Not all Marines are resocialized but yes I agree of them as also an optional feature/power for Marines.
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Not_Icarus
OneBleachHurricane
Basically Average Human Level Recruits (Convicts, Conscripts, Volunteers) undergo Boot Camp training in conjunction with Stim & Steroid treatments to become basically Athlete or Peak Level Soldiers
Not_Icarus
Where'd you get the steroid stuff anyway? I'm sure it exists but I'm also certain of the fact that it's not a mandated thing at least with current Marines in the settings. They vary from normal dudes to big buff guys like Tychus.
OneBleachHurricane
The steroid stuff was during the Brood War under Mengsk's regime
I don't know if that's still the case under Valerian
ICEHOUSE ~ Michael O'Reilly & Robert Brooks
Reaper recruits are also given steroids among other things in their development and training
He was only woken up before the beginning of the Second Zerg invasion
A War On ~ James Waugh
The steroid stuff was during the Brood War under Mengsk's regime
I don't know if that's still the case under Valerian
ICEHOUSE ~ Michael O'Reilly & Robert Brooks
Reaper recruits are also given steroids among other things in their development and training
Tychus was from a different era entirely, the Guild Wars.
He was only woken up before the beginning of the Second Zerg invasion
Not_Icarus
Ah so it was from Ah War On.
I remember the Reapers from Ice House so that checks out.
Tychus is just really built like that really with his genetics. His life has a lot of physical labor and worked as a marine for the confederacy for a time too.
I remember the Reapers from Ice House so that checks out.
Tychus is just really built like that really with his genetics. His life has a lot of physical labor and worked as a marine for the confederacy for a time too.
OneBleachHurricane
So I don't understand the problem with strong guys looking like normal dudes since lean muscles are a thing (muscles with low fat)
Also steroids don't magically make you a big bulky guy they just help but you still need to put in the work and effort.
So I don't understand the problem with strong guys looking like normal dudes since lean muscles are a thing (muscles with low fat)
Not_Icarus
Extra ordinarily large dudes like Tychus can be explained actually. The humans of the koprulu sector are descendants of earth outcasts from project purity. Basically anyone the UPL/UED deemed at the time as "impure" people with cybernetics, disabled people, political enemies, extraordinarily large or small people like Tychus and Hiram Feek (basically ableism and stuff) was sent to the shuttles to be exiled from the earth. They're fascist and pretty much took out anyone against their vision of a perfect world. They banned all religion and basically made the world into one big fascist government.
Not_Icarus
Also I don't think I was complaining about lean muscles as far as I can tell.
OneBleachHurricane
You said you were skeptical of the use of Steroids for Marines because as you said Marines vary from Normal Looking Dudes to Big Looking Dudes like Tychus
Then I explained the concept of Lean Muscles to you because Normal Looking Dudes can be as strong as Big Looking Dudes without the same bulk
I never implied you were complaining about lean muscles. Reread what I posted.
You said you were skeptical of the use of Steroids for Marines because as you said Marines vary from Normal Looking Dudes to Big Looking Dudes like Tychus
Then I explained the concept of Lean Muscles to you because Normal Looking Dudes can be as strong as Big Looking Dudes without the same bulk
Not_Icarus
Ah I see.
OneBleachHurricane
Good News, one Calc Group Member seems to have given their approval of the Nuke Calc, maybe a few more and we can use this for scaling in the next StarCraft CRT
Not_Icarus
That's good to hear. Although for my plans I don't plan on directly scaling anyone to the apocalypse class nukes since nobody ever really tanked one (Although you could argue the final char mission with warfield's nuclear arsenal in hots as an example). I'm also waiting for a friend of mine to finish a Baneling calc for me if he ever gets around to it. Basically I asked him to calc 1 marine vaporization and multiply it by 8 since that's the maximum amount of marines a baneling cat hit around itself ingame as a lowball estimate.
I still believe on making the high ends high 6-a for a lot of the 6-C folks because it doesn't really contradict Kerrigan's current tier of being unknowingly above roughly 200 petatons. It's still a dozens of times gap between baseline and her. Makes it more believable that mass fire from armies can harm her. Plus we have a good direct showcase of Immortals who 1v1'd hybrids in the 2nd Korhal mission of lotv.
I still believe on making the high ends high 6-a for a lot of the 6-C folks because it doesn't really contradict Kerrigan's current tier of being unknowingly above roughly 200 petatons. It's still a dozens of times gap between baseline and her. Makes it more believable that mass fire from armies can harm her. Plus we have a good direct showcase of Immortals who 1v1'd hybrids in the 2nd Korhal mission of lotv.
OneBleachHurricane
Ultralisk. It was a plot point in their Evolution Mission that Mengsk ordered his troops to fire several Nukes at them, one at a time.
Not_Icarus
I guess we can argue that the experimental nuke was stronger than normal nukes and he ramped up the nuke potency of other nukes since Korhal was directly under siege.
OneBleachHurricane
No confirmation, the experimental nuke was what they absorbed to mutate into a Torrasque. Ultralisks = Torrasque in Stats except for their Regeneration/Resurection
No confirmation either, all we know is that the Torrasque Strain, which are no different than Ultralisks stat-wise other than their Regeneration/Resurrection, is able to survive a few nukes.
Not_Icarus
There's no confirmation yes. It's just what I thought since you said that you'll scale Ultralisks to apocalypse class nukes through the experimental nukes.
Speaking of their regeneration, they have high-mid by resurrecting themselves from a messy carcass.
Speaking of their regeneration, they have high-mid by resurrecting themselves from a messy carcass.
OneBleachHurricane
Never said this though? How'd you even come to that conclusion? Review their Evolution mission, after they are mutated by the experimental nuke Mengsk orders his troops to fire standard Apocalypse Class nukes on the Torrasques.
Not_Icarus
What are standard apocalypse class nukes? We don't have any official known classifications for apocalypse class nukes. The only classes we have are tactical and apocalypse class nukes.
The nukes fired at the ultralisks after the experimental nuke are unnamed and presumably just standard nukes.
I was also replying to this since it looks to me that you said that you'll scale them to apocalypse class nukes.
The nukes fired at the ultralisks after the experimental nuke are unnamed and presumably just standard nukes.
I was also replying to this since it looks to me that you said that you'll scale them to apocalypse class nukes.
OneBleachHurricane
These are the nukes that are laser designated by ghosts as shown in Ghost Academy
Apocalypse Class Nukes are the Tactical Nukes that Ghosts use though? Shown in Ghost Academy.
What other type of nuke is there other than the already named Apocalypse Class that needs to be Laser Designated by a Ghost specifically?
Not_Icarus
Those apocalypse class nukes were from a battlecruiser equipped with them. Most battlecruisers are normally not equipped with such measures as far statements go.
Apocalypse class nukes are banned for the most part at least against terrans. The ghost academy took on the role of the missile silo on housing tactical nukes for the ghosts that regular use them on operations that involve nuking.
Only tactical and apocalypse class nukes as I've said. Laws were passed for terrans to rely on smaller tactical nukes against each other and more for ghosts to do the targeting themselves to prevent another Korhal incident. Also another reason for manual ghost targeting is to avoid outside interference like hacking funny enough.
Apocalypse class nukes are banned for the most part at least against terrans. The ghost academy took on the role of the missile silo on housing tactical nukes for the ghosts that regular use them on operations that involve nuking.
Only tactical and apocalypse class nukes as I've said. Laws were passed for terrans to rely on smaller tactical nukes against each other and more for ghosts to do the targeting themselves to prevent another Korhal incident. Also another reason for manual ghost targeting is to avoid outside interference like hacking funny enough.