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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Idk. Going by feats, Jogo and Hanami are relative in physicals to Yuji and Todo, I don't see either being that high in finger level. And if you think finger level was meant to refer to curse energy amount then maybe I can see that but then its less about scaling.
That's by statements, and statements also say that Kenjaku would have trouble capturing Jogo

Really, the problem is his lack of feats that aren't him getting bitched by Gojo and Sukuna
 
That's by statements, and statements also say that Kenjaku would have trouble capturing Jogo
No that isn't what's said. Its that against Mahito and Jogo he'd have trouble. This is likely due to certain conditions needing to be met or fighting two powerful curses with potentially one shot abilities and the fact both are able to evolve in the middle of battle.

The problem, really, is his lack of feats that aren't him getting bitched by Gojo and Sukuna
I mean it isn't like he has good feats otherwise.
 
No that isn't what's said. Its that against Mahito and Jogo he'd have trouble. This is likely due to certain conditions needing to be met or fighting two powerful curses with potentially one shot abilities and the fact both are able to evolve in the middle of battle.
So he'd have trouble against Jogo. Got it

Seriously, the last point only provably applies to Mahito, and even his feats aren't at Kenjaku's level
I mean it isn't like he has good feats otherwise.
That's what I'm saying. He is hyped up for getting his shit kicked in by them
 
Seriously, the last point only provably applies to Mahito, and even his feats aren't at Kenjaku's level
You may be downplaying Jogo and Mahito. Mahito spamming various transfigured humans, soul haxxing any curses Kenjaku throws, Jogo placing numerous volcanos, his speed as well, both of them running up on Kenjaku is simply a tight spot, they probably would do better than Yuki and Lhoso.

Heavily weakened in terms of mentality right
Nah it says he was being damaged by the simulations from Takaba.

Yuta pulled up on a weakened Kenjaku, with less curses likely zero of them being special grade, and a distracted Kenjaku.
 
You may be downplaying Jogo and Mahito. Mahito spamming various transfigured humans, soul haxxing any curses Kenjaku throws, Jogo placing numerous volcanos, his speed as well, both of them running up on Kenjaku is simply a tight spot, they probably would do better than Yuki and Lhoso.
What I meant by that was:

Get Mahito past Shibuya Yuji and Todo first
 
I think Jogo is overrated as hell. Sure, he got ****** up by fighting Gojo and Sukuna but I don’t know how it proves he’s strong.

His other feats are one taping weakened Naobito, Maki and Nanami.

He gets cooked by the 4 Special Grade Sorcerers, get cooked by Higuruma (Domain + sword gg). Toji/Maki absolutely demolishes his ass, so does CT Kashimo, Yorozu and Kenjaku. Current Yuji might defeat him as well, same for Uraume.
 
I think Jogo is overrated as hell. Sure, he got ****** up by fighting Gojo and Sukuna but I don’t know how it proves he’s strong.

His other feats are one taping weakened Naobito, Maki and Nanami.

He gets cooked by the 4 Special Grade Sorcerers, get cooked by Higuruma (Domain + sword gg). Toji/Maki absolutely demolishes his ass, so does CT Kashimo, Yorozu and Kenjaku. Current Yuji might defeat him as well, same for Uraume.
Jogo is stuck in a middle ground of having no notable feats while also having varying statements that either shoot him down or prop him up
 
Get Mahito past Shibuya Yuji and Todo first
Dude what?

He gets cooked by the 4 Special Grade Sorcerers, get cooked by Higuruma (Domain + sword gg). Toji/Maki absolutely demolishes his ass, so does CT Kashimo, Yorozu and Kenjaku. Current Yuji might defeat him as well, same for Uraume.
Yeah mhm
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Yuji is still comparable to him, big dawg. Kenjaku has scaling SIGNIFICANTLY away from that to the point that Shinjuku Yuta had to sneak him
He is not comparable??? His attacks can't get through, he would've been torn apart by Mahito. Kenjaku ain't like that. Especially once he get two domains on him? Mahito and Jogo would've destroyed him. Not hearing anymore.

Anime only, even Panda and Kusakabe dodged this.
That shit is so god damn slow 😭
Panda and Kusakabe fought Kashimo and Sukuna, Kashimo a lightning timer god, and Sukuna... well he's ftl so yeah.
 
What are you even talking about
I'm talking about being able to track Todo's swapping target. You're acting like if Sukuna reveals he can do so, it'd be an asspull. But seeing as being able to identify a curse techinque's usage and even which one it'll be was already established by Sukuna, that's a perfectly reasonable thing for him to do
 
He is not comparable??? His attacks can't get through, he would've been torn apart by Mahito. Kenjaku ain't like that. Especially once he get two domains on him? Mahito and Jogo would've destroyed him. Not hearing anymore.
My point is he's still able to fight back properly
Panda and Kusakabe fought Kashimo and Sukuna, Kashimo a lightning timer god, and Sukuna... well he's ftl so yeah.
Saying Panda fought Kashimo like it's any point for scaling is very generous. Also, the Kusakabe that fought Sukuna isn't the same one who dodged this, so that has less ground

But you're on the FTL Sukuna train, so I forgive all that the weakened Sukuna that Kusakabe threw hands with was sure as shit not FTL
 
Well yeah, he was probably ftl+ considering Maki just amped him mentally and he the boost from Bf.
It was a boost right off of him getting greatly weakened. And regardless, he DEFINITELY did not exert that same effort against friggin Kusakabe given he effortlessly defeats him once he stops entertaining him
 
I'm talking about being able to track Todo's swapping target. You're acting like if Sukuna reveals he can do so, it'd be an asspull. But seeing as being able to identify a curse techinque's usage and even which one it'll be was already established by Sukuna, that's a perfectly reasonable thing for him to do
Sukuna being able to do this is fine, what I said it’d be suspicious is the CE traces. As of now Boogie doesn’t leave CE traces.

Giving his “weaknesses” to BW would be an asspull, despite making sense, given the timing of the reveal.
 
Sukuna being able to do this is fine, what I said it’d be suspicious is the CE traces. As of now Boogie doesn’t leave CE traces.

Giving his “weaknesses” to BW would be an asspull, despite making sense, given the timing of the reveal.
Don't sorcerers leave residuals regardless?
 
It was a boost right off of him getting greatly weakened. And regardless, he DEFINITELY did not exert that same effort against friggin Kusakabe given he effortlessly defeats him once he stops entertaining him
It wasn't effortless, Sukuna got blitzed several times and realized if he didn't take him serious, he'd die. If anything he couldn't exert that effort cuz Kusakabe was so vastly above him.
 
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Uraume say we've won, Kusakabe say Gojo won. Gojo did not win. Will Sukuna win or is this Gege's way of saying Sukuna won't win?
Maybe since I doubt Gege made this callback unintentionally (Uraume's pose even mimics Gojo's oft-memed "Nah, I'd win" panel, further indicating a possible catastrophic loss incoming for Sukuna), but we'll just have to wait and see.
 
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Uraume say we've won, Kusakabe say Gojo won. Gojo did not win. Will Sukuna win or is this Gege's way of saying Sukuna won't win?
While it might not be meant to exactly mirror what happened with Gojo, I do believe this is supposed to be saying that Sukuna has revealed his full hand. So at this point, no matter what, there's nothing new for him to reveal (at least in terms of ability)
 
Eh, the most he'd probably end up doing is either something to quickly boost output recovery or to get his CT back sooner at this point, and I can't imagine there's really any way he could make a good trade off to get the former so I think it unlikely any new binding vows revealed that allow for a dramatic swinging of the pendulum again.
 
Eh, the most he'd probably end up doing is either something to quickly boost output recovery or to get his CT back sooner at this point, and I can't imagine there's really any way he could make a good trade off to get the former so I think it unlikely any new binding vows revealed that allow for a dramatic swinging of the pendulum again.
I'm playing. I don't think he has anything new to bring to the table
 
Breaks the 1000 year old binding vow that he placed which locked the ct he got from eating his brother in exchange for amplifying Shrine. Now Shrine will be weak and his brother's ct will be usable and that ct is spatial manipulation.
 
Don't sorcerers leave residuals regardless?
My understanding is that most sorcerers that leave residuals are the ones who haven't refined their efficiency enough to avoid wasting notable amounts of CE. I think it's a safe assumption that someone of Todo's intelligence, level of skill and experience wouldn't leave any significant amounts of residual CE unless he deliberately did so. At the same time, I'd also say it's very likely that Sukuna could detect even the tiniest of residuals.
That's by statements, and statements also say that Kenjaku would have trouble capturing Jogo

Really, the problem is his lack of feats that aren't him getting bitched by Gojo and Sukuna
Been a while since I've seen/read that part. Maybe some of the different translations hold different contexts, but I took to mean that Kenny J finds taking on Jogo doable but would prefer a more efficient/frugal route. I mean, when I go shopping for eggs, I'll get them at the store sells them at the cheapest price. They're the exact same eggs from size, amount, quality, brand etc. but this location sells them for a buck less and you don't leave money on the table.


Also, been looking into the thermobaric topic of Sukuna's domain. So far, I can't find any rules or policies on this wiki that regard the specificity of a thermobaric explosion other than one calc and a few real world weapons profiles. Still trying to look further into those and some articles but it's kinda going over my head.
 
Holy based + facts. Jogoat memes had a time and place but now I'm at my wits end. Some people think he has some Mahito level of growth and if Sukuna didn't kill him he would solo Mahoraga lol (despite Sukuna's dialogue literally explaining why he couldn't... then again TikTok comments are not a source of peak discussion)
 
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