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The Will to Evolve: Asuna Kamakura Vs. Project 99 (Path of Wills Vs. Hollow Dead-Shift) (1-4-0)

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Voidstorm
The Voidstorm Zone

  • Starting Distance is 50 Meters.
  • Standard Equipment for both. Tabbie is allowed.
  • Both are 8-A.


Asuna KamakuraProject 99
Votes: @Rayfire Votes: @Username_uhhhIdontknow , @Phoenks , @VNova , @AppleMaker
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So, Soul Energy in Path of Wills is a spiritual power that turns willpower and imagination into real physical effects. For Asuna, this magic grows stronger based on her emotions, acting like an evolving ability. With Supernatural Willpower, she can bridge the gap between herself and stronger opponents by simply refusing to lose.

If Asuna makes it through the first 30 seconds of the fight, her Reactive Evolution and Supernatural Willpower start to kick in. Since Project 99 is a biological experiment, her ability to attack the soul would go past their bone armor and durability.

However, Project 99’s regen negation is a direct counter to Asuna’s type 2 Immortality. If Project 99 lands a "Hand Spike" that erupts inside her, Asuna might not be able to heal the damage using Soul Energy, as Project 99's power specifically stops regeneration, which also killed Voidd, Banshees, and Mariah.
 
However, Project 99’s regen negation is a direct counter to Asuna’s type 2 Immortality. If Project 99 lands a "Hand Spike" that erupts inside her, Asuna might not be able to heal the damage using Soul Energy, as Project 99's power specifically stops regeneration, which also killed Voidd, Banshees, and Mariah.
Asuna has plenty of space to avoid something like that, and as far as I know, nobody that Project 99 has ever fought has the same kind of skill or uncanny sense for imminent danger that she has, which makes it really unlikely to me that the spikes could take her off guard. I know that he can adapt to their opponents, but the justification for this is a lot more vague than Asuna's. Does Project 99 have any other way of winning other than spikes?
 
Asuna has plenty of space to avoid something like that, and as far as I know, nobody that Project 99 has ever fought has the same kind of skill or uncanny sense for imminent danger that she has, which makes it really unlikely to me that the spikes could take her off guard. I know that he can adapt to their opponents, but the justification for this is a lot more vague than Asuna's. Does Project 99 have any other way of winning other than spikes?
Yes, Project 99 can manifest bone spikes through anything they touch, so they don’t need to hit Asuna directly. They can turn the ground she’s standing on into a weapon to attack her. So Earth Manipulation and Matter Manipulation (and obviously the abilities listed).

Project 99’s best chance of winning is by controlling the environment, using the area around them to trap Asuna so she can’t move freely. If they can force the fight into close range, their instinctive reactions (even fighting while unconscious) and dem spikes could finish the fight. But also, Asuna is really smart in fights and can tell when danger is coming.
 
Yes, Project 99 can manifest bone spikes through anything they touch, so they don’t need to hit Asuna directly. They can turn the ground she’s standing on into a weapon to attack her. So Earth Manipulation and Matter Manipulation (and obviously the abilities listed).

Project 99’s best chance of winning is by controlling the environment, using the area around them to trap Asuna so she can’t move freely. If they can force the fight into close range, their instinctive reactions (even fighting while unconscious) and dem spikes could finish the fight. But also, Asuna is really smart in fights and can tell when danger is coming.
I doubt this would happen tbh, it doesn't sound hard for her to jump over or move between them and continue fighting. Asuna could also very easily turn this against him if they obscure 99's line of sight or prevent him from travelling in a specific direction unless he can retract them. Also, is there anything preventing her from destroying the spikes themselves?
 
I doubt this would happen tbh, it doesn't sound hard for her to jump over or move between them and continue fighting. Asuna could also very easily turn this against him if they obscure 99's line of sight or prevent him from travelling in a specific direction unless he can retract them. Also, is there anything preventing her from destroying the spikes themselves?
She could use Prominence Burst to destroy the spikes. But Project 99 can change the size of the spikes and eventually create something like a “spike forest” to trap her. If 99 lands even one hit, Asuna loses her ability to ignore damage, making injuries that she would normally survive much more dangerous.

Project 99’s spikes can "erupt inside opponents and burst outward, bypassing durability." Tabbie is an extremely advanced AI who can restore any damage to Project 99’s willpower (soul too). Project 99 basically has an endless supply of fighting spirit. While Asuna has to push herself to keep going, Tabbie can reset 99’s mental and emotional state fatigue, keeping them at full efficiency while Asuna eventually gets worn out.
 
She could use Prominence Burst to destroy the spikes. But Project 99 can change the size of the spikes and eventually create something like a “spike forest” to trap her. If 99 lands even one hit, Asuna loses her ability to ignore damage, making injuries that she would normally survive much more dangerous.

Project 99’s spikes can "erupt inside opponents and burst outward, bypassing durability." Tabbie is an extremely advanced AI who can restore any damage to Project 99’s willpower (soul too). Project 99 basically has an endless supply of fighting spirit. While Asuna has to push herself to keep going, Tabbie can reset 99’s mental and emotional state fatigue, keeping them at full efficiency while Asuna eventually gets worn out.
To what degree? That's also not guaranteed to work especially if it takes too long. As I mentioned earlier it would be trivial for Asuna to make this strategy to backfire on him. If his line of sight is broken, it gives her a huge opportunity to break away and give herself an advantage. They both have IA, but it won't really help 99 if Asuna tries to CQC him, in which case he's definitely getting cooked going off the feats I see for him. They don't seem very comparable in terms of actual skill. How much can 99 spam these spikes, anyway?

What would stop Asuna from going after Tabbie if she's really posing a problem? It also doesn't sound like a completely foolproof solution either, it's said to take time to charge and there is also absolutely no mention of Tabbie being able to heal spiritual damage on the page.

I doubt Asuna's just going to gas out, she can already do that for hours on end off-screen. I feel like that's plenty of time to land a killing blow
 
To what degree? That's also not guaranteed to work especially if it takes too long. As I mentioned earlier it would be trivial for Asuna to make this strategy to backfire on him. If his line of sight is broken, it gives her a huge opportunity to break away and give herself an advantage. They both have IA, but it won't really help 99 if Asuna tries to CQC him, in which case he's definitely getting cooked going off the feats I see for him. They don't seem very comparable in terms of actual skill. How much can 99 spam these spikes, anyway?

What would stop Asuna from going after Tabbie if she's really posing a problem? It also doesn't sound like a completely foolproof solution either, it's said to take time to charge and there is also absolutely no mention of Tabbie being able to heal spiritual damage on the page.
You’re right, it says willpower only. But chapter 2 says:

"Project 99 was injured from the last fight, so Tabbie restores their soul to help them regain their confidence."
I doubt Asuna's just going to gas out, she can already do that for hours on end off-screen. I feel like that's plenty of time to land a killing blow
Project 99’s spikes are made of bone, so Asuna’s Prominence Burst, which reaches about 3,490°C, would be hot enough to vaporize them. Since 99 usually creates around 200–240 spikes, Asuna could clear a path through them or even use the smoke from the vaporized bone as cover. If Tabbie can fully restore 99’s soul and willpower, then would Asuna lose her unblockable advantage. Would Asuna’s skill help her bypass Durability Negation?
 
You’re right, it says willpower only. But chapter 2 says:

"Project 99 was injured from the last fight, so Tabbie restores their soul to help them regain their confidence."
Chapter 2 isn't out though...? Where does this info come from?
 
You’re right, it says willpower only. But chapter 2 says:

"Project 99 was injured from the last fight, so Tabbie restores their soul to help them regain their confidence."

Project 99’s spikes are made of bone, so Asuna’s Prominence Burst, which reaches about 3,490°C, would be hot enough to vaporize them. Since 99 usually creates around 200–240 spikes, Asuna could clear a path through them or even use the smoke from the vaporized bone as cover. If Tabbie can fully restore 99’s soul and willpower, then would Asuna lose her unblockable advantage. Would Asuna’s skill help her bypass Durability Negation?
Tbh I’m a little bit skeptical about what that line actually means. If Tabbie has to restore his literal soul, shouldn't he be dead already? Why does it need to be restored in the first place? I don't see anything on the wiki that mentions the enemies in his verse being capable of attacking or affecting something like that. But either way, even if Tabbie can do this multiple times, Asuna should be very capable of putting her down and getting rid of that ability.

Also how did you get that scan? Chapter 2 isn't public rn

Well yeah, I went over that a bit ago, 99 won't be able to surprise her that way unless he can just spawn them inside her from anywhere in his range, which isn't explicitly said. Asuna also doesn't have to go loud, creating a smokescreen isn't her only option to get more room to set things up.
 
Tbh I’m a little bit skeptical about what that line actually means. If Tabbie has to restore his literal soul, shouldn't he be dead already? Why does it need to be restored in the first place? I don't see anything on the wiki that mentions the enemies in his verse being capable of attacking or affecting something like that. But either way, even if Tabbie can do this multiple times, Asuna should be very capable of putting her down and getting rid of that ability.

Also how did you get that scan? Chapter 2 isn't public rn

Well yeah, I went over that a bit ago, 99 won't be able to surprise her that way unless he can just spawn them inside her from anywhere in his range, which isn't explicitly said. Asuna also doesn't have to go loud, creating a smokescreen isn't her only option to get more room to set things up.
Hm. In that case, I’ll vote Asuna ftw

Probably the most fun matchup I did
 
btw i'm voting for project 99 because i don't see how asuna is supposed to avoid spikes just suddenly erupting below her feet and then blowing her apart from the inside out lol

especially because they are literally hypersonic on the page. under speed equalized that means they are 3.6x faster than Asuna's combat speed
 
btw i'm voting for project 99 because i don't see how asuna is supposed to avoid spikes just suddenly erupting below her feet and then blowing her apart from the inside out lol

especially because they are literally hypersonic on the page. under speed equalized that means they are 3.6x faster than Asuna's combat speed
Hm, yes…

In that case, I vote Project 99
 
btw i'm voting for project 99 because i don't see how asuna is supposed to avoid spikes just suddenly erupting below her feet and then blowing her apart from the inside out lol

especially because they are literally hypersonic on the page. under speed equalized that means they are 3.6x faster than Asuna's combat speed
Also thanks for voting
 
btw i'm voting for project 99 because i don't see how asuna is supposed to avoid spikes just suddenly erupting below her feet and then blowing her apart from the inside out lol

especially because they are literally hypersonic on the page. under speed equalized that means they are 3.6x faster than Asuna's combat speed
Oh, I went over that a bit ago. 99 won’t be able to catch her off guard like that cause IA, hasn’t fought anyone with that before. If it’s not obvious my votes staying on Asuna
 
Oh, I went over that a bit ago. 99 won’t be able to catch her off guard like that cause IA, hasn’t fought anyone with that before. If it’s not obvious my votes staying on Asuna
IA doesn't prevent her from getting hit by attacks which are 3.6x faster than her and sprout out to a distance that can encompass buildings from hundreds of meters away. Alongside that, Project 99 also literally having IA so this is just a non-point.

Project 99 also has a big range advantage and Asuna pretty much just can't ever get close to them.

Its literally impossible for Asuna to do anything with instinctive action, because the projectiles and the eruption of spikes will move faster than she could avoid them even if she moved first.

And if she gets hit by even one spike it will just blow her up from the inside out.
 
IA doesn't prevent her from getting hit by attacks which are 3.6x faster than her and sprout out to a distance that can encompass buildings from hundreds of meters away. Alongside that, Project 99 also literally having IA so this is just a non-point.

Project 99 also has a big range advantage and Asuna pretty much just can't ever get close to them.

Its literally impossible for Asuna to do anything with instinctive action, because the projectiles and the eruption of spikes will move faster than she could avoid them even if she moved first.

And if she gets hit by even one spike it will just blow her up from the inside out.
I wasn’t talking about IA as an offensive thing, lol. 3.6x is a lot on paper, sure, but it’s not nearly as big of a factor with that especially when your opponent doesn’t have a way to stop that. The only thing IA helps 99 with at all is defensive stuff. It’s not an auto-counter to someone else’s. If Asuna has even half a second to move, that’s plenty of time to do something about it at their speeds.

It literally says that it’s pretty much only used in “extreme danger or focus”, so it’s not like 99 is just going to spam it and keep her from getting close.

I have very little reason to believe this will go any different personally
 
Also, by this logic, wouldn’t this basically be a stomp if it’s not very hard for 99 to win?? I didn’t search for matchups just to have it end like this 🫠
 
"3.6x" is a lot on paper and in practice because you've given no actual way for Asuna to defend it. Instinctive action isn't a speed amp. When she starts moving away, the spikes will still be moving towards her at 3.6x times her speed. And it says on Project 99's page that they can continue to grow until they are the size of buildings. And that he can make hundreds of them at a time. And they can just spawn from underneath her feet?

Like, lol, i think it's seriously disingenuous to not engage with such a massive advantage.
 
Also, by this logic, wouldn’t this basically be a stomp if it’s not very hard for 99 to win?? I didn’t search for matchups just to have it end like this 🫠
“A stomp is when one character is so much stronger that the other has 0% chance of winning” (like a Hydrogen Bomb vs. Coughing Baby). This isn't a stomp because Asuna can win if she lands a Soul Strike or a Prominence Burst early, Project 99’s IA and Spikes would help counter this, eventually erupting inside of her

Idk
 
"3.6x" is a lot on paper and in practice because you've given no actual way for Asuna to defend it. Instinctive action isn't a speed amp. When she starts moving away, the spikes will still be moving towards her at 3.6x times her speed. And it says on Project 99's page that they can continue to grow until they are the size of buildings. And that he can make hundreds of them at a time. And they can just spawn from underneath her feet?

Like, lol, i think it's seriously disingenuous to not engage with such a massive advantage.
Bruh, I have though, I never said IA was a speed amp, in this case it’s just extra time to react. We went over how making this many could easily backfire on him before as well. It’s just my opinion man, I have not ignored this at all lol. In fact, this has been the main talking point of the thread

“A stomp is when one character is so much stronger that the other has 0% chance of winning” (like a Hydrogen Bomb vs. Coughing Baby). This isn't a stomp because Asuna can win if she lands a Soul Strike or a Prominence Burst early, Project 99’s IA and Spikes would help counter this, eventually erupting inside of her

Idk
Neither of these are starting moves for her. What I’m saying if this goes the way that phoenks thinks it will then Asuna literally can’t use any of those wincons at all
 
Bruh, I have though, I never said IA was a speed amp, in this case it’s just extra time to react. We went over how making this many could easily backfire on him before as well. It’s just my opinion man, I have not ignored this at all lol. In fact, this has been the main talking point of the thread
If it isn't a speed amp then there is zero way she's avoiding hundreds of attacks that move 3.6x faster than her coming out from directly under the ground which can each grow to be larger than a building.

I genuinely feel like you are disregarding what is undeniably a massive advantage simply for the sake of voting for your own character...
 
If it isn't a speed amp then there is zero way she's avoiding hundreds of attacks that move 3.6x faster than her coming out from directly under the ground which can each grow to be larger than a building.

I genuinely feel like you are disregarding what is undeniably a massive advantage simply for the sake of voting for your own character...
Well I am not at all trying to force my opinion on you, in my eyes I just really don’t see why moving even half a second in advance wouldn’t get her out of that. Especially with the fact it’s not a spammable move at all.

Again we have literally been talking about this one attack the entire thread, and I’d say I’m providing perfectly reasonable ways to deal with it. I am absolutely not ignoring this in any way 🙈 It’s useful yeah, but it’s far from impossible to handle imo

I think this is just a case of agree to disagree man
 
Well I am not at all trying to force my opinion on you, in my eyes I just really don’t see why moving even half a second in advance wouldn’t get her out of that. Especially with the fact it’s not a spammable move at all.

Again we have literally been talking about this one attack the entire thread, and I’d say I’m providing perfectly reasonable ways to deal with it. I am absolutely not ignoring this in any way 🙈 It’s useful yeah, but it’s far from impossible to handle imo

I think this is just a case of agree to disagree man
Let's do the math.

In 0.5 seconds, Asuna can move a maximum of 260~ meters due to being equalized down to Mach 1.6. In the same timeframe, an attack from Project 99 can move 1000 meters. Even with a 1.5 second headstart, she still does not cover as much distance as Project 99's attacks do in a third of the timeframe.

Which can be hundreds of building sized spikes that come from multiple different locations at once.

Bootleg spidey-sense, which doesn't even provide any amp to her reaction speed (or allow her to predict the future), is not going to magically allow Asuna to dodge all of that. User also mentioned they could straight up create a whole environment of attacks around her. Attacks that would share the same speed advantage.

You can't just "agree to disagree" your way out of that.
 
the will to evolve... you say
She needs the will of flying or smth
Let's do the math.

In 0.5 seconds, Asuna can move a maximum of 260~ meters due to being equalized down to Mach 1.6. In the same timeframe, an attack from Project 99 can move 1000 meters. Even with a 1.5 second headstart, she still does not cover as much distance as Project 99's attacks do in a third of the timeframe.

Which can be hundreds of building sized spikes that come from multiple different locations at once.

Bootleg spidey-sense, which doesn't even provide any amp to her reaction speed (or allow her to predict the future), is not going to magically allow Asuna to dodge all of that. User also mentioned they could straight up create a whole environment of attacks around her. Attacks that would share the same speed advantage.

You can't just "agree to disagree" your way out of that.
She's cooked. Keeping it 99 FRA
 
Counted… grace
It’s 3-1

Let's do the math.

In 0.5 seconds, Asuna can move a maximum of 260~ meters due to being equalized down to Mach 1.6. In the same timeframe, an attack from Project 99 can move 1000 meters. Even with a 1.5 second headstart, she still does not cover as much distance as Project 99's attacks do in a third of the timeframe.

Which can be hundreds of building sized spikes that come from multiple different locations at once.

Bootleg spidey-sense, which doesn't even provide any amp to her reaction speed (or allow her to predict the future), is not going to magically allow Asuna to dodge all of that. User also mentioned they could straight up create a whole environment of attacks around her. Attacks that would share the same speed advantage.

You can't just "agree to disagree" your way out of that.
The max range hundreds of metres, not 1,000. I think my explanation is perfectly reasonable but you do you man lol
 
Let's do the math.

In 0.5 seconds, Asuna can move a maximum of 260~ meters due to being equalized down to Mach 1.6. In the same timeframe, an attack from Project 99 can move 1000 meters. Even with a 1.5 second headstart, she still does not cover as much distance as Project 99's attacks do in a third of the timeframe.

Which can be hundreds of building sized spikes that come from multiple different locations at once.

Bootleg spidey-sense, which doesn't even provide any amp to her reaction speed (or allow her to predict the future), is not going to magically allow Asuna to dodge all of that. User also mentioned they could straight up create a whole environment of attacks around her. Attacks that would share the same speed advantage.

You can't just "agree to disagree" your way out of that.
99 FRA, but I don't think with equal speed his spikes should be much faster
Well…
 
That is definitely not big enough of a range then and should also really be specified on the page I think. Having non-ambiguous values is more important than you'd think

Tbh I think I'm just not gonna engage with this thread anymore, I really feel like everything I say is being very undermined or treated as objectively false and nobody seems to be concerned about how this perception of how this fight would go would make this a stomp even after I've asked about this multiple times. Not exactly what I'd call a fun debate
 
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