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That is not really a supplementary feat, and I would add something in the blog that one should ignore it.

Also, considering the nature of what is described in the written format, I think I would change the feat to an actual dodge instead of the character in quesiton blitzing the other character before the light reaches her

Would it not be both? She dodges it after it’s already closing distance to her, then reaches the person firing it, and from the perspective of the observer (Carol), they can see the light beam, but not Roswaal as she moves

Nothing in the text indicates that

Which part?

The beam of light already travelling towards her is shown by “The beam of light flew at Roswaal almost faster than the eye could see”

And Carol is convinced Roswaal will die till Roswaal crosses the distance and hits Sphinx

Yes, there is nothing that indicates Carol was unable to see the blitz

I mean, she doesn’t see her move at all and only sees the aftermath which is presumably why she’s convinced she’d die, but also, I think I’ve made most of the changes you wanted if you’re willing to check again

I'm not convinced she blitzed before the beam covered the whole distance, will you alter it or not?

Oh that’s just a super high end, it wasn’t to represent an actual belief I have because I’m not convinced/certain about it either, if you want to you can ignore it in favour of the mid end

Also I edited it out in favour of 10-70%

As the calc is I won't accept any end. As I said before, the text mentions she dodges first, and I want you to make a calc for that dodge, assume she did a side-step (a 90 degree movement, using her shoulder width as the radius) or another you think its relevant, but combining both the text and the manga does not lead me to believe the character is faster than light

The text says she dodged and stepped in rather than she dodged then stepped in, so would it not be better to just treat it as a joint action rather than one done with a time lag?

Especially considering that, again, Carol (the observer) simply witnesses it as a “she’s about to get hit” to a “she just hit the opponent” which is what the manga seems to imply as well

I don't think so

The white beam fired at Roswaal had reached the very limit of what the naked eye could perceive.


Carol therefore resigned herself to the fact that she could do nothing but witness Roswaal’s vaporization. That resignation turned into astonishment.


“…I’m surprised.”


“Didn’t I tell you? I’m the one who will kill you.”


Clutching the abdomen that had been struck, Sphinx breathed painfully for the first time. The one who had done it was unquestionably Roswaal, who dodged the white beam and, from a single instantaneous step-in, threw a punch.

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May I ask why you think they use conjunctive language here rather than sequential language if you believe they were done in separate actions?

The wording you're using there is different from the one provided by you in the calc itself. And either way, both wordings still make be believe she dodged the beam of light and then threw a punch, not that she blitzed the ray of light

Yeah I should have changed the TL cuz Yenpress sucks, but she doesn’t need to blitz the ray of light, all she needs to do is reach Sphinx before the spell reaches her, furthermore, Carol turning amazed at the end implies that it was a last second thing, no? Since she had already begun to resign herself to Roswaal’s fate, which wouldn’t make sense if the beam was just sidestepped or, if she could perceive Roswaal closing the distance, which is why she only notes Roswaal’s actions after the fact

No, I don't think so, and no, she doesn't need to reach Sphinx before the spell reaches her. If she dodges the spell, she can close the distance and then hit her. If the spell is like light, as long as she dodges once, she doesn't have to worry about that

Yeah it’s light, I guess it’s just a difference in terms of interpretations, I’ll have to ask other CGM’s what they think, in the meantime as you fine with checking a less vague calc for me or no?

Furthermore, on your interpretation is the dodge and distance close in separate timeframes?

Sure, so long as it doesn't break any of the rule I've set

I also don't know what you meant, are you asking if the dodge and the distance are close or in separate timeframes? Explain it abit more

Yeah so say like, as Roswaal leans past it she closes the distance at the same time, so dodge while not requiring as much speed to be FTL, the step in should, which is also why it’s considered instantaneous from the perspective of Carol?

The other calc is this - https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Hercules1125/Olbart_leaves_his_shadow_behind

My interpretation is that the step in shouldn't be near FTL because I believe it is not clear the character in question was faster hten what this Carol can perceive. In other words, no, I don't think it would FTL, because there's no indication it is

Fair enough, but why do you think it’s described as instantaneous if it wasn’t too fast for Carol to see? And if you think it’s too fast for Sphinx to see, Sphinx should also scale to her magic too