Enrico Pucci Immeasurable speed

Immeasurable (Movement unbound from the flow of linear time, which cannot be measured. Given that S = D/T, if T is undefined, the speed formula cannot be applied. This is the same reason why multiple temporal dimensions also grant immeasurable speed. For further information, see the "Further Explanations"-section below)



In the case of Pucci, as we are mentioned, he has the ability to accelerate time to infinity to restart the universe, however the only one who can move freely through the universe even if time is infinite is Pucci. If Pucci's speed were infinite during his maximum acceleration, it will not match the context given in the manga. Infinite speed is equivalent to traveling an infinite distance in finite time, which would give us infinite speed, the other way would be to travel a finite distance in time 0, which gives us infinite speed, but in the case of jojos, The time is infinite, the distance is not specified, but if it were any finite quantity, it would give us that the speed is 0, this does not fit with Pucci's ability, which is specified that he can move even if time is INFINITE ,
Knowing that time is accelerated by pucci's speed, he would need a speed faster than infinite for time to be infinite,which would indicate that his speed goes beyond the conventional formula and the time of Pucci's speed is not defined, in turn, Pucci was able to move from the end of the universe, then through the big bang, to finally stop the acceleration of time in 2011 to meet emporio(SHORT EXPLANATION HERE), taking into account that the Immeasurable speed allows the characters to go from the origin of time to the end of the universe or anywhere in the timeline, Pucci would rate with the speed incommensurable by speed standards, only when time reaches infinity. Although it is mentioned that pucci's speed is infinite, and therefore it should not be incommensurable, the reality is that the stats, more than anything, imply the magnitude of the state, incommensurable and infinite can be synonymous in different contexts, Because infinity cannot be measured, that is why it is represented with this symbol “∞”

This would make characters like Giorno have immeasurable speed because it scales over the top, Notorius B.I.G could copy that speed because they have the same statistics.

Time is not accelerated by Pucci's speed. Pucci's speed is accelerated by time going faster.

BestMGQScalerEver said:

Time is not accelerated by Pucci's speed. Pucci's speed is accelerated by time going faster.

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Made in Heaven's ability uses the gravitational forces of the universe to increase the speed of time

Clave444 said:

Made in Heaven's ability uses the gravitational forces of the universe to increase the speed of time

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This kinda proves my point. Pucci is able keep up with time acceleration.

BestMGQScalerEver said:

This kinda proves my point. Pucci is able keep up with time acceleration.

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If its speed is given by time, the speed of him would be 0 according to the speed formula. In any case, Pucci traveled from the end of the universe, then through the big bang until 2011, which is more similar to an immeasurable speed than to an infinite

Clave444 said:

If its speed is given by time, its speed would be 0 according to the speed formula. In any case, Pucci traveled from the end of the universe, then through the big bang until 2011, which is more similar to an immeasurable speed than to an infinite

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0 time speed is infinite. Also it's not literal time travel through speed but the universe going through what is basically a cycle of creation and destruction upon time reaching infinity.

i have no idea how you got this idea from his ability

Pucci manipulates gravity to accelerate time everywhere, but organic beings are unaffected by it, however, his immense speed is granted because he "keeps up" with the accelerated flow, AKA it affects him

he is not accelerating time with his speed nor is he time travelling to the end of the universe, the universe is being speed up and pucci is being affected by it unlike everywhere else, if he had immensurable speed he would've blitzed and killed everyone instantly instead of getting faster and faster, and wouldn't have been affected by time stops

is like granting someone infinite speed due to them being able to stop time and them move around it, or for being able to teleport

Thelastmlg said:

i have no idea how you got this idea from his ability

Pucci manipulates gravity to accelerate time everywhere, but organic beings are unaffected by it, however, his immense speed is granted because he "keeps up" with the accelerated flow, AKA it affects him

he is not accelerating time with his speed nor is he time travelling to the end of the universe, the universe is being speed up and pucci is being affected by it unlike everywhere else, if he had immensurable speed he would've blitzed and killed everyone instantly instead of getting faster and faster, and wouldn't have been affected by time stops

is like granting someone infinite speed due to them being able to stop time and them move around it, or for being able to teleport

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I understand that pucci is given infinite speed when time accelerates to infinity, his speed is ftl until MSFTL+ before time reaches infinity, the problem is that it is mentioned that pucci is the only one that can move even if time becomes infinite, and if infinite time gives speed 0, that is, immobile, not infinite.

Clave444 said:

I understand that pucci is given infinite speed when time accelerates to infinity, his speed is ftl until MSFTL+ before time reaches infinity, the problem is that it is mentioned that pucci is the only one that can move even if time becomes infinite, and if infinite time gives speed 0, that is, immobile, not infinite.

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Someone with immeasurable speed could move even if time is infinite, and the scan mentions that he is the only one who can move even if time is infinite.

Clave444 said:

I understand that pucci is given infinite speed when time accelerates to infinity, his speed is ftl until MSFTL+ before time reaches infinity, the problem is that it is mentioned that pucci is the only one that can move even if time becomes infinite, and if infinite time gives speed 0, that is, immobile, not infinite.

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time doesn't become infinite, the acceleration of time reaches infinity, aka time moves instantly, and thus pucci himself moves instantly and thus infinite speed, also this has nothing to do with immensurable speed

Pucci doesn't even reach infinite speed. Most overrated mf in the verse, not even in top 5.

1. Made in Heaven operates on the Big Crunch theory.

The Big Crunch is a hypothetical scenario for the ultimate fate of the universe, in which the expansion of the universe eventually reverses and the universe recollapses, ultimately causing the cosmic scale factor to reach zero, an event potentially followed by a reformation of the universe starting with another Big Bang.

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This is exactly what was shown in both the anime and well, the manga. I don’t think I need to explain why infinite time isn’t needed for this

1. Reaching infinity by accelerating is not possible according to the simple principle of "infinity" since a growing finite number will always be finite.

1. It was never stated in the anime nor the manga that Made in Heaven has infinite speed. Rather, the following was stated:

Accelerating time to infinity

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“Accelerating time to infinity" can easily just refer to a theoretical concept where time is being manipulated or altered in a way that it appears to speed up infinitely. This interpretation suggests the idea of time moving at an ever-increasing pace, possibly beyond comprehension. Or it can be interperted as accelerating time until the singularity. Singularity is a point of infinite density, therefore he’d be accelerating time to infinity (aka the singularity).

1. In an interview with Hirohiko Araki titled “Stone Ocean Bunko Vol. 11” from February 2009., Araki states the following:

Time itself was getting faster and faster and outpacing human senses, approaching infinity itself, or at least as close to infinity as possible.

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So even Araki himself verbatim stated that Made in Heaven just accelerates time up to a REALLY fast point rather than infinity itself. This also explains his Stand stats. It is a methaporical way of saying that he accelerates time “as close to infinity as possible”.