- 5,475
- 6,582
Nether, stop embarrassing yourself
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
NIHILITY Meets DEATH ! ISIS REMNANT vs Emanator of Nihility ACHERON !!! (11-1-3)
- Thread starter BoastJr
- Start date
- Status
- 5,366
- 2,829
That doesn't make Isis resist all of Acheron's hax and itd be inconclusive at best
- 5,366
- 2,829
Get off lmfao you don't know jackshit at all
- 2,787
- 3,385
So essentially you can't prove how she interacts with CM1 and drawing conclusion somehow she resists CM1 cuz your conclusions????????
Bro can you stop making new analogy of Metaphysical aspects and stop NLFing from nothing?
Mbpoops
He/Him- 8,375
- 7,526
isis has layers bruh
Astral_Trinity439
He/Him- 4,356
- 6,337
Isis cuz white hair>>
- 2,787
- 3,385
NEP for reading again. You are quoting something that you dont even understand.
VoidGoji
They/Them- 4,598
- 1,383
Dr. MEI isn't Mei.
- 5,475
- 6,582
"By your logic, Acheron can't do anything to Isis because a concept permeates Isis's entire being and Acheron can't affect those"
- 5,366
- 2,829
What? HOW DID YOU INTERPRET IT LIKE THIS. I MEANT THE MATCH AT BEST WOULD BE DEEMED INCONCLUSIVE THE SAME WAY ISIS HAS ZERO COUNTERS AGAINST IM2
Put it like this, it wouldn't make sense for Kratos to be able to resist plot hax and Bugs being unable to interact with Kratos just because Kratos is conceptual. The same way applies here, it wouldn't make sense for Isis to resist IM2 just because Acheron is incapable of interacting with Isis CM1
What I meant to say is that both parties have no wincons of their own, it's either Acheron stomps, inconclusive or Isis stomps. IT'S THIS SIMPLE
- 5,475
- 6,582
I told him on cord
he promised not to larp again
- 2,787
- 3,385
Kratos doesn't even have AE1 what are you about even
- 5,366
- 2,829
Which is why the logic is faulty, because it would imply that Kratos here in another scenario had Resistance to plot just because Bugs is unable to interact with concept
It's like assuming Isis resists IM2 on the basis just because Acheron is incapable of interacting with Isis CM1
- 5,475
- 6,582
How is a universal concept comprised of bits of information
- 5,366
- 2,829
Riiight so then why is Bugs unable to harm Kratos because apparently Bugs required interacting to Kratos concept first?
It's because AE1 and conceptual invulnerability isn't really that different, and Kratos has conceptual invulnerability. Which if you ask me, Bugs should've won the matchup because of Plot Manipulation but the match was deemed inconclusive anyway because Bugs can't interact with concept and Kratos can't resist PM
- 2,787
- 3,385
@SuperNova55555 how you deal with people who has NEP for reading bro
Mbpoops
He/Him- 8,375
- 7,526
nep1 interaction all aspects
Astral_Trinity439
He/Him- 4,356
- 6,337
Jokes aside, I don't see how Mei copes with Isis's AE on CM1. Sure she has all that info interaction going on but against Isis it's like trying to use a potato peeler on space itself.
So voting for Isis
So voting for Isis
- 2,787
- 3,385
actually keep going, i cant stop laughing by how this things even correlate
- 5,366
- 2,829
I never said this btw, I just said that it would be NLF for Isis to resist IM2 just based on Acheron being incapable of interacting with concept, which is the same way as why Kratos resisting PM just because Bugs is incapable of interacting with concept based stuff at all is also NLF and the match is hence deemed inconclusive
- 5,475
- 6,582
Only person to qualify for NEP Type 1【Mind】
- 2,787
- 3,385
Because Nether somehow thinks Invulnerability to something is AE1
- 338
- 485
Isis should have info 2 manip and resist with her entire existence being a WC authority on her profile.
vsbattles.com
Boast is just too lazy.
Yuusha Shoukan Info Type 2 Update (Feat Anos) (ACCEPTED)
Info Manipulation type 2 update Okay so, this has been bugging me for a while now. The current logic of info type 2 is [Erased the record of the summoned heroes existences, including Shigenobu whose existence in Earth was erased from the start. This not only affect Aoi's memory but also quite...
- 5,366
- 2,829
No need, if Isis wincon is like this then it's a complete stomp for Acheron since she has no wincons at all, and if you'd agree with my reasoning on why Acheron would win: it's also the same because Isis doesn't have their own wincon against that, or its inconclusive
It's either a stomp which couldn't be added, or it's inconclusive. That's it.
- 2,787
- 3,385
Voting for Isis based on this
- 5,366
- 2,829
Alright then tell me why does Bugs have to interact with Kratos conceptual invulnerability first to be able to harm him instead of just using Plot Manipulation since the invulnerability only covers concept based things?
Thats like the whole ass reason the matchup was deemed inconclusive over there LMFAO
- 1,737
- 1,458
I vote waifu Isis due to reasons above
ExcelsisBerny
She/Her- 1,663
- 2,939
Isis FRA
- 1,309
- 305
Incon FRA
Mbpoops
He/Him- 8,375
- 7,526
stop bringing up other fights bruh
- 5,366
- 2,829
Because using @Hecky2222's logic, somehow Isis' AE1 to concept type 1 grants Isis resistances to all of Acheron's ability instead of debating that Isis has resistance to Acheron's ability through other means. It's as faulty as Bugs having to interact with Kratos conceptual invul just because Kratos in this scenario, his being is permeated by concepts the same way as Isis, in which the match is deemed inconclusive in that scenario
Dont know why are we voting on something in which the other party has zero wincons at all, inconclusive is if both wincons are valid and the matchup can only be added if A's wincon is slightly better than B and vice versa not like A's wincon > B's wincon completely (stomp)
- 5,366
- 2,829
Astral_Trinity439
He/Him- 4,356
- 6,337
I believe your reasoning is that; there's no reason for her CM1 to resist info type 2?
It's pretty much like, just because you can interact with info of an apple or physical thing doesn't mean you can do the same with Type 1 concepts.
Other than that, if her Void (manipulation) isn't NEP on concept type 1, it just can't interact with concept type 1 either. We don't assume something NEP is so on all aspects by default. That's why when listing NEP aspects 2, we specify the type of said aspect if it has multiple; in Mei's case it's Aspect 2/Concepts (Type 2)
- 5,366
- 2,829
Literally the only thing differentiating conceptual invul and AE1 to concept is that the former had their entire being permeated by it, the latter had their entire being, well they're concepts themselves. There's arbitrarily zero difference other than you requiring feats to be able to interact with these, which is to say the main reason it was deemed inconclusive instead. Because in this scenario, both parties actually have their own wincons. But what Isis supporters argued? They deadass just said Acheron can't interact with Isis and somehow Isis had resistance to all of Acheron's abilities through different means, there's virtually ZERO WINCONS
- 5,366
- 2,829
Yeah which is why it's inconclusive, because if not then it's a stomp as Acheron virtually has zero wincons as Isis resists all of Acheron's hax through diff means, but if you followed my reasoning on why Acheron would win, Isis has zero wincons too. There's no voting because it's either a stomp or inconclusive
- Status
Similar threads
