried to defend the sun disk having calcs above death battle ones after the show animated till there thus its subjective to say one is wrong, on top of not even talking about how one of their researchers was toxic in return to people with threats like king piccolo being a city buster or that peeps were salty, granted its not like people werent toxic, but he had no business to get this attitude given nowadays his stuff look even worse in retrospect
 
Many of his reviews arent so good, especially when he tried to say you should judge by death battle logic and words, not by knowledge outside of what they say
That's dumb as hell.

But true, some of his reviews is kinda bad. I think his Cole vs Alex Review kinda misses the point on why people deslike the analysis.
 
Also he says he got himself educated on the franchises that Death Battle featured so far in the independent era and not doing the previously "judge by their logic, not outside it" mindset

Yet still tried defending Omniman vs Bardock and taking issue with their compositing of latter, as if they didnt count non canon stuff or even what if stuff in the episodes from previous seasons too, also saying people care only for accuracy

Even if you animate a fight on a quality like Ufotable, Mappa and many other studios, if you have things like a very obvious fight giving the win to the one whom wont realistically do so, while nerfing the obvious winner, it is more then fair to judge that too and its not a matter on opinion here, some stuff are just very obvious and that aint room for debatability
 

He loves to stretch it out, so just cuz of grunts being pretty much similar in ammount on both ends, Kratos getting up slowly from getting put down in craters and using Spartan Rage 4 times in animation is now suggesting Kratos didnt no sold it for the most part...they had battle dmg models on Kratos which as far as games go, dont feel as fast and would have helped better with this, thats why the storyboard was better at showing it by comparison, he nitpicks and also assumes people will watch like him every detail separately

As for calling people on Kratos doing what Asura did to his own first boss in his own game against him as people being soft on whats being disrespectful, like really...imagine if more characters replicated their opponents moments from their series against them, Metal doing Tien move on Cell while not being his, its still disrespectful, especially if you take in consideration the abridged version, hence Cell says "dont you dare"

How is it pulling the same card or more accurately "give them a taste of their own medicine" or even "so thats how it feels like" on the opponent coming up with it to begin with not a form of that...

And he clearly doesnt even brings up the dialogue in the storyboard as to why characterization was bad, by showing footage of his gameplay as if thats proof

How tf you make such a long video dedicated on a single fight to not even disprove most of the stuff in question and act like you cooked at that, he clearly has a perspective unlike any others on death battle episodes and most of time it defending stuff you can only defend so far, also so far from 40 minutes he isnt even acknowledging this fight was given more runtime then average episodes in animation and yet still couldnt fix most of the issues people had with it
 
Coal

It’s still bad and you’re not gonna convince me otherwise
Idk why folks so desperate to defend an objectively bad episode?

Like what ya trying to kiss ass or something,Need rent paid or what
The episode ass and has nothing going for it to ignore it's massive flaws
He loves to stretch it out, so just cuz of grunts being pretty much similar in ammount on both ends, Kratos getting up slowly from getting put down in craters and using Spartan Rage 4 times in animation is now suggesting Kratos didnt no sold it for the most part...they had battle dmg models on Kratos which as far as games go, dont feel as fast and would have helped better with this, thats why the storyboard was better at showing it by comparison, he nitpicks and also assumes people will watch like him every detail separately

As for calling people on Kratos doing what Asura did to his own first boss in his own game against him as people being soft on whats being disrespectful, like really...imagine if more characters replicated their opponents moments from their series against them, Metal doing Tien move on Cell while not being his, its still disrespectful, especially if you take in consideration the abridged version, hence Cell says "dont you dare"

How is it pulling the same card or more accurately "give them a taste of their own medicine" or even "so thats how it feels like" on the opponent coming up with it to begin with not a form of that...

And he clearly doesnt even brings up the dialogue in the storyboard as to why characterization was bad, by showing footage of his gameplay as if thats proof

How tf you make such a long video dedicated on a single fight to not even disprove most of the stuff in question and act like you cooked at that, he clearly has a perspective unlike any others on death battle episodes and most of time it defending stuff you can only defend so far, also so far from 40 minutes he isnt even acknowledging this fight was given more runtime then average episodes in animation and yet still couldnt fix most of the issues people had with it
It's happens when you smell your own asshole and not think very far in how bad ya defense and arguments for it be like
 
I would give him credit regarding the ending in storyboard not being as good in animation looking at it again, but storyboard did it far better overall, idk why he acts like the animation had more good points and acting like he is forced to give storyboard points, especially for stuff he openly says arent things he would have missed from it whem DA didnt do them
 
😭 Greg is pretty forgetable as well but his arc was one of the most goated arcs in the show ngl
Honestly his arc was the peak moment in ultimate alien and it followed with Kevin sacrificing his sanity and humanity to stop him, leading to a repeat on the past from classic series, which was also the best moments in ultimate alien
 
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