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UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD

I am not referencing Chara's slash. I am referring to this statement regarding Chara's death. Chara not being in the world only makes sense if the world was the present. A 4D/5D world implies that Chara was removed from the past and future, which is completely unfounded.
Again, you imply that you have to nonexistent across time by default in order to erase a cosmology across time, which cannot be the case unless you want silly things like Zeno being Tier 3 at best.

Plus their profile do have NEP on Space-Time aspect and BDE 1, so what's even the point?
 
Again, you imply that you have to nonexistent across time by default in order to erase a cosmology across time, which cannot be the case unless you want silly things like Zeno being Tier 3 at best.
Please show the premises that leads to this implication because that's unrelated to my argument.

Plus their profile do have NEP on Space-Time aspect and BDE 1, so what's even the point?
No reason to assume that Flowey is referring to this. A past version of Chara should exist in the cosmology, but scaling the world to the cosmology contradicts this.
 
Please show the premises that leads to this implication because that's unrelated to my argument.
You're essentially saying that characters who destroy space-time on a cosmological level don't make sense because they'd destroy their past selves as well.
No reason to assume that Flowey is referring to this. A past version of Chara should exist in the cosmology, but scaling the world to the cosmology contradicts this.
Have you considered that this is fiction, and it doesn't care? Chara literally erased the game, which includes all the timelines we've generated in, which is also included in their dialogue.

We're not going to downgrade the metafictional display of the reality as a whole to just a 3D concept despite it clearly including everything in the Undertale reality just because of a tiny detail like this lol.
 
Frankly, I don't care about what "world" means in the context of Chara destroying "the world," but thinking Flowey is referring to anything but love and Chara no longer being in his life in that context is downright hilarious. Obviously, love still exists in "the world" if we're taking it to mean the cosmology, or even just the planet, but Flowey no longer has access to love or Chara, which is very obviously what he means.
 
Actually why am I even genuinely bothering in a serious convo about this when the guy doesn't even grasp how the wiki works on this stuff, gotta wait for an actual CRT attempt from them coz this will bring in nowhere.
 
It also makes no sense for the save file to record time after the timeline was erased. Either Frisk restored the timeline immediately after hyper goner, or the hyper goner never destroyed the timeline to begin with. I dont see an issue with the latter given we've dismissed similar hyperboles before. A hypertimeline should have been considered last.


Omega flowey is another issue. Even if we accept a timeline destruction feat, it should be considered environmental destruction as he still needs Frisk's soul to kill everyone. (Implying everyone is still alive after timeline destruction) L2-C Asriel is fine though.

I am not referencing Chara's slash. I am referring to this statement regarding Chara's death. Chara not being in the world only makes sense if the world was the present. A 4D/5D world implies that Chara was removed from the past and future, which is completely unfounded.
Ik this is going no where but assuming Frisk immediately restored it or it never happened when we see the nothing void right after this fight when Asriel became his kid form again you would be ignoring the statement and this detail and the Japanese translation also backing this up just to reach this conclusion
 
Possibly tier 2 is better
I'll be looking forward to the downgrade thread. Maybe then you will get back your infinite speed after I downgraded you to immobile
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Possibly tier 2 is better
This is the one thing you won't be able to take down I think.

Because people here are REALLY fond of their interpretation of timelines, they almost treat it like canon. But truth be told, I'm in contact with some very smart people, so... Uh, yeah, this will be axed regardless.
 
is this a possible immeasurable speed upgrade for godlycharmander? blud's been stuck in subsonic purgatory for a decade 🥀
I'm too focused on Chapter 5. Once we get these revision going and the entire verse updated, I'll definitely ask for things to speed up.

I'm also planning to remove... Other... Questionable L1-C ratings... (Friendship is not that magic, DAMN)
 
Just a little aside: I still find it so bizarre people can extrapolate all of this from the little dialogue we have about it.
It's 99% personal interpretation, and one that isn't even consistent when analyzing both canonical texts (Eng and JP)

This is literally

Undertale

Undertale, Japan.

Both should follow the same vision, so their interpretation should reveal the same thing.

If English UT says: "This world will be destroy"
And JP UT says: "This reality is at an end",

It's reasonable to say that the interpretation of "world" is also meant to be reality, and since that's a plausible reading, we made them consistent with each other. That doesn't happen in our current cosmology despite considering JP just as canon as ENG.
 
This is the one thing you won't be able to take down I think.
Meh, we'll see

What's 2 more years?
I can't let 2 years pass, the God tiers scaling and everything about sans is too bad to be kept and the Deltarune Slop scaling is getting worse by the day and I fear the connection between verses happening in some way and UT's scaling turning worse than it already is ❤️‍🩹
 
I can't let 2 years pass, the God tiers scaling and everything about sans is too bad to be kept and the Deltarune Slop scaling is getting worse by the day and I fear the connection between verses happening in some way and UT's scaling turning worse than it already is ❤️‍🩹
Sure! Wishing you the best ! I won't forget how you treated Error.
 
Also what are you talking about, I think the thing about me scaling myself as a wiki character was an inside joke 😭✌️

I'm already immeasurable, have precognition and 1-A AP!
I thought you got downgraded to Low 1-A because you didn't meet the new 1-A standards what's up with that
 
Actually why am I even genuinely bothering in a serious convo about this when the guy doesn't even grasp how the wiki works on this stuff, gotta wait for an actual CRT attempt from them coz this will bring in nowhere.
Yeah a CRT to downgrade a sans statement sounds pretty reasonable. I'm sure nobody would make 4 blogs worth of arguments to try to defend it.
 
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