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The entity from dead by daylight is 2A!

Maniaunavailable said:
I think its some type of soul destruction, as the entity erases it

ppl said its maybe CM/law manip because death itself dosnt apply to anyone at all, so yeah
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yeah. It could be CM/Law manipulation. But it did say to erase the concept of death. and seeing this affects everyone within that realm i guess it checks out

We can go for Soul Erasure rather than Existence Erasure, since writing it as Existence Erasure assumes it can erase all physical traces

PS : I forgot to send this message yesterday
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
yeah. It could be CM/Law manipulation. But it did say to erase the concept of death. and seeing this affects everyone within that realm i guess it checks out

We can go for Soul Erasure rather than Existence Erasure, since writing it as Existence Erasure assumes it can erase all physical traces

PS : I forgot to send this message yesterday
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will make a CM3 thread when this go through

it does but its overtime, the void erases any trace of the survivor
 
Maniaunavailable said:
I don't see Low 1C tbh, cosmology dosnt seem to have an extra temporal axis, and beign superior would just give him HDE, not the low 1C tier
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I’ve listed all the criteria in my cosmology sandbox that provide sufficient evidence that the Entity is a higher dimensional being, thus automatically making her L1-C. I already discussed it in my previous CRT and came to the same conclusion if I recall correctly.
 
Hixkaryana said:
I’ve listed all the criteria in my cosmology sandbox that provide sufficient evidence that the Entity is a higher dimensional being, thus automatically making her L1-C. I already discussed it in my previous CRT and came to the same conclusion if I recall correctly.
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Over here if interested.
+ see this ; the Entity checks « Yes » and « Yes » which qualifies for 5-D
 
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Hixkaryana said:
I’ve listed all the criteria in my cosmology sandbox that provide sufficient evidence that the Entity is a higher dimensional being, thus automatically making her L1-C. I already discussed it in my previous CRT and came to the same conclusion if I recall correctly.
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if 2A passes through then I will try 5D ig
 
The EE should just be listed as mind/soul erasure (which for all intents and purposes is the same thing) it just doesn't affect the physical body, really, it's somewhat like the exact inverse of baseline EE which by default doesn't affect the mind or soul. Apart from that I share similar thoughts with Jedi regarding the other stuff, and agree the entity probably is still just 3A (with 2A range or smth)
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
The EE should just be listed as mind/soul erasure (which for all intents and purposes is the same thing) it just doesn't affect the physical body, really, it's somewhat like the exact inverse of baseline EE which by default doesn't affect the mind or soul. Apart from that I share similar thoughts with Jedi regarding the other stuff, and agree the entity probably is still just 3A (with 2A range or smth)
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How could The Entity possibly be 3-A when The Realms themselves are 2-A
 
Hixkaryana said:
How could The Entity possibly be 3-A when The Realms themselves are 2-A
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Because it doesn't do these things in a single action and is described as travelling across the endless cosmos and targets worlds individually, if it could do it in one action then targeting them individually would be pretty nonsensical, maybe as Ang4l00 said you could argue L2C-2C based on the realms but that's a separate matter
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
Because it doesn't do these things in a single action and is described as travelling across the endless cosmos and targets worlds individually, if it could do it in one action then targeting them individually would be pretty nonsensical, maybe as Ang4l00 said you could argue L2C-2C based on the realms but that's a separate matter
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I don’t see why The Entity’s actions not being instantaneous changes its tier. It travels between an infinity of universes and selects an infinity of them. The Realms are already de jure 2-A because they represent an infinite amount of STC’s that contain an infinite amount of STC’s (Terra Worlds), all of them are embedded on the Entity and there is credible evidence that it shows relative superiority to them. Containing an infinite amount of 2-A structures, viewing the lower planes as infinitesimal and being infinite in size automatically grants 5-dimensionality.
 
Hixkaryana said:
I don’t see why The Entity’s actions not being instantaneous changes its tier. It travels between an infinity of universes and selects an infinity of them. The Realms are already de jure 2-A because they represent an infinite amount of STC’s that contain an infinite amount of STC’s (Terra Worlds), all of them are embedded on the Entity and there is credible evidence that it shows relative superiority to them. Containing an infinite amount of 2-A structures, viewing the lower planes as infinitesimal and being infinite in size automatically grants 5-dimensionality.
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Probably best to get on track with what exactly it is ya'll are doing, it's never a good look for one supporter to say one thing and another to say a completely different thing. Setting the entire 5D jargon aside, the point is that traveling between an infinite amount of universes over time and destroying them individually is vastly different to doing so in a single action (the latter is something a 2A character has to do) I didn't really see that much evidence in the OP to suggest every single world is 2A and in fact, was under the impression the purpose of the OP was to make the entire cosmology 2A as a whole which would contradict this. So I'm a little confused why you're arguing something different than what's being proposed
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
Probably best to get on track with what exactly it is ya'll are doing, it's never a good look for one supporter to say one thing and another to say a completely different thing. Setting the entire 5D jargon aside, the point is that traveling between an infinite amount of universes over time and destroying them individually is vastly different to doing so in a single action (the latter is something a 2A character has to do) I didn't really see that much evidence in the OP to suggest every single world is 2A and in fact, was under the impression the purpose of the OP was to make the entire cosmology 2A as a whole which would contradict this. So I'm a little confused why you're arguing something different than what's being proposed
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Yeah that’s okay, a few messages earlier I sent the work I did around 2 years ago that led to the creation of a CRT that never really got any attention. I’m arguing against the OP in favor of the scale I already established.
 
Hixkaryana said:
I’ll remake a CRT if needed, but honestly it’s quite easy to defend
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not at all, as they said here, anything highter than multiversal isnt valid as we don't know if the entity could destroy everything in one blow to make him higher. he has 5D HDE at max BUT NOT low 1C stats, there is nothing suggesting he is. its the same case as shibai from naruto
 
Maniaunavailable said:
not at all, as they said here, anything highter than multiversal isnt valid as we don't know if the entity could destroy everything in one blow to make him higher. he has 5D HDE at max BUT NOT low 1C stats, there is nothing suggesting he is. its the same case as shibai from naruto
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Again I really don’t understand the idea of constructing and destructing stuff instantaneously. Dimensionally speaking it’s quite literally undeniable, « nothing suggesting » is frankly ridiculous. I also don’t really grasp how you want her to get 5D HDE and not L1-C…having 5D HDE = being L1-C.
 
Hixkaryana said:
Again I really don’t understand the idea of constructing and destructing stuff instantaneously. Dimensionally speaking it’s quite literally undeniable, « nothing suggesting » is frankly ridiculous. I also don’t really grasp how you want her to get 5D HDE and not L1-C…having 5D HDE = being L1-C.
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HDE is diffrent from actual stats lol. him beign 5D dosnt translate to L1C tier instantily.
 
Hixkaryana said:
It does.
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No it doesn't
Characters or objects who can significantly affect, create and/or destroy higher-dimensional structures that are one uncountably infinite level above Low 2-C structures. In ordinary distribution, this corresponds to R^5 (5-dimensional real coordinate space).

Equivalently, this tier can be reached by affecting/creating/destroying/embodying an uncountably infinite number of universes (More specifically, as many universes as there are real numbers).
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They need to have feats that are 5D, they can't become Low 1-C just by being a 5D creature
 
ThePrimalHunter said:
No it doesn't

They need to have feats that are 5D, they can't become Low 1-C just by being 5D
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The article that was provided by Amon still aligns with the Entity’s feats (autonomy, embedded 2-A structures, hierarchical superiority…)

« One of the more straightforward ways to qualify for Tier 2 and up through higher dimensions is by affecting whole higher-dimensional universes which can embed the whole of lower-dimensional ones within themselves. »

If that isn’t literally one of the points in my sandbox..
 
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Hixkaryana said:
« One of the more straightforward ways to qualify for Tier 2 and up through higher dimensions is by affecting whole higher-dimensional universes which can embed the whole of lower-dimensional ones within themselves. »
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the entity actually never affects the whole cosmology, she's a creator not a destroyer lmao. at max she's baseline multiversal
 
Maniaunavailable said:
there is not such concept as 5D, in fact we don't even know how DbD handelds dimensions at all lmao. there is not low 1C meta here
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The wiki doesn’t require a verse to literally use the term ‘5D.’ It allows higher-dimensionality to be inferred from the cosmology. In fact it would be worse if DBD directly stated that The Entity was 5-D.
 
Hixkaryana said:
The wiki doesn’t require a verse to literally use the term ‘5D.’ It allows higher-dimensionality to be inferred from the cosmology. In fact it would be worse if DBD directly stated that The Entity was 5-D.
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not my point, we don't know how DbD handles higher dimensional tiers.
 
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