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I mean Fubuki activates it while the explosion has just been detonated. As we saw from the animation, time does decelerate and then stop briefly right before it reverses, but that still requires the reactionary speed within that time window.
Theres not really a delay persay when she activates it

Yeah, true. I may just calculate that then, tbh. Because that could easily be beyond Supersonic

The problem will be finding a good clip I can count the frames of. Since most YouTubers don’t show when they fail

Oh ive already found one that i linked on Fubuki's profile, but ill send here to save from spoiler risks

youtube.com/watch?si=cRpg5jUZOI4EEhg9&t=5265&v=zV-ytsR1vCc&feature=youtu.be

To be fair, there are multiple of these and the distances likely vary? Maybe the one in Aetheria Academy will probs yield the best results

I can check in a sec. I’m almost done. Doing investigation for chapter 4

I finished! That was a super good game! And yeah, I’ll do all calculations!

Fun thing for Shinigami is that her base, non god form should have at least Peak Human lifting, as she can snap Yuma’s neck

Her size, by my (still unevaluated) calcs has her at all level, class 25 lifting, and subsonic speed

I’ll still calculate her destruction for a baseline. I think her, Yuma, and Makoto could have a “possibly universe level” added on, as their final battle was making holes in the dimension itself

I’ll also calculate the explosion reaction feat for a baseline speed. I might do the Desuhiko disguise calc. Still not sure

I think those are all that’s necessary. Yuma in the labrynth should just be baseline wall level. I might calculate him breaking the brick walls. I suppose it could reach small building level maybe. He does have some even stronger looking destruction feats, but there isn’t really enough reference to calculate them. He could just go to baseline building level destruction, as he destroyed buildings and large amounts of what seems like glass?

I think that’s all that’s worth saying for now. Let me know what you think!

Ayy nice, glad you enjoyed it. Did you play the DLC episodes too? Those should be included with Rain Code Plus
Feats wise, theres a feat of a character completely kicking down a door and breaking it off its hinges for several metres (Doesnt really scale to anyone but just further proves the superhuman aspects), and theres also a feat for Yakou where he forces open an elevator door if thats anything?

The feat i was talking about that could upgrade at least Halara to 9-B was in Chapter 4, where Halara flipped their coin across an entire corridor so hard that it broke the peacekeepers protective glass (Should be comparable to a SWAT helmet? Peacekeepers feel the most like SWAT officers). Halara also did this casually, alongside all their general beatdown feats proving they're just superhuman to some degree

I think Yuma could possibly be better than Wall, Chapter 5 he is directly fighting against Makoto/Mystery Phantom Makoto who showing some pretty upper destruction feats (I have to rewatch Chapter 5 in general for a better grasp on Homunculi). I know for sure they destroyed a chunk of a clocktower or something? As for the Universe stuff, im open to it being a possibility, however i think its tricky to say when the entire Mystery Labyrinth hinges on knowing facts about the case as its source of interacting. Surely its skeptical to say its Uni by pure power as opposed to just how the physics within the Mystery Labyrinth works. Also Vivia can scale to Yuma within a Labyrinth

I'll look at all the calculations as you go! At best i can provide some context for feats if you need any and ill try and see if theres anymore by the end of it!

(This is the list i developed off the top of my head
Real World:
AP/LS
-Yakou forcing open an elevator
-Ninetailed Cat breaking off the museum door with a kick (Desuhiko DLC)
-Halara launching people into the air
-Halara flipping a coin a great distance away and smashing the glass of a peacekeepers helmet.
Yuma throwing a brick at a Peacekeeper

Speed
-Vivia/Halara's speed against Amaterasu gunmen (Chap4)
-Fubuki reacting to a bullet in slow motion
-Fubuki reacting to an explosion detonation

Mystery Labyrinth
-Shinighami laser destroys a large rock (Chapter 0)
-GOD Shinigami running through walls and kicking iron balls.
-Shinigamu lasers, destroying a large speakerphone (Chap1)
-Shinigami lasers clearing a bundle of clouds (Chap2)
-Explosion of a Mystery Labyrinth
-Chapter 5 explosion Yuma was in epicentre of
-Yuma deflecting Amaterasu train cart with a sword (Chap5)

I actually didn’t! That being said, kicking a steel door off its hinges is hard to calculate, but I’d estimate to be Street-Wall level

So, again, nothing is evaluated, so take all I say with some grain of salt. But I calculated the explosion feat to be Supersonic+

Shinigami kicking the metal ball and breaking through the giant wall are both small building level

Also, for her doing that with flicking the coin, that would be hard to calculate. But given that swat helmets can resist gunfire, and that some estimates place the force needed to crack them at 3.2 megejoules, I’d say placing that at wall level is ok.
I noticed her kicking people into the air. They would kinda be a pain to calculate. But they appear to be about street level

Most of my calcs are done through mobile, since I don’t have a pc with a keyboard rn lol, so I’m only gonna do calcs that are absolutely necessary lmao. (At least once’s that require pixel calculations and stuff)

That being said, I’d say speed for real world caps at supersonic+. I haven’t done the calls for Desuhiko getting dressed quickly. I estimate about Supersonic. That would be a pretty easy calc to do, so lmk if you think it’s necessary

And yeah. Real world capping at wall level sounds fair, and supersonic+ for speed

There aren’t any real lifting feat in the real world. So the cap is lowly athletic-peak human

So far, High Hypersonic peak labyrinth speed

At least Building level, likely Universe level+ peak for Labyrinth. That being said, link some of the feats to remind me of which ones you think are important. I’ll take a look and see if any would be worth calculating

And class 25 lifting peak

Keep in mind though again, we do need the calcs to be evaluated. Unfortunately, evaluation is taking longer for these than they had for hundred line

Thats fine, theres no rush on feats. I can try and link a few later but overall it sounds promising so far. I gotta rewatch Chapter 5 at some point

Lifting feats in real world would come from Halara launching those guys and Yakou forcing open a lift in a DLC episode, id recommend playing the DLC tho theyre super fun (short but fun)

Oh, true. Tbh, I’m gonna say outright that they’re in the peak human ranges. From her jumping as well. Because I can’t really see an irl human doing that, and because higher jumps I’ve calculated have landed at Peak Human lifting

Now, another thing. For Rain Code, I think even the weaker characters should be street level. The reason being that even regular peace keepers can survive kicks that launch them into the air

And even Fubuki, who isn’t very fit, could fight them. As well as Kurumi, a high school girl. They’re still fodder compared to Halara or Vivia though, of course, so they don’t scale to wall level

Also, if you can’t find my page on fandom, lmk. But if you can, all my calcs are on there if you want to speed up any evaluations

I did give it a bit of thought, though im unsure in myself cause the Peacekeeper footsoldiers, although having to be soemwhat trained, are...very incompetent.
Halara with their precision would likely know how to strike them to not kill them and they dont really fight back in any way? Even Desuhiko kinda no sells a punch from them (But he's got multiple instances where you can imply a huge tolerance to pain). If it can be calced to Street then i wouldnt mind ofc
After reading Desuhiko's chapter in 'While Awaiting Yuma', apparently he's taken down multiple mafia members or 'black suits' through punches and kicks? So i wouldnt mind maybe looking at boosting him to Street but at the same time im relying on faulty translations here (and in the games, all it extends is him essentially hugging people to keep them at bay.) He works mainly on stealth and trickery though, and his only other physical confrontations are self-sacrificial or fake lol

Fubuki and Kurumi kinda only dodged the Peacekeepers (and tkaing intp account Fubuki's forte, theres nanrratively a chance at multiple attempts at such), so im not sure we can scale them like that. Fubuki does just seem to be there for the sheer power of her Forte and only got this far as a Master Detective because of it (and other good ties foor the WDO to the Clockford family) Yuma DID briefly fend off Peacekeepers and has a few standard physical feats so idm calling him 10-A for now.

Im interested in looking at how Homunculi strength may differ to regular humans though, given the whole Blank Week Mystery deal completely wiping out the population of humans. But that may also differ depending on whether theyre in a berserk state or not.

Yeah ill be able to find your calcs! I can help get them all evaluated and spread the word when i got time. Making profiles for Yomi, Makoto, Yuma and Shinigami kinda does depend on calcs and i dont wanna lose my motivation to a burnout when this verse is pretty easy (and gives me experience in broadening intelligence standards)

Fair enough! I’ll leave the scaling mainly to you, and just give some of my thoughts and help with the calcs

Have you played Danganronpa? Because I had an interesting theory

Will do!

And yh ive played all the dangans, the original formula haha.
Lemme guess, the pink blood

You guessed it. What if Danganronpa takes place after Rain Code, and most humans are Humunculi? Just a thought lol

Oh yeah! Checked one more thing. For forcing open elevator doors. It looks like that could take anywhere from 10-1125 pounds of force. Quite the range. Either way, it doesn’t pass Peak Human lifting. So I don’t think irl humans quite reach into the superhuman lifting in rain code. Pretty close though

Also, for Desuhiko. I think his quick disguises are almost too hard to place. In an unofficial calculation, they could be anywhere from subsonic to supersonic, but we have such little information, and so much speculation that I don’t think I’m gonna do an official calc

When drawing up the map, I don’t think he’s moving fast enough to appear to teleport. If you pay attention when the jumps happen, Shinigami and Yuma also appear to jump. So I think him drawing up the map is just being skipped over

For kicking up dust, that’s not necessarily really a speed feat. Even if so, there’s no real way to calculate it

For him scaling to Fubuki’s reaction speed, it’s iffy, since we don’t see any direct comparison. I think giving Yuma faster reactions is fair since he reacts before her in some cutscenes. And Halara and Vivia are faster than the others. But Desuhiko has no real direct comparison

So I think you have the right idea. Listing him as unknown, at best comparable to her

For his durability, I could see street level. Human kicks contain street level power, and especially since he was sent flying by Martina’s

That being said though, I still think his profile looks pretty good

In general, you’re doing good on the profiles. I like how you list Fubuki’s reaction speed being higher. I can’t wait to see how you do the Hundred Line ones