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  • Hey, I wanted to ask about Grandblue. Are there any 7D characters with smurf? And who's the strongest?
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    Nier is 7D likely 8D
    Otherworldly River and Legion Void are 7D but have low 1-A reach via Providence of Death

    Strongest probably is the Otherworlders and Boundary users

    Boundary users and Versusia are 8D so they are out
    Hello Jedi!

    I hope you are doing well and having a wonderful day

    I needed an expert's opinion on this crt and it did be really great if you could help me out

    need votes for tournament match both sides given arguments if you are willing to read
    Hi, thanks for trying to fix Kurumi’s reference earlier. However, that edit accidentally created a duplicated reference, so I corrected it. Since I’m currently maintaining the verse’s pages and their sources, I’ll handle the reference formatting to keep everything consistent.
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    Sure thing. I'm not very familiar with the verse, so when I didn't find any similar looking reference with search i just created a new one based on the reference name.

    since i was cleaning up all profiles with cite error
    Zenith_Enigma
    Zenith_Enigma
    Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining. The pages reuse several shared references across profiles, so creating a new one can sometimes create duplicates, which is why I corrected it. I appreciate you helping with the citation cleanup.
    Would you mind taking a look at these paragraphs and giving your thoughts on whether they grant any haxes (and maybe tiering stuff)? Especially the bolded one
    "ATAVISTIC ANTAGONIST, ANTIGONE WITH THE WIND: BROTHER AGAINST BROTHER IN ARMS, OTHER HARMS IRRELEVANT COLLATERAL. HOLY HOLY HOLY IS THE LORD. WAR IS ONTOLOGICAL, PEACE IS A FAILURE OF FREE WILL. MILLE VIAE DUCIMT HOMINES PER SAECULA SANGUINEM.

    DROWNING IN DENIAL, MAN SET SAIL IN SEARCH OF A PALINGENETIC SIMULACRUM OF ITHACA, AN EDEN AFORE THE ANTEDILUVIAN, UNTOUCHED BY THEIR OWN SIN-STAINED HANDS… BUT DEATH IS ARABLE, ALL GROWTH IS DEVOUREMENT - LIFE FEEDS ON LIFE FEEDS ON LIFE. IBID. IBID. HOLY HOLY HOLY IS THE LORD, AND THE REST IS VIOLENCE. NO. EVEN THIS IS NOT ΓΝΩΣΙΣ.

    THE SPATIO-TEMPORAL MIND CAN CONCEPTUALIZE REALITY ONLY IN BINARY. YES AND NO. IS AND IS NOT. THE EYE OF ΛΟΓΟΣ SEES ONLY A COLORLESS EXISTENCE IN A MONOPOTENTIAL WORLD, ITS ABSTRACTIONS A CHARADE OF SHADELESS ONES AND ZEROES REARRANGED AD NIHILUM. PHAEDONIC DIALOGUES, SIMPLE SHADOWS ON A CAVE WALL. NO. THERE ARE 39 STATES OF EXISTENCE. POSTFINITY. METATEMPORALITY. EXTRACAUSALITY. REASON AND DIALECTICS ARE AXES IN THE GARDEN OF REALITY, SHAVINGS OF SEMI-POTENTIAL SUFFERINGS.

    L U C I F E R , M Y L O V E . . .

    I SHALL GIFT TO YOU ALL THE AGONIES THAT CAN EXIST,
    AND MANY THAT CANNOT."

    ΓΝΩΣΙΣ: inquiry, knowledge or fame
    ΛΟΓΟΣ: reason, logic, order, or understanding
    Some translations for other wacky words and lines
    "PHAEDONIC DIALOGUES"
    "SIMPLE SHADOWS ON A CAVE WALL"
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    It should grant hax at the very least

    Tiering would need a bit more understanding of the cosmology, so I can't say

    But from what I gather. Transduality is one
    AE type 1,

    PHAEDONIC DIALOGUES, SIMPLE SHADOWS ON A CAVE WALL.
    This is like saying the dialogue about immortality of the soul and some such is just a limited reality, so it might mean something, but I'm not fully sure without it being properly explained. Since this can also mean that afterlife is not real or not what it seems because it could be a false reality etc

    THERE ARE 39 STATES OF EXISTENCE. POSTFINITY. METATEMPORALITY. EXTRACAUSALITY. REASON AND DIALECTICS ARE AXES IN THE GARDEN OF REALITY, SHAVINGS OF SEMI-POTENTIAL SUFFERINGS.

    I'm not sure about this. But if it is taken at face value
    causality for Extracausality since it's about reverse causality
    Reason and Dialectics i'm not sure
    Though the mention of 1 and 0 kinda implies information type 2 if the context of the verse leans into that

    That much I can say.
    Minor question regarding Beelzebub, and I guess Speakers and Gods in general. Since Bub's is the clone of Shalem, shouldn't he also scale to having Type 1 Concept Manip, and since all Speakers hold control over Providence, wouldn't all of them scale to not only having Type 1, but resisting it as well?
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    This one is tricky. Right now primal beast could potentially get type 1 concept as divine being nd all astrals are capable of creating a primal beast which says they in some capacity can manipulate those concept to give them a vessel or avatar to be able to fully exert the concept in reality as they want.

    2nd part. It was later revealed that Astrals most of the time are created with. Everything down to their very ending and failure predetermined by Astral God. And Astral God can indeed create anything conceivable. But the main issues that. lucilius felt he lacked power which drove him to build Lucifer as his power. Beelzebub we are not sure if he was also created lacking something so them scaling to the speakers do have basis but also has big counterargument. And as far as authority goes Astral God cannot simply overtures the Sky-God authority in Sky-realms providence and vice versa but astral as shown with how they created primal beast does imply they can do through them but this doesn't mean they can resist it since it is shown multiple times that some Primal beast can indeed also bypass Astrals
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    hey i was reading that
    hi, if your crt pass. where would rimuru scale at?
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    depends on CRT for scaling.
    Wedges are granted Low 1-A in their true form as a Divine Being.
    Veldora and Milim definitely became one, so they are Low 1-A as the Divine Being of Naming
    But their physical forms will remain 8D or 7D
    So, at best, Rimuru would get Eventual Low 1-A just like how Zamasu can be eventually low 1-C
    while Veldora receives it in his true form as Wedges/Divine Being.

    Rimuru's low 1-A is vague, so we are not sure what abilities would scale to low 1-A
    But Ultimate Skill might be able to scale
    Yo im willing to calc these for you if you haven’t gotten to it yet or anyone else has either. Just know might be a bit(2 weeks) before i finish due ti other stuff
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    They are surprisingly close in terms of tier. I guess it is pretty consistent at varying levels.
    Thanks again, I will ask a friend in calc group to evaluate.

    I'm surprised the Meteor feat somehow has higher calc than the Landing Castle Drop. but I guess the Meteor drop did drop a whole lot of them
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    Thanks again for the calc.
    I'm now working on creating the profile and the verse page. There are other things that could use some calc. I will request them some other time
    Rynizenz
    Rynizenz
    Alright Hope this goes well for you ❤️
    yo could you give a comment here?Thanks you in advance!
    Are you considering work on Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken x Granblue Fantasy collaboration profiles?
    I remember you said you would do this, but I wanted to ask you about the possibility that you may have given up or not found the time or motivation.
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    yeah I may have forgotten to add in Diablo despite adding the description

    I just finished writing Rimuru's NA/T and added more abilities based on those.

    Rimuru and Diablo can be posted now. I will post Veldora later once I finish his NA/T
    CodeCCLL
    CodeCCLL
    If you post their profiles, post them here too, for I will add them to the crossverses section of the verse. Also I will add article templates to them when I have free time.
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    Idk how to do the articles linking to other version of profiles so you can go ahead and edit it

    Hey Jedi. Do you believe manipulating a principle qualifies for CM?
    Ar1216789
    Ar1216789
    Is it fine if I send you the context?
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    I've seen the QnA. but i haven't got much time to fully evaluate it. I'll add it to my alerts
    Ar1216789
    Ar1216789
    Uh, well, here it is. If you don't wanna go back & look for the QnA.
    Behold! You are standing in the presence of the Greater Will that weaves the fabric of this world. Tell me...What brings you, Cookies, to life? The answer is simple: powder imbued with pure Life. Substance that animated many creatures throughout this land. But who could have known...Who could have known that this very energy is, in fact, what fuels this world, allowing it to exist. To keep the mechanism of this world in perfect equilibrium, a complex of fundamental principles was created by Nature itself. Guardians where chosen to maintain this order, I am one of these Guardians..

    Guardians Story:
    With every sweep of her staff, creatures draw their final breaths, and with every frosty step, the frigid air snuffs out the last traces of warmth. The harbinger of ice arrives with the twilight. Now that the principles she once guarded have withered away, and crystal-clear ice has faded to a pale, lifeless white, she is no longer the one who nurtures life but the herald of its end. As the sun disappears below the horizon, a bleak night falls upon the land, halting the cycle of nature. The fate of these lands will meet its end when this eternal winter ceases—if it ever does.
    Hello @theGreatJedi are you knowledgeable with the definition of foundation of reality? :)
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    I don't understand what you mean by release the reality from one spacetime to another.

    If the feat is achieve by manipulating something but only results to dimensional travel
    Then it is just dimensional travel unless otherwise explained further
    InkyBattles
    InkyBattles
    I mean by breaking the boundary between two space time continuums and displacing everything inside one spacetime (like the reality and physical matter) into another space time as well. Basically merging space-time and its matter into another space-time.

    But nevermind here’s an easier question, what if a character/object can control just a single space-time continuum by controlling its fundamental aspects of reality. The fundamental aspects of reality would still mean space-time in that context, right?
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    hmm
    yeah from the looks of the first description and the 2nd one
    it would grant AP based on merging 2 spacetimes
    Reality warping hax
    Space-time manipulation
    Time manipulation if shown also merging the history of both spacetime

    If they describe it as controlling reality or fundamental aspect of reality etc
    Reality warping + description describing the degree on how far (e.g. Up to space-time/History, Fundamental information, Concepts, etc etc)
    it could be more depending on how in depth the verse

    Cause when we say Fundamental Aspects of reality
    it talks about Necessary natures within reality that exist where in reality would fall apart without
    this at the very basic is yes
    1. Space and Time or sometimes just called history
    2. Concepts (Type 1&2) or Type 1 Abstracts
    3. Fundamental information (if it exists but this one is harder to prove)
    4. others that do not fall under the 3 that uniquely exist in the story
    Hey Jedi, if you have knowledge on hypertimelines, can you help me know if this is a hypertimeline?
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    that's not hypertimeline
    but more so close to uncountable branch
    but IIRC the requirement for uncountable infinite branching is that it branches at every point in time and not just every second or moment
    every infinitesimal point in time
    Ar1216789
    Ar1216789
    The future is expanding endlessly at every single moment in time

    Time is constantly changing

    is that not enough
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    not enough if im following Agnaa's explanation.

    It's actually really hard to prove
    Hey Jedi! Hope youre doing well. I just had two questions about Granblue I wanted to ask out of curiosity if that's okay. My first question was just that in general:

    1) do you think Granblue has any potential to reach 1-A and are there any arguments you might have in mind?

    2) Regarding Estalucia, I find the statements saying that it cannot be described in terms of vertical space + the boundary being beyond the bounds of dimensions to be very interesting. Could you interpret the former statement to mean that no amount of numbered dimensions can describe Estalucia and theoretically boost its rating that way, or is there more context there?

    Sorry for the long questions and thanks in advance if you're able to give your insights
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    1 - still not sure the main story update hopefully tackles that as they actually enter estalucia

    2 - jp txt implies about it cannot be described in terms of above or below and noa seems to say is that the idea is working on a higher realm to both sky and stars
    Hello.
    You may not know me but I have seen your name in the Akame Ga Kill Supporter List and so I've come to ask for your participation for this matchup. We're lacking in arguments from Seryu's side and I'm currently trying to message people to have a say. Sorry if I'm bothering you.
    I have a question, if a realm has two timescapes (aka multi-dimensional times) merged together? would that qualify as a complex temporal dimension or higher dimensional existence?
    InkyBattles
    InkyBattles
    What if 1 realm linear time and 1 realm with non-linear time is merged together does this make much of a difference?

    Also dosn’t existing inside a realm with multi-dimensional time qaulify as immeasurable speed? because you wouldn’t be bounded by time.
    TheGreatJedi13
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    Existing inside a realm with multi-dimensional time wouldn't qualify unless elaborated on how he interacts with the complex time. if he can travel through the complex time then it qualifies.

    you still have to define non-linear time. saying something is moving forward or backward often depicts linear time

    explaining it like a diagonal movement may qualify since like my graph if you move diagonally in a complex time you move from different points of time within 2 different axes at once such as moving from point 2 to any point in T4.

    Moving upwards could also be just linear movement since it is still a straight upward movement
    InkyBattles
    InkyBattles
    I mean non-linear like a time loop. Ain’t timeloops considered non linear time?
    Hey dude, in the end the Final Fantasy Tactics CRT went through and the proposals were accepted. Just wanted to pop over and thank you for all your help with it. It really helped me get things going.
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    No prob i was watching it but It seems everything was handled fine so i didn't hop in and made any more comments or rebuttal
    TartaChocholate
    TartaChocholate
    Yeah, everything went smoothly. We got a bit stuck regarding how to handle the abilities of one Job Class, but it worked out in the end. No worries, dude, you helped me more than enough.
    helo, can you evaluate this thread?
    Hey Jedi its me again lol sorry to bother but I was curious about the recent Heart of the Sun event and the scaling/hax/upgrades that may come from it, regardless of canonicity. If you have played it, would you be able to give a brief rundown of the most important parts of the event and how stuff like the power of the Omnipotent affects the Captains scaling/hax? Thanks in advance for your help as always!
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    It is being revised to become immeasurable speed. although there are more nuance and varieties for this because there were also some statements regarding how speed works in granblue now (most notably the introduction of relativity and time dilation and how going faster than SoL physically makes one go infinite/immeasurable speed)


    And yes Captain while either using this power or while using the boundary gains resistance to things which is why they needed it to defeat Orologia who controls causality and the flow of time
    Abeastiry
    That's actually sick. Yeah I've been wondering when the immeasurable speed revisions would go through since it's a little odd that such a strong verse was limited to MFTL+ despite a bunch of evidence for higher speed. Hopefully you can get one more mod approval soon to make the changes from your other CRT at least.

    And thanks for clearing that up. Just wanted to be sure. Thank you for your insights as always 🙏🏾

    Oh one last thing. I was looking at the phisiology page for Granblue and noticed that you mentioned Akasha made up the concepts of space-time in sky realm. I can see the concept of time stuff but do you have scans or just reasoning that includes concept of space? Thanks again in advance.
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    Akasha is the concept of History, not spacetime. Well they are almost practically the same but ultimately different in Granblue standard since
    History is like the record of time and Akasha's record includes the future and she can practically change that record. While spacetime is like the timeline.
    iirc Akasha only holds the record of Sky-realm and not anything outside the history of Sky-realm she can go outside the timeline and write things not within the timeline (like adding a collab character and such). Granblue Cosmology honestly is a lot like closer to "Fate's" situation where the Earth's surface is like universal in size etc and their moon is a separate dimension on its own that has like infinite multiverse something while the entirety of the universe is way higher.

    there are things like separate concepts that have dominion over the same thing.
    just like how Orologia is the Wedge that defines Time flow and Causality he can control time and causality at will
    Akasha being the concept of history can control history which in turn controls Causality and time as well
    Xolotl is a primal beast of causality and he can practically send people into the past and such without problems with paradox (or probably because if he does that affected past will simply be branched out)
    They can practically do the same things but their power must not collide with each other as it will cause contradiction which Orologia avoids so she has to indirectly affect them rather than simply writing them off and such

    iirc the one closest to the concept of space is the Primal beast of gateway Angra Mainyu who can reach any dimension or send people into random dimensions and one needs a beacon to be found again
    Hey Jedi! Hope youre doing well. Just had a quick question about Granblue, in particular, a scan that is apparently unavailable. It was the scan that talked about how the Boundary could not be described in terms of vertical space if I'm remembering correctly. For some reason, when you click on the link for it, it says the scan is unavailable, so I was simply wondering if you could provide it here if possible please? Thanks in advance either way!
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    oh there was a broken link?
    Can you tell me if it's in official page so I can fix it
    It's a new scan from new main story

    Read from the bottom
    Abeastiry
    Thanks for that! Nah I don't think it was on an official page AFAIK. It was just something I found interesting on the beyond dimensional review thread and I saw that a few links were dead.

    Also just for clarification, is Estalucia below the Boundary? Just wanna be clarification about its position in the cosmology if that's cool.
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    Estalucia is below the boundary. well some characters believe they refer to the same place. but clearly they are different as Estalucia is an actual realm with places and such and has a planet in it
    Scene_evt240312_ed_21_a.png

    The narrator said this place is Estalucia and the phoenix reached it after traveling all dimensions, all alternate timelines in different times, all corners of the skies, etc.

    While boundary is portrayed as something more empty
    Hello i found this , if it's good, it will Likely change every 2-B to 2-A
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    this is planned but tierring changes that affects this rating as a whole so I'm putting it last
    currently granblue is already 2-B on some characters
    but this one confirm 2-A
    Hey GreatJedi! Hope you're doing well! Just had two quick questions if that's okay.

    1) just for funsies, what would you say the 1-A meta is for Granblue Fantasy? I'm mostly just curious about its application in other tiering systems that involve stuff like being above the concept of space, dimensionality etc.

    2) Are there any plot related hax or resistances in the verse? And would the Captain happen to possess or resist said abilities?

    Thank you in advance for your time!
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    Scaling feats tbh is a long explanation
    But the explanation page usually covers it

    Sky-realm < Astral realm < Otherworld =< Orologia = Etemenanki = Boundary = Providence = Sky/Astral God = Estalucia =<Omnipotent

    Captain Fought Sandalphon
    Captain Fought proto-bahamut which can already obliterate the universe in this avatar
    Avatar (Lucilius creation) is created to destroy etemenanki
    Captain defeated Avatar
    Captain was given Primarch weapons
    Captain Fought Ultimate Bahamut
    Beelzebub absorbed Avatar
    Lucilius destroyed Etemenanki at base
    Lucilius absorbed Lucio who guards Etemenanki and is a stage manager for reality
    Captain defeated Lucilius
    Captain was tested by Bahamut
    Lyria gains Ultimate Bahamut summon at 000

    Etemenanki encompasses both Providence (worldly) and chaos (otherworldly) but unbound by it
    NannoKarma
    NannoKarma
    Thank you for the scaling it will help its noted. If you have some scans about the Fights or something just a few i could use them, i think i found some boss Fight of them on YouTube to show that captain defeated them (i Hope its good)
    TheGreatJedi13
    Hey, do you have any other gacha games you played? 👀
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    Well i reduced the amount im playing and returned to old one

    atm what I play is

    Unknown Knights
    Arknights
    Star Rail
    Genshin
    Granblue Fantasy
    FFBE WOTV
    Alchemia Story

    I don't play all daily just every now and then
    Kisaragi_Megumi
    Kisaragi_Megumi
    I see
    I should go back to Arknights project on this site again lel, you and the others are still working on it
    Hello, if you don't mind, is it possible that you can help me with a question regarding Acausality? Thanks in advance
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    rip disney hates my country it seems.
    If you can share me the entire episode and title I can prolly look it up and watch it myself
    RoTt35
    RoTt35
    Loki: Season 1, Episode 6: For All Time. Always., minute 24:50
    TheGreatJedi13
    TheGreatJedi13
    checking it i don't think he was unaffected. He weaponized Alioth to prune universes that branch which has other version of himself that might be evil. so I don't think he is unaffected but rather not being targetted by Alioth

    The Void at the end of Time feels more like a space outside Time yet the Multiverse still branches when they cross the threshold meaning time still flows while they are still there but just that the space they are in is likely independent from this multiverse or branches.

    i don't think its enough for Acausality. As he is simply preventing the universe from making branches outside the main line continuously
    Though one thing you could do is that if you can or manage to tie Time and Causality as two sides of the same coin you can probably argue Type 4 by being outside time aka different system

    but that would require other evidence to prove that Time = Causality
    thus by saying outside time you also imply outside normal causality
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