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Hey man, how is it going? I'm about to create some JoJo profiles for a brazilian wiki, so I'd like to ask for your permission to use this calc that you made. I intend to translate it to portuguese and, of course, give you all of the credits for the calc
I agree with you in that last thing, but I really don't think that's what Griffon meant. The funny thing is that Griffon's original statement in Japanese might even be completely different, since apparently many of the dialogues in the game have slight problems in the English version
Again, if Griffon meant that, he wouldn't use "can do" when talking about Vergil, since it wouldn't make sense grammatically. What he's saying is basically "Vergil is much more powerful than us, so knowing that you had even a little bit of trouble with us, imagine what he can do to you"
Griffon literally states that Dante had a little bit of trouble in defeating them, so you either assume that Dante had trouble with three 7-B demons or that he had a small difficulty with two that are 7-B and one that is 3-A
As for what you said about Mundus fearing him and laying waste to the...
Assuming that this eventually gets accepted, I believe Nightmare should have two keys in his original profile, "Full power" and "Restrained" : "At least Universe level, possibly Universe level+ (His power could lay waste to the Demon World, which is bigger than our universe. His power was feared...
Oh, ok. It's only that the arguments against the upgrade were answered and I don't think there's anything left to discuss. I mean, it's a pretty solid upgrade
Wouldn't Azathoth be possibly Low 1-C? There's a quote in his profile that says he's "beyond time and space" and exists in the "outer limits of existence"
The fact that Mundus, a tier 3 being, feared Nightmare's power and had to restrain it because of such fear isn't evidence for Nightmare being a tier 3? I don't get how saying "This doesn't support 3-A for Nightmare" automatically invalidates the argument, but ok.
With your interpretation...
Laying waste to the demon world would simply be considered further evidence for tier 3, that's all.
What you said about Mundus contradicts the manga, since its clearly stated that Mundus himself feared Nightmare and his power. Nothing suggests that he was simply afraid of Nightmare attacking...
Nightmare is currently at the 7-B tier by scalling from other characters like Griffon and Echidna. This also applies to the "familiar version" that we see in DMC5.
DMC1 Nightmare
However, chapter 8 of the manga Visions of V gives us more details about Nightmare's origin. According to it...