• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Elizhaa

Elizhaa

VS Battles Administrator
Joined
Messages
16,477
Reaction score
9,402

Profile posts Postings About

  • EL_xWatcher1234x
    Could this be interpreted as a qualitative jump through comprehension?
    Their side could meddle with the underlying principles of the cosmos, not only that, even transcending the underlying principles of cosmos was within their reach. But even with such power, they might be defeated against this powerful enemy if they let their guard down. Ch 550
    Click to expand...
    The lowest rank was the third rank, then the second rank, the first rank, and then the top was the special rank technique user.

    The third rank was those who could use even one age of god magic. It was the line when someone got recognized as a law technique user.

    From there they became second rank when they could use multiple age of god magic, first rank if they could reach even one of the essences of age of god magic, and special rank if they could deepen the essence even further, or perhaps being able to use multiple. Ch 551
    Click to expand...
    Our current understanding of A.M. is based on Liberators personal experience, instead of a complete understanding of what it is
    Elizhaa
    Elizhaa
    Its sounds like it could be layer to normal with the context of rank; maybe type concept type 1 if there are more contexts the underlying principles of cosmos were transcended.

    qualitative jump through comprehension?
    • Only it sounded a bit confusing because for qualitative jump some nature of series could enable such cases to be 1-A like cultivation with the dao and essence
    EL_xWatcher1234x
    EL_xWatcher1234x
    The universal concepts might be just a limited extension of World Tree branches
    That was the existence of “possible world”.

    According to Foltina, even their nine universes were located on nothing more than a single branch from a major branch that extended from the world tree. Furthermore their universes were nothing more than the leaves that grew at the further end of a smaller branch. There were other branches and leaves beside their branch. Nearby branch would have similar worlds with theirs, while the far away branch could possibly could have worlds with completely different culture and history engraved on them.

    Not only that, it might even be possible that there were different major branches that grew from the world tree, where mankind itself didn’t exist there in the first place, where the worlds were completely different, in law of physics, concept, or the world’s underlying principle.

    「It’s not a simple story where there’s an origin world and that’s it huh.」Ch 470
    Click to expand...
    The world Tree obviously transcend them as they are merely branches that could be "pruned"(read Void)
    This is traight up 1-A
    「You said that these guys came from this so called “Mu/void” but……what’s this “void”?」

    「It means exactly as it is but……let’s see. If I have to give it a definition then perhaps I should described it as “a space that is defined as nothing is existing” perhaps.」

    Apparently it was a complete darkness, a space where not a single object existed.

    And, anything that entered that space would have their body and mind overwritten with “void” and vanished.

    Nothing existed there, even existing wasn’t allowed.

    Perhaps it also ought to be called as a type of conceptual space with the concept of “nothing exist”. Ch 553
    Click to expand...

    「There’s nobody who would ever go to that kind of place because they like it. So either they had no choice but to go there, or because of accident. Either way, they must be harboring will of utmost limits of wanting to live even within such extreme condition.」

    「Especially when they had already met the end at the parallel world, that’s why they want to escape to another branch world――aa, I mean parallel world. Perhaps it’s something like that.」

    Either way. Even if they managed to survive there, it didn’t mean they could immediately go to another branch world. After all, there was nothing. Whether it was left, right, up, or down, even the concept of direction didn’t exist.

    There was nothing to be felt. Nothing could be seen, and nothing could be heard. In such world, they drifted for a time that might be equal to eternity, while praying that they would arrive at a branch world somewhere.

    There was no way they got out of it safely. Whether physically or mentally.

    「So, “void gods” are the ruins of what once were powerful people of another branch world huh.」

    「It seems their soul itself has become altered. They have almost no ability to think and become extremely instinctual. Of course, that also depends on how long they’ve been drifting though.」

    Beings with godlike power who came from the world of “void”. But, those beings had lost their original body and mind. Beings who shouldn’t exist in this world line. Therefore they were called “void gods” it seemed. Ch 553
    Click to expand...

    The god king ignored the Principles Breaking Down Phenomenon. And then, that led to a different phenomenon.

    That was “void’s encroachment”.

    This phenomenon wasn’t a phenomenon that accompanied and progressed along with the Principles Breaking Down Phenomenon. It was a new phenomenon that was triggered by the Principles Breaking Down Phenomenon.

    「? What do you mean?」

    「……We’re calling this the “pruning phenomenon”.」

    「Pruning? You mean like removing branch? That’s……no, wait. Wait a second. In other words that……it’s something like that?」

    What kind of thing? Yue and others must be feeling confused, but Hajime seemed to be so immersed in his thought that he couldn’t spare any thought to them. He covered his mouth with one hand and dropped his gaze with his body curling a little.

    From there he was saying his conjecture like talking to himself.

    「The true reason of the destruction isn’t the breaking down phenomenon itself. Yes, the branch world where the breaking down phenomenon occurring is a “rotten branch” so to speak――for the world tree.」

    In situation where a part of the branch rotted or diseased, removing that so the damage wouldn’t spread until the tree’s main body was called pruning.

    This was a what-if. What if the world tree was in possession of a function to cut down a branch on its own so that a broken world wouldn’t infect other parallel world? What if that was a “principle” in the origin world that was the world tree? Ch 553
    Click to expand...
    If one universe went down, TWT will prune the whole branch so the void might be its mechanism
    「Yes. Originally, travelling between worlds is making use of the connection between fellow “god trees”. We call that connection the “origin flow”. It’s the grand flow that connect not only those worlds, but the whole universe. The “rainbow bridge” is a technology that is riding on that flow.」Ch 552
    Click to expand...

    The origin flow surrounded the world tree. So to speak it was the pipes that brought water and nutrition to the tree. In one branch, that was “the world containing nine universes” the pipes were extending and flowing to each other.

    Riding on that flow, or forcefully advancing inside the pipe.

    That was the difference in teleportation methods between the calamity world and Hajime.

    But, those methods were possible because they happened inside the range of the “same branch”.

    In a “different branch”, which meant the parallel world, there was no flow of the origin flow. Of course, it was another branch that extended originally from the world tree so the origin flow was connected but, it would be like going against the flow to go through the main branch and then detoured to go to a different branch.

    「……It’s not something human body can endure huh.」

    「Yes, it’s impossible.」

    In case of a compressed and hardened lump of sugar merely going with the water flow and in case of it going against the current, which one would be able to maintain its shape longer? It was that kind of image.

    「Then, what about ignoring the branch? What is there between the branches, and between the leaves?」

    「Normally there’ll be air. Aa, so it’s that kind of image. In the place of air there’s this “void” huh.」

    「Yes. And, there are people who can endure the “void” that ordinary people shouldn’t be able to endure. You and hero-dono too are surely one of them.」

    「Ancient time――you’re saying that people who can use law technique or concept magic can possibly endure.」

    In other words, “void gods” were powerful beings of parallel world that possessed the power to endure the “void”.

    「……Obsession to life, fear toward something.」

    Hajime recalled what Sathla said. Beings who were powerful, and yet feeling such emotions that could be said worldly. I see, he thought.

    「There’s nobody who would ever go to that kind of place because they like it. So either they had no choice but to go there, or because of accident. Either way, they must be harboring will of utmost limits of wanting to live even within such extreme condition.」
    Click to expand...


    The reason Kouki could survive is likely a call back to this:
    When the world’s balance was starting to go out of order due to internal or external calamity or due to conflict and the like among the lives of that world, the “hero” would shoulder the role of balancer as the hands and feet of the avatar.

    That was why, when the avatar sought help and carried out a summoning, it would definitely get connected to the hero. Also, it was because the hero was an existence with the quality that the World Tree recognized, the hero was able to pass through the gap between worlds. Though as the side effect of that, when a hole was drilled open in the gap between worlds, most of the time it would also get connected to the hero. Ch 386
    Click to expand...
    Heroes are literal Isekai magnets

    Note: The great tree are avatars of TWT, and their "cores" are connected to it through the Origin Flow. That's how they access infinite energy
    Jepilstiltskin
    Hey, mind giving your thought on this?
    vsbattles.com

    Sans: Breaking the 4th Wall

    No chit-chats. So, we know about Sans breaking the fourth-wall mechanic thing, right? Well, aside from the fact that this guy does it better than basically everyone in Undertale, he also subsequently does it better than pretty much everyone in Deltarune. The reason is fairly simple. Smooth as a...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Eikichi_Sensei
    You could check this thread?

    It's not an update, but rather a reformulation of something accepted that's being misunderstood.

    vsbattles.com

    Degradation? More like a change in wording (Tensura)

    I never thought I'd start this thread, but it seems some concepts are being misunderstood. According to this thread, the following happened: Ressurection (High-Godly), Immortality (Type 2, 4, and 8; Can survive complete physical destruction, and is capable of reincarnating if he somehow dies...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Lloydblitzed
    Can you comment on this CRT? Needs one more vote
    vsbattles.com

    Ninjago and the Land of NPI

    This thread is basically to add and upscale certain NPIs lvl to every Elemental Masters and Source Dragons in the show, such as NPI for Conceptual Manipulation Type 1 and Abstract Existence Type 1. This blog contains a detailed explanation of everything regarding the subject, but since rules...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Astral_Trinity439
    Goodmorning/evening El (⁠^⁠^⁠)
    Could you please review this when you're free
    vsbattles.com

    TenSura LN Revision — Miscellaneous Additions and Removals

    Hello everyone, hope ya'll are doing well. This thread aims to simply update pre-existing information on the pages, such as assigning what layer a hax is, or some minor additions that were forgotten but should be self-evident. Table of Contents Physics Manipulation Magic can rewrite the Laws of...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

    Tysm as always!
    Mizuki67
    Your post on this would be greatly appreciated
    vsbattles.com

    Greater than the Tsar Bomba (Akari tier Upgrade)

    Well, this has now become an upgrade thread A specific building could "Not flinch" even if the Tsar Bomba was to be detonated within, that said building was crashed by Max Sanders in one blow Said max sanders punched akari and she still survived with just a fractured arm. I would say this is...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    MSahla
    Hello. I just uploaded this CRT, nobody replies yet as of now. If you have time please take a look. Tq.
    vsbattles.com

    ♦ Genshin Impact — Speed Gap For the God-Tier and A Bunch of New Abilities (1 STAFF VOTE LEFT NEEDED) ♦

    Introduction Yea, hello again. I've finally made another CRT. This time, we'll be upgrading the speed of God-Tier characters. This is only temporary for some times until we finally get god-tier speed feats which will possibly be happening during Snezhnaya. There are also some new abilities...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Astral_Trinity439
    Goodmorning/evening El :d

    Could you please drop by here when you have time
    vsbattles.com

    TenSura LN Revision — More Details on the Otherworld

    Introduction Hello everyone. Hope ya'll are doing well! So this is a continuation of the previous thread, to add one last detail to the Otherworld. I personally think this is even more simple than the last one, so hopefully this also goes without any problems. As always, please avoid any...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

    Thanks as always!
    ItsMeat
    Hi! Could you check this crt🙏🙏
    vsbattles.com

    Bleach Extrasensorial Perception Layers

    Hello, everybody, hope you have a nice day, now, following the ridiculous amount of recent Bleach downgrade threads, a small upgrade one comes too First, we need to establish the mechanics of Extrasensory Perception in Bleach. The sense of sight is mainly based on Reikaku, the spiritual...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Click to expand...
    3Pencil
    Dropping this here incase you forgor, since you were mentioned in this thread. Input will be appreciated

    vsbattles.com

    Granblue fantasy layers and soul upgrade

    Comes directly from the omnipotent as his powers is something like an authority which godly offense and defense can not overcome, and it also grants immunity and godsight but superior to the rest type of immunity and godsight. The Phoenix who was created by the blue will is still able to resist...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Omazio2019
    Eli, may I ask this about Law Manipulation: There is a creature that has their invulnerable/immortality protected by Law (manipulation) of the world. Though there are people who can kill those (also make them exploded something nearly impossible) regardless of the immortality resilient on that law. Should that give them Resistance to Law Manipulation?
    FriendOfTheTeaParty
    vsbattles.com

    Getting logic manip and a few out of the way for a verse to come in the distant future (Godclads/Deathless)

    So I just wanna get this accepted since it's quite a broad ability or power system. There's no question about the verses notability since it is officially published by multiple publishers. Profiles are planned for the future. So first I'll start with logic manip. Gods and Godclads are able to...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

    can you take a look at this? 2 thread mods agree so far and I think I need 1 more
    Jackof_noTrades068
    Greetings, if you’re free. Would you mind checking this CRT

    vsbattles.com

    Hi3 scaling chain rework.

    This is one of two (2nd here) CRTs, to simplify and change the overall Hi3 scaling chain. This CRT will: A: Debunk L1C Durandal. B: Prove Divine Key power output is variable. C: Establish the Theatre of Domination as a L1C (5D) construct. Let's begin. Point A: Removing this feat from scaling...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Grabbing_dragon
    Hello, do you mind checking that straightforward CRT?
    vsbattles.com

    Trinity seven some additions

    The nature of magic addition. History should be added alongside magic, life energy, and fundamental information. The justification is below. What I’m getting at is that erasing a person’s magic would also count as history erasure, since it would be erasing them from the world (spacetime)...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Ihsjihahxu
    Can we bring back cm1?
    We know that gods are eternal and never die, and that their effects on the body will not affect any concepts.

    They were only possessing temporary vessels anyway, so no matter what happened to the vessel itself, it wouldn't affect their existence as gods in the slightest
    Click to expand...
    Click to expand...

    The complete slaying of a god is the destruction of the very concept of existence.
    “Oh? I see you have changed your approach. You are now attempting to kill the very concept of my being. Of course, killing this vessel means little,so that is the correct path to take, but is it something you are capable of?
    Underhanded tactics like killing the concept of a person only works if you
    alone are capable of doing it
    Click to expand...
    Even eliminating their existence is not enough to completely kill the god.
    “I told you from the beginning I intended to kill you. All that remained
    was to see how much of a fight you put up. If you had fought until the end, I
    would have at least asked your name. Die.”
    Having lost interest, she killed the man, erasing his existence. At the same
    Click to expand...
    The UEG had never considered that. She had believed gods were
    indestructible, eternal beings. She had killed any number of gods, but death
    was just another state of being for them, one from which they would
    eventually recover.
    Click to expand...
    UEG killed many gods, but those gods didn't die completely. Because of this, a powerful attack like erasing their existence wasn't enough to kill a god completely, and it didn't affect their concepts; it only affected the object of their concepts.

    The gods can kill the concept of a person's existence, and the yogurt that destroyed that concept should be returned. Concept mani type1 ?

    What do you think?
    SatellaTheWoE
    Hello Elizhaa!

    I hope you are doing well and having a wonderful day

    I needed an expert's opinion on this crt and it did be really great if you could help me out

    vsbattles.com

    Re:Zero Od CM type 1 shenanigans

    This is a very straightforward CRT, from our wiki standards of cm type 1 Independent Universal Concepts: Such concepts are completely independent from the part of reality they govern, except maybe of other concepts of this nature. These concepts shape all of reality within their area of...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Astral_Trinity439
    Goodmorning/evening Elizhaa
    Whenever you're free, could you please drop by on the new tensura crt?
    vsbattles.com

    Tensura - More details to The Abyss

    Hello everyone. This is a continuation of these 2 previous threads. Table of Contents Important Clarifications Previously it was accepted that the Underworld is a nonexistent realm. However, it was debated whether Abyss is NEP2 or a layer into NEP1. At that time, the latter was accepted as back...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

    Thanks as always!
    Demon_Lord18
    Can you evaluate this? It’s pretty simple.
    vsbattles.com

    Nanatsu no Taizai: Upgrade FTL+ (2)

    Recently, I had this calculation accepted, and it slightly changes our scaling in Nanatsu no Taizai. I would also like to add this Diane calculation to the verse page. Demon marks are accepted as a 2x multiplier for speed. Base Meliodas scales to 1.69c Ban, Demon King, Escanor, DM Meliodas...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    GilverTheProtoAngelo
    vsbattles.com

    Devil May Cry: Information Manipulation

    Argument Here's a little recap of what names in DMC represents: Names are a component of one's soul that can reshape reality on a whim if altered as we know which is also displayed with Temen-Ni-Guru requiring names to bridge through the gap between human world all the way to Demon World while...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

    Hello Elizhaa, can I request your input here please.
    Hi, Could you please evaluate this CTR?

    vsbattles.com

    Upgrade for Saya from Saya No Uta (CTR)

    Current Tier: 9-C Proposed Tier: At least 5-A, possibly High 5-A, likely 4-C Reasoning: The current profile for Saya appears to ignore several important statements from the visual novel and supplementary notes regarding the true nature of her species and biological capabilities. Attack...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    CastoriceTheFifth
    Hey can you check out this crt please. It has 2 votes and only needs 1 more 🙏
    vsbattles.com

    Honkai: Star Rail - The Ascended Chrysos Heirs (The DEFINITIVE Amphoreus Scaling)

    Agree: @Jackof_noTrades068 @Doggo @Voidnether @Nighting4l33yes @Mbpoops @Kazuma_kuwabara @Zanesucksatlife @Natsuki012 @Anonymous_Learner @PlungingThroughTime @NikHelton @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless (Thread Mod) @Reiner04 (Thread Mod) Disagree: Neutral: Agree: @Jackof_noTrades068 @Doggo @Voidnether...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Eikichi_Sensei
    Sorry for the inconvenience, could you please check this thread?

    vsbattles.com

    Parallel Existence CRT: Immortality Types 3, 4, 8 & High-Godly Regeneration (Tensura)

    Here we talk about the abilities granted by "Parallel Existence". Immortality (Types 3, 4 & 8), High-Godly (Conceptual [Type 1] & Information [Type 2]; via Parallel Existence, can revive as long as one parallel existence remains, being superior to Mist, who can regenerate under the same...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    CastoriceTheFifth
    Hey can you check out this crt please. It has 2 votes and only needs 1 more 🙏
    vsbattles.com

    Honkai: Star Rail - The Ascended Chrysos Heirs (The DEFINITIVE Amphoreus Scaling)

    Agree: @Jackof_noTrades068 @Doggo @Voidnether @Nighting4l33yes @Mbpoops @Kazuma_kuwabara @Zanesucksatlife @Natsuki012 @Anonymous_Learner @PlungingThroughTime @NikHelton @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless (Thread Mod) @Reiner04 (Thread Mod) Disagree: Neutral: Agree: @Jackof_noTrades068 @Doggo @Voidnether...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    MSahla
    If you really be so kind.
    vsbattles.com

    Genshin – Fate Manipulation for💞Citlali💞

    Introduction Citlali (Best girl in Natlan btw) should have Fate Manipulation through manipulating her own Stella Fortuna/Constellation. What is Constellations in Genshin? First of all, we need to know that Constellations are a lore concept and gameplay mechanic in Genshin Impact. They...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Astral_Trinity439
    Goodmorning/evening Elizhaa

    Could you please check out the current tensura thread?
    vsbattles.com

    TenSura LN Revision — Details on the Otherworld

    Introduction Hello everyone. Hope you all are doing well! Based on the previous CRT, this CRT aims to add more details to the Otherworld. Hopefully this also goes without a hitch like the previous CRTs. A few notes: The Otherworlds must not be confused with the other worlds. While they are...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

    Thanks!
    (Although I also pinged u on discord, I left a msg here in case you forget :d)
    Dark_Soul20189
    Hello, @Elizhaa would you be willing to share your thoughts here?
    vsbattles.com

    Shuna Profile improvement (Tensura Light Novel)

    Hello, I am back with another profile improvement. While it mainly concerns Shuna, some of the changes will affect other characters, such as the range stuff. This CRT will only do stuff until volume 7, since its main purpose is to fix and improve stuff. Verse - Tensura (Light Novel) Profile -...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Ihsjihahxu
    please checking this CRT

    vsbattles.com

    Paraconsistent addition for MGKverse

    Hello everyone, today I’m going to present the concept of Paraconsistency in the MGKverse. Let’s begin right away. GOD “Gods are order. We are absolute existences to all who live in this world. To humans, spirits, and demons, we are the law of this world. Your lives follow the circle of life...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    StarShooter80
    Can you please evaluate this CRT?
    vsbattles.com

    Major Dr. Zomboss Profile Overhaul

    Old profile New profile(s) Here's a quick summary of each of the key changes to his profile: New renders & quotes, a gallery of his notable mechs. More abilities and a separate tab for his optional equipment/with prep. High 8-C+ physicals -> 8-B physicals with 2-C durability later on, all of...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Epyriel
    Hello, mind please checking this CRT when ya got time?
    vsbattles.com

    Demon Slayer: Scaling Chains Refinements

    Introduction I’m making this thread to add some details with new sub-key distinctions for Sanemi and Shinobu and to adjust adjacent scaling for Giyu, Tanjiro, Akaza, Obanai, and Muichiro to correct some inconsistencies with existing scaling chains. Sanemi Near-Death Amp (2:8) Agree...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    Foriaa
    hi, this is a small crt that needs 2 votes, its small additions and a new key with like 3 abilities thats all. i'd appreciate your input.
    vsbattles.com

    Minor Boruto Revisions Part 2

    This thread is built off this one, which I agreed to being closed until the arc ends. Now with the arc ending in the recent chapter, I think it's fine to reopen, however, I'd like to change the OP and add AP scaling for Boruto's Kama Progression. Firstly, here's the new basic additions that...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
  • Loading…
  • Loading…
Back
Top