Blue String CRT: Major Scaling Revision

[Black_Cat49]

Hello everyone, and I hope you're all having a great day.
Now, let's get started with the thread.

The Blue String Universe is a long-running and expansive universe, especially when compared to many other manhwa franchises (I'll refrain from naming them, haha).

However, I have noticed that the universe has become relatively unpopular in recent years. As a result, many of its profiles, scaling pages, and supporting information have been left outdated and have not received meaningful updates for quite some time. That is why I created this thread—to bring the scaling of these characters up to date and make it as accurate as possible based on the current state of the series. Hopefully, this will also make the profiles more useful for the website, particularly for applications such as versus matches between characters.

The scaling revisions have already been compiled in the following blog, which you can review and evaluate:

Blue String : Scaling Explanation

Regardless of whether the results turn out well or not, I hope they will receive the upgrades they deserve and become much better than they are now.

Agree: Gamin_Yoon23, Arthur_Nando444, Pxnd_013 (Agree with everything except the Hypersonic+ speed scaling.)

Disagree:

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

I gave this a brief read and this seems to be fine to me. These ratings do seem reasonable unless there are errors in the calculations but I don’t think that seems to be the case here. The ratings we currently follow are extremely outdated so this was very much needed, great work.

 

[Pxnd_013]

I've only read a few Blue String series, so I won't comment too much. However, what I'd like to know is: why can the characters you mentioned be scaled to Juyoung's Hypersonic+ feat?

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

I've only read a few Blue String series, so I won't comment too much. However, what I'd like to know is: why can the characters you mentioned be scaled to Juyoung's Hypersonic+ feat?

I did have an issue with that first but then I did remember that technically they’re all apart of blue string verse and Gamin is considered one of the epitomes in the verse alongside Yeongha Jeon if I’m not wrong. I think this is how it works by default unless there are any contradictions with canonicity but if worst comes to worst I believe there is another hypersonic calc that Gamin and co can scale to if you and many have issues with what’s proposed

 

[Pxnd_013]

I did have an issue with that first but then I did remember that technically they’re all apart of blue string verse and Gamin is considered one of the epitomes in the verse alongside Yeongha Jeon if I’m not wrong. I think this is how it works by default unless there are any contradictions with canonicity but if worst comes to worst I believe there is another hypersonic calc that Gamin and co can scale to if you and many have issues with what’s proposed

Being more outstanding doesn't automatically mean they can be scaled to him. We don't have any evidence that allows those characters to scale to Juyoung. So this is the only point I have an issue with.

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

Being more outstanding doesn't automatically mean they can be scaled to him. We don't have any evidence that allows those characters to scale to Juyoung. So this is the only point I have an issue with.

By outstanding do you mean in terms of skill? Because that isn’t the case. Pretty sure it’s deeper than that and with how blue string is treated, Geniuses tend to be the meta with how they triumphant hardworking individuals. I could’ve sworn I came across a blatant scan but I can’t seem to find it currently. At worst he’d probably still get hypersonic ratings from Hanlim Gym if it’s still considered viable

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

I’m going by memory and if it serves me right apparently a gang organisation from Juvenile Prison was actually mentioned in Study Group. According to a reliable character, Seungha who’s apart of Fukugakukai which is a criminal organisation in Study Group had mentioned he thought Kenichi had been pummelled by Heavenly Dragons but it wasn’t by them. It was by Gamin. If you’re interested you can check season 3 Chapter 243. It’s also retconned that Seungha is relative to Kenichi and was revealed that’s what they agreed on. Narratively it doesn’t make sense for them to be on equal footing considering Kenichi was beaten up badly via Gamin using a weaker technique (Jun Fan) which amplifies his statistics. Then we have Gamin using Fighting Method which is canonically a lot stronger than Jun Fan and he’s able to dominate Seungha. The fact Gamin didn’t settle for Jun Fan but skips right to Fighting Method is proof of this really.

 

[Black_Cat49]

I've only read a few Blue String series, so I won't comment too much. However, what I'd like to know is: why can the characters you mentioned be scaled to Juyoung's Hypersonic+ feat?

Yes, Juyoung has never appeared or had any on-panel interactions or fights with any of those four characters. However, Juyoung is still part of the Blue String Universe.

Characters from Hanlim Gym, such as Youngha Jeon, are considered among the top-tier characters in the universe. Later on, this scaling was extended to other characters who are comparable to Youngha Jeon, such as Hwajin Na, among others.

Therefore, I believe that any character who is comparable to or stronger than Youngha Jeon should scale to the highest level in the Blue String Universe, including Hypersonic+ via Juyoung as well.

• However, if the VSW staff reviewing this concludes that this reasoning is still insufficient, I am completely willing to remove it and instead use Mach 9.08 (Hypersonic) from Hanlim Gym as the scaling standard.

 

[Arthur_Nando444]

All of this still requires better organization and more image scans that correspond to what is being said. I agree with the scale, provided the scans match the account—though I do see issues with some of the calculations, but that is a matter for another time.

 

[Pxnd_013]

By outstanding do you mean in terms of skill? Because that isn’t the case. Pretty sure it’s deeper than that and with how blue string is treated, Geniuses tend to be the meta with how they triumphant hardworking individuals. I could’ve sworn I came across a blatant scan but I can’t seem to find it currently. At worst he’d probably still get hypersonic ratings from Hanlim Gym if it’s still considered viable

Yes, Juyoung has never appeared or had any on-panel interactions or fights with any of those four characters. However, Juyoung is still part of the Blue String Universe.

Characters from Hanlim Gym, such as Youngha Jeon, are considered among the top-tier characters in the universe. Later on, this scaling was extended to other characters who are comparable to Youngha Jeon, such as Hwajin Na, among others.

Therefore, I believe that any character who is comparable to or stronger than Youngha Jeon should scale to the highest level in the Blue String Universe, including Hypersonic+ via Juyoung as well.

• However, if the VSW staff reviewing this concludes that this reasoning is still insufficient, I am completely willing to remove it and instead use Mach 9.08 (Hypersonic) from Hanlim Gym as the scaling standard.

As long as there aren't any clear scans or scaling to support it, I can't agree with it. We need concrete evidence, not personal interpretation. So, for now, I don't agree with scaling them to Hypersonic+ unless there are clear scans supporting it.

 

[Pxnd_013]

I’m going by memory and if it serves me right apparently a gang organisation from Juvenile Prison was actually mentioned in Study Group. According to a reliable character, Seungha who’s apart of Fukugakukai which is a criminal organisation in Study Group had mentioned he thought Kenichi had been pummelled by Heavenly Dragons but it wasn’t by them. It was by Gamin. If you’re interested you can check season 3 Chapter 243. It’s also retconned that Seungha is relative to Kenichi and was revealed that’s what they agreed on. Narratively it doesn’t make sense for them to be on equal footing considering Kenichi was beaten up badly via Gamin using a weaker technique (Jun Fan) which amplifies his statistics. Then we have Gamin using Fighting Method which is canonically a lot stronger than Jun Fan and he’s able to dominate Seungha. The fact Gamin didn’t settle for Jun Fan but skips right to Fighting Method is proof of this really.

I haven't read Study Group and Hanlim Gym, so I'll hold off for now. Once I do, I'll come back and share my thoughts on the Blue String Verse.

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

I haven't read Study Group and Hanlim Gym, so I'll hold off for now. Once I do, I'll come back and share my thoughts on the Blue String Verse.

Just for a heads up both Hanlim Gym and Study Group do actually mention heavenly dragons so it’s not as if they’re random to each other. All 3 respective manwha’s have narrative and Seungha’s statement could actually support scaling in question. But yeah definitely check season 3 chapter 243 as that’s the only chapter that speaks about Juvenile Prison. As for Hanlim Gym I wouldn’t know which chapter

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

Bump

 

[Black_Cat49]

Bump

 

[Pxnd_013]

Just for a heads up both Hanlim Gym and Study Group do actually mention heavenly dragons so it’s not as if they’re random to each other. All 3 respective manwha’s have narrative and Seungha’s statement could actually support scaling in question. But yeah definitely check season 3 chapter 243 as that’s the only chapter that speaks about Juvenile Prison. As for Hanlim Gym I wouldn’t know which chapter

I looked for it but couldn't find it. Could you link that image for me?

I know that Study Group and Juvenile Prison are in the same universe since Gyeom Ma appears in Juvenile Prison. However, what I'm looking for is a scan showing that Gamin can be scaled to Juyoung.

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

I looked for it but couldn't find it. Could you link that image for me?

I know that Study Group and Juvenile Prison are in the same universe since Gyeom Ma appears in Juvenile Prison. However, what I'm looking for is a scan showing that Gamin can be scaled to Juyoung.

Sorry for the long wait I was preoccupied. It can be found here. As aforementioned, statement was said by Seungha himself who’s very credible. I’m pretty sure “Heavenly Dragons” is also alternatively named “Cheonryong” which is what was actually said here. For Seungha to get the impression Kenichi was done in by that gang likely tells us that Cheonryong holds more power and influence than Fukugakukai itself. While this much can be considered true we also have to realise that this statement doesn’t necessarily apply to Gamin or Seungha considering they’re > Kenichi. It’s been made clear from Gamin’s battle against Kenichi using Jun Fan which is narratively portrayed as being weaker than Fighting Method which dominated against powerful foes, Seungha included. We even have stronger narrative of Yeongha’s statements of Gamin and Yeongha actually being overwhelmed by a berserk 17% Fighting Mode Gamin. It should realistically look like this, S2 Base Gamin < Base Kenichi < BL Kenichi =< JF Gamin < S3 Base Gamin < JF Gamin < Base Seungha < Healthy Seungha ?< FM Gamin. This isn’t factoring Yeongha.

Based on my interpretation Gamin would benefit from that scaling in season 2. Honestly I wouldn’t mind settling for a possibly rating. Arguments can be made for it just that we’re not given any direct confirmation but it would be untruthful to say the statement I’ve shared with you doesn’t contribute much.

 

[Lilybitdun]

Is the Hypersonic [Mach 9.08] calc even evaluated?

The only CGM comment is from a now retired member with saying that specific feat is too vague for them to evaluate

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

Is the Hypersonic [Mach 9.08] calc even evaluated?

The only CGM comment is from a now retired member with saying that specific feat is too vague for them to evaluate

Then we probably need a CGM’s input. We can use a substitute calc for now which isn’t an issue. I think we may have some but I’m not too sure. This is the unfortunate thing about some Blue String manwhas, we simply lack calcs. We had a few evaluated but were in desperate need of updated speed ones.

I don’t think Cat is to blame they must’ve used Yeongha’s profile as reference and to be honest his profile is very misleading and outdated.

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

Bump, I also think you should remove the calc @Lilybitdun mentioned since it’s not usable at the moment. It requires further evaluation. Maybe someone should bump it in the evaluation request thread? Assuming it’s been posted on there. If not I can most definitely link it.

 

[Black_Cat49]

Bump, I also think you should remove the calc @Lilybitdun mentioned since it’s not usable at the moment. It requires further evaluation. Maybe someone should bump it in the evaluation request thread? Assuming it’s been posted on there. If not I can most definitely link it.

I’ve updated the blog accordingly.