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StrymULTRA
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    Also I have a question, will Monica win against Zeno 5D?? (D.B)
    Hello! Since you're the main DDLC supporter (and my knowledge is pretty darn shit since it's been forever since I played it), do you think Monika could beat/incon Wang Wei, which is one of the characters in the strongest 4-D/Non-Smurf list?
    StrymULTRA
    StrymULTRA
    I don't want a VS thread lol, besides we can just talk about it here.

    Besides the Nondual stuff was nerfed to be just cosmetic from DT iirc.
    Rikimarox2
    Rikimarox2
    ND1 was nerfed to hell and back, ND2 is a bit different iirc, ND3 is... well, I don't know honestly. The page states that unless the opponent exists in the same state, they can't be affected.

    But let's ignore that for now, since they butchered ND and it's really weird now.

    Wang Wei, currently, has the passive stuff, which will just turn her into NEP (tho it'll be painful, so I'm not sure if she'll immediately delete or not, considering Sayori's stuff, and likely be in pain for a while). Then there's the whole "Fundamental" levels, which, I'm honestly not sure how they work in a versus match. Basically, there are levels of fundamental stuff in the verse, for concepts/info/law specifically. I think 1-2 levels above normal concept type 1 (not just layers, btw, verse already has nuts amount of layers, but its about quality, ie above them entirely).

    He also has Fate Erasure (not normal fate shenanigans that other verses have) that erases you from the River of Fate, which is more potent than History Erasure (People who had their history/timeline erased still existed in the River of Fate, with a direct statement that Fate surpasses time, and is below it completely). Oh and it works on Aca type 4 and stuff.

    He also can interact with NEP2, fyi. Plenty in the verse have NEP2, yet they don't reach his level at all (Tho I didn't make layers, so it isn't layered but just basically he can interact).

    Oh and BTW, isn't the Real World also just, another universe? Can't Wang Wei just destroy it, or would it not affect Monika?
    StrymULTRA
    StrymULTRA
    TBF if he can just touch NEP 2 and insta **** her up with passives, there's not much of a debate then?
    Hey, since you're a DDLC and Undertale supporter, do you think any characters from those both Verses can beat Parca in strongest 4-D Characters contest?
    StrymULTRA
    StrymULTRA
    No I mean how Parca uses CM 1? Coz that's relevant for UT characters.
    Megaraptor149
    Megaraptor149
    Yeah, her main Hax is concept of fate (CM1) which govern everything in universe like natural order (law), as well as a thing like life, story, event, possiblities are the product from concept of fate. Not mention she had defensive abilities like AE1 based on Concept Type 1 and Immo9 where reside in higher conceptual plane of existence beyond regular universes.
    StrymULTRA
    StrymULTRA
    I suppose she'd incap them then.

    For Monika it'd be wise to wait for the revisions, aye
    Can you explain why Bill and Shacktron scales to the Nightmare Realm's space-time continuum? The fact that you didn't mention why in your CRT gave me the impression that you were just trying to upgrade the cosmology, but apparently that's not the case. Interdimensional Portal is just shaking up Nightmare Realm, where is the proof that the infinite alternate versions of Nightmare Realm have been significantly affected?
    StrymULTRA
    StrymULTRA
    Because of Time Baby saying that Bill will destroy reality itself and called Bill a threat for the timeline, meaning that the Weirdmageddon scales to the 2nd flow of time.

    There's no need to scale to other versions of the Nightmare Realm, as a single one is already with a higher flow of time, hence +2D compared to the multiverse.
    CodeCCLL
    CodeCCLL
    Okay, if you didn't do it by mistake and there is a reason, then there's no problem.
    StrymULTRA
    StrymULTRA
    Yeah, though I know that Shacktron's justification is indeed a bit wonky given the whole shaking thing (you cannot really shake a time lol), and I didn't know how to re-edit it.

    Though I did so as I figured out a way to make it look less weird. Thanks.
    Thank you for commenting on my post, I just wanted to see Death get annihilated due to the constant wank of him, so even if you hate the post this is good towards us. I saw one of those 2023 posts of Death beating Bill Cipher in Versus edits.
    Info 2 - Plot - Concept

    Basically, Undertale only needs one.
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    StrymULTRA
    StrymULTRA
    ...it has already Info 2.
    Phsccarvalho
    Phsccarvalho
    Oh, translated it wrong.

    I meant "only one of the three is missing now"

    Unless there are discrepancies in the current crt out of nowhere.
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    The blue eyes white dragon? Planning a yugioh upgrade or you just that goated.




    also now I'm gonna have an exodio pfp to spite you
    StrymULTRA
    StrymULTRA
    I am just celebrating the BEWD Support (also I literally have the Exodia model kit at home lmao).
    Electronic74947
    Electronic74947
    Oh yeah I heard about that, apparently it's really good
    Question regarding your recent staff thread; Will Fate/Plot manipulation remain as separate pages, or will they be deleted, when integrated into "History manipulation"?
    (If it even gets accepted)
    Can you please give a vote or thoughts to this match? I have been looking around for users familiar with Die Hard and the James Bond films, and now I'm just messaging anyone I can because it seems that many of the James Bond fans in the versus community have left over the years. the score is currently 4 in favor of John McClane and 1 in favor of James Bond. I don't know how familiar you may be with either, but I saw you in a James Bond thread once. If you aren't familar with them and can't make a decision just from their profiles and what has already been sdiscussed, I understand.

    Here you go!
    Btw, Asriel has resist to 4D soul damage right? As the soul is as strong as their physical body + Asriel is 2-B
    Pointing this post out in case you missed it
    Actually, at this point, would one of you two be interested in applying this CRT?

    I just realised there'd be a whole lot more stuff to litigate (determining which characters who go down to possibly MHS+ will be able to scale to Knight Knight, and which will have to scale to Greater Dog), and I'd rather not have another page of this if possible.

    If I don't have to personally type it out, it'll be a lot easier for me to overlook any scaling choices I disagree with.
    I am in the power scaling mood. Do you want to try to fix rejected Undertale calculations or find feats that haven't been covered yet?
    Or do you prefer to search for more feats for Deltarune?
    Moving here to not derail
    The thing is already accepted, so you'd need to make a thread for it.

    Plus Frisk being at least the speed that's above Tsunderplane during Sans' fight should be a given as they were filled with DT there obviously, and that many times showcased to increase speed, meaning that Frisk being somehow slower than how they were during Undying would be dumb.
    Thinking about it a smidge more, I'm more fine with it thinking of the route like "The calc has them with four sea teas dodging at Mach 8.74, and we're just upscaling that since Sans/Flowey blitz late-game Frisk". That sort of ~15% jump is around the upper edge of what I'd accept, but isn't anything to get upset about really.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    I believe DB gets to use its speed amps consistently since they're stated. They're a surprisingly uncommon case in that regard.

    and yes, I did once try to downgrade that until evidence of them being stated was provided
    StrymULTRA
    StrymULTRA
    Honestly, as the Sea Tea always increased x2 here, we can't assume it arbitrairly makes stuff go lower sometimes for the sake of getting low end, even if you look foolish at it.

    It's a game multiplier after all.
    StrymULTRA
    StrymULTRA
    Nvm I got what you're meaning here.

    Meh, don't wanna fight about it, not in the mood.
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    I am going to make a thread in a few days about all the abilities that the Undertale characters like Undyne, Mettaton, Asgore, etc... need.
    So if there is something you want me to put on the thread you can tell me. I will start making a sandbox soon
    StrymULTRA
    StrymULTRA
    FYI I won't make any CRT regarding it, I gave ya the info to guide you at doing it instead. The only reason why I broke my hiatus is the MHS downgrade, but after that I'll be gone.

    Just know that 8-B won't be acceptable given that the gap is too large.
    Monsters_fight
    Monsters_fight
    Got it. I will add the High 8-C+ downgrade in my CRT
    Monsters_fight
    Monsters_fight
    Some Undertale characters also need an Intelligence update, like Undyne and Mettaton. Also, some minor fixes need to be done.
    I will address these + the addition of some abilities + the AP Downgrade
    Vote here?

    hello can u give me ur opinion

    YugiOh arc?
    StrymULTRA
    StrymULTRA
    I was always a fan (not in a powerscaling sense tho).

    I have multiple merch of it at home as well.
    The full power of Frisk soul is High 7-C because it rivals the entirety of Underground and blah blah blah
    But I have a question.
    Would Frisk at LV 20 count as if their soul was at their peak (without counting 2-B Frisk)?
    Would LV 20 Frisk be High 7-C?
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