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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Nonynho
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risky and will definitely prioritize getting jackpot over using ut
infinite stamina is cool but that only lasts for as long as he can maintain jackpot
ganesha likely bypasses immortality but we aren't sure
Nonynho
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Subsequent jackpot(s) are not unimaginable for Hakari and sustaining 8 minutes and 22 seconds against Hakari is not easy, and we shouldn't forget that he's not a pushover or stupid while not in Jackpot
let's presume it doesn't?
Then Hakari seeing how skilled he is (if he doesn't just know since Kenjaku's a famous mf) just has to defend his neck/head area, which Kenjaku sees very early that is the only area where he could end him by wrecking, since he'll notice very shortly that no other hits matter much
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more than likely, actually, hakari does have "INCREDIBLE LUCK!!!" after all
true but he admitted he couldn't beat uraume, someone weaker than kenjaku
okay, i don't like assumptions anyway
kenjaku has prior knowledge on culling game players with the exception of yuki since her technique was kept as a secret by jujutsu high
do u remember how he killed hazenoki?
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kenjaku has a curse that he used to block hazenokis brain from healing his body
this would immobilize and kill hakari
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Zabazab
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This is a myth that has been sparked by the Hakari agenda. Hakari's physicals are not stated to be particularly exceptional. Yuji eats Hakari's CE-infused punches without even defending and gets back up. Charles of all people tears through Hakari like he's made of tissue paper. Kashimo severely injured Hakari numerous times with simple strikes. Uraume was blasting holes through Hakari.
His actual wincon against competent sorcerers (usually 1st Grade and above) is outlasting his opponent, by a combination of his painful CE trait and his Jackpot's automatic RCT. This strategy isn't usually very good though, and with luck he tends to, at most, stalemate. The other 3 Heavy Hitters kick his ass, for instance. I wouldn't even put him in the top 10 because of how few opponents he can actually defeat even if there are many he can fight.
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Insane Yuta glaze. He gets cooked with or without Hanas or anyone technique. He ain't beating even weakened Kenny without sneak attack
EldemadeDityjon
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Stick to Rezero
EldemadeDityjon
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i didn't say otherwise, im mainly saying hakari getting torn apart by someone like charles isn't an anti feat
i don't have to make takes because my fav proved his place at the top 3 spot
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Kenjaku would instantly die to Jacob's Ladder because of his technique being extinguished, making him unable to move or use jujutsu. There is no way for Kenjaku to counter this. Btw the members of jujutsu tech who could beat Kenjaku by sneaking him are Maki and Hana.
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EldemadeDityjon
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Headcanon
Another headcanon. It's literally mentioned Maki would have failed. Yuta needed Todo's help and it was still close
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was talking about yuta and kenjaku (maho victims)
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This is not an argument. "You came to a conclusion on a hypothetical scenario based on information in the manga" that's what power scaling is. It's also headcanon to say Jacob's Ladder wouldn't kill Kenjaku, you realize that, don't you? Don't post such substanceless messages, especially if you're replying to me. It's bothersome.
You seem to be thinking I'm specifically referring to the situation they were in during the Shinjuku Showdown arc in the manga. I never said that. It's also never said Maki would fail, just that it was too risky without Boogie Woogie as support, or Rika to clean up the berserk Cursed Spirits.
And Yuta needed Boogie Woogie because, again, the specific situation where Yuta had to conserve both 5 Minute Mode and Authentic Mutual Love, meaning Yuta was required to kill Kenjaku without Copy. If he could use Copy freely, Jacob's Ladder would end the fight instantly due to Kenjaku losing control of Geto's body and being incapable of activating Cursed Spirit Manipulation.
EldemadeDityjon
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Brother, Kenny isn't affected by CT Burnout or by DA being applied to his own body, which is basically power nullification similar to JL. Yeah, it's headcanon that JL works on his brain's CT. He probably has some Binding Vow or some barrier stuff which that protects him from being affected by the CT's power nullifying mechanism, either way Angel technique doesn't null brain itself it only affects the outer layer of the body so far that's. If it was able to target inner stuff Sukuna would have died since it would have erased the cursed objects completely which was not the case. It only damaged outer layers of his body. If you actually read JJK rather than watching reels, you probably would've known that.
It doesn't matter. Your point was that Maki could sneak up on Kenny, which is nearly impossible. Even a weakened Kenny had enough speed to react to and almost defend himself against Yuta. If it weren't for Todo, Yuta wouldn't have landed that attack.
In a normal scenario, Maki isn't sneaking up on anything. Kenny would easily detect the SSK before she could get close enough to land a sneak attack on him.
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If it was easy to kill Kenny with JL they would have sent angel lol she has enough range to erase cursed spirits too. They specially needed to sneak him to kill. Idk how anyone can think JL will one shot Kenny when narratively it's made it clear he has back up for CT powernull stuff and Angel never once indicated she can one shot Kenny with JL. They needed to plan different things to sneak him.
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The line you've drawn between these effects is false. Burnout and Domain Amplification are not in any way comparable to Technique Extinguishment, let alone the higher output of Jacob's Ladder. Burnout doesn't even neutralize your cursed technique, it just becomes ridiculously difficult to use. And Domain Amplification "neutralizes" cursed techniques by allowing the opposing cursed technique to flow into the """space""" where the sure-hit technique would normally be.
This is not at all similar to the three anti-curse curses in JJK (BR, ISoH, JL).
My previous argument about these not being the same as technique nullification applies here. And beyond that, Technique Extinguishment nullifies all jujutsu, the likes of barrier techniques included.
The only reason Jacob's Ladder harms Incarnations is because its effect breaks down the cursed object inside them, and Sukuna was gonna die if not for his Oscar skills and Yuta turning off the technique to save Megumi respectively. Also, all jujutsu ultimately stems from the brain, so obviously Technique Extinguishment is working on it. I hope the irony of you so confidently accusing me of not reading isn't lost on you.
It does matter, because the looming "We gotta jump Sukuna" is a MASSIVE deal that influences every decision. And speed does not really matter for a sneak attack, you won't react to something you can't sense coming. SSK is only needed for a fight, not a sneak.
Are three incredibly-short paragraphs so awe-inspiring you think I'd need a chatbot to manage it?Are you using chatgpt or something to reply?
Hana was not to participate in combat due to being disabled and incapable of cursed energy reinforcement, she was only to act a final card to be played in a worst-case scenario if even the Yu-jo plan failed, to try and save Megumi (Hana's love)/destroy Sukuna (Angel's nemesis).
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I never said anything about DA allowing an opponent's technique to flow into its space. I'm talking about DA preventing the user from using their own CT, which has nothing to do with what you're saying.
Besides, it was never shown, implied, or assumed anywhere in the series that JL can outright end Kenny. The only point you might be right about is CT burnout.
She can only nullify what is within her scope, not something beyond it. She only nullifies barriers that she can directly access; she wasn't nullifying the entire Culling Game.
All she did was create holes in the barriers and move around the other colonies through those openings.
It normally has burning effects. It isn't nullifying cursed objects when they're merged with other people.
Besides, Kenny isn't even a reincarnated sorcerer. He has an active CT that allows him to replace and control Geto's body. JL works in a similar way to DA: when DA is active, users can't use their CTs, and when JL is active, opponents can't use their CTs either.
Once they escape the light, they can immediately resume using their techniques. It isn't nullifying the brain itself. The light only nullifies what it can directly touch.
So, at best, it temporarily prevents the external use of a CT rather than permanently nullifying its source.
Speed does matter, and besides, non-CE weapons aren't doing anything to Kenny. She isn't physically one-shotting him either.
She definitely needs the SSK to kill any heavy-hitter-level opponent.
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You say JL can instantly kills Kenny, but if that were the case, CE reinforcement wouldn't matter since Kenny would be cooked instantly.
She also has a ranged attack with JL, so the cursed spirits wouldn't have escaped either. Again, that doesn't require CE reinforcement on herself.
Yuta was needed to deal with Sukuna, yet they still sent him to sneak up on Kenny rather than relying on your hypothetical scenario of JL working on Kenny, which was never implied or assumed anywhere in the series.
As for Hana being the final card, that means nothing. She entered the fight at the end and had enough time, unlike Yuta, who was needed from the beginning to fight Sukuna.
Now you're just making up reasons for why Hana wasn't sent to kill Kenny. It's simple: her technique wasn't enough. That's all there is to it. There's no deeper motive here; you're just making things up.
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big raga turned himself into a walking ISoH fr
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Curse Naoya beating Toji or no ?
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holy headcanon
"his weakness is combo attacks" wrap it up, we have seen him adapt simultaneously to various phenomena in every single fight he has been in
sukuna: adapted to shrine and using cursed energy
yorozu: adapted to liquid metal and insects
gojo: adapted to infinity, blue, red and possibly black flash all at once
"his weakness is combo attacks" wrap it up, we have seen him adapt simultaneously to various phenomena in every single fight he has been in
sukuna: adapted to shrine and using cursed energy
yorozu: adapted to liquid metal and insects
gojo: adapted to infinity, blue, red and possibly black flash all at once
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