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  1. The_Yellow_Topaz

    One Piece AP review

    You said I didn't read it based nothing. You don't disregard anything, and you also don't assume why people disagree with anything. Huh, I thought OP "didn't say shit about scaling". Funny. Avoid interacting with me in the future unless you need to address arguments I've made.
  2. The_Yellow_Topaz

    One Piece AP review

    This implies Whitebeard should be able to do the same, which could only be derived from scaling. Don't question my disagreement for no good reason just because you didn't understand it.
  3. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Sans' "KARMA" and Soul Manipulation Debunk - Explanation on what KR is and what it does

    Asriel's fight.
  4. The_Yellow_Topaz

    One Piece AP review

    The fact y'all are even entertaining this is absolutely insane. Nah, disagree FRA, no one scales to that shit.
  5. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    Have we reached grace yet?
  6. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Intangibility for Goku

    In most cases we don't see where the afterimage user goes. Hell no, IN ALL CASES we don't see where they go until they counterattack. This is irrelevant. Goku's afterimage can change his expression. We also don't see where his real body is until he counters, again.
  7. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Intangibility for Goku

    That's just Zanzouken.
  8. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Hit's Time Skip: A final explanation.

    I think we're debating over little things, and said things are going to fill up the thread. Hit was obviously referring to skipping through time, since that stopped working at the end of the U6 Arc, the fact we have an official statement that confirms his Pocket Reality truly is his Time Skip...
  9. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    I'll point out again that it was added without any approval. Either way, since this is done, I'll wish you all a good day.
  10. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    Again, physics do be physics. Oozaru is, let's say ten times taller than Vegeta, but that would make him a thousand times heavier. Getting a mere 10x power boost would not compensate for speed imo
  11. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    The thread getting rejected would make the explanation also be rejected, it's the consequence of the thread's purpose, nor a change in what we're trying to achieve here. I'm trying to get the thread rejected, which also entails in removing the explanation. It's one thing.
  12. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    Did you read the thread? https://vsbattles.com/threads/oozaru-bojack.150619/ The multiplier proposed was for power Yet bro added explanations for speed.
  13. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    As an Oozaru, Vegeta was TOYING with Goku. He was not angry, citing instances where he was angry during the fight is not evidence bro was just livid 24/7
  14. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    It literally does.
  15. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    Okay There is no thread where Oozaru form is even cited as a speed multiplier (from the accepted ones in the Verse Page) No accepted scaling chain has Oozaru as a speed multiplier. No supporter, staff, or anyone was aware of this, which wouldn't be the case if it was accepted by staff in a...
  16. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    Oozaru Vegeta isn't angry. Japanese Dialogue says sluggish
  17. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    It's not a 5x increase btw. Vegeta is faster than Kaioken x2 Oozaru Vegeta is faster than Kaioken x5 That's a 2.5x increase.
  18. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    Prove it. Someone could've added this to the speed section by mistake, and it went unnoticed for years. Proof of this is that no accepted scaling chain has Oozaru as a speed multiplier. You need to give me the exact thread where this was accepted, because if it is a mistake, it's not accepted
  19. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    Again, proving it increases speed, but not to the same rate, which would make the form relatively slow for it's power level, which is consistent to what Paragus said 10x Power Level which we don't accept as linear, we have Oozaru as a 10x power multiplier via scaling. Also because they cited a...
  20. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    It's not. It's an oversight, there is NO THREAD IN THE HISTORY OF THIS FORUM that approved Oozaru being a 10x multipier in speed, there is PAGE where this is reflected. This is NOT accepted dude.
  21. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    In both cases, this would be rejected. So you're debating just for the sake of "correcting me" on something I never claimed? Again, proving Oozaru Vegeta is marginally faster than Base Vegeta is not grounds to say Oozaru would be 10x faster exactly. Super didn't retcon anything, the form is slow...
  22. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    We're not, and even if we were, Oozaru > 5x Kaioken > Vegeta > 2x isn't evidence for X10 AT ALL. Like, objectively it isn't. And Paragus line doesn't contradict anything. Getting 10x stronger and only ~x2 faster does make it for a pretty lackluster form.
  23. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    It's not, Vegeta was already faster than x2 without the form. And Goku was basically numb at this point.
  24. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    OP has no evidence of the increase applying on the same rate to speed. OP's evidence provides a near 2x increase in speed from Goku's line to prove a 10x increase. OP's evidence uses the non-linear power level system as evidence. It doesn't work for obvious reasons. We have a statement that the...
  25. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    Goku was screaming in pain from anyone touching him. Vegeta was catching hands from Gohan even AFTER being hit by a SPIRIT BOMB This is the end of the discussion, man. Goku was worse. Not at all, firstly PLs were never linear, and they will never be, so the PL multiplier thing proves nothing...
  26. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    Because it's an oversight and not actually accepted, and also there is a good chunk of evidence against it? Just a guess.
  27. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    Yeah, but that's a 2x multiplier at best. Not 10x. But even then, I disagree with any increase as we have... Well, an official statement that the form is slow. Vegeta was caught off-guard by Kaioken x2 and then immediately dominated Goku once he got serious, so comparable is the wrong word here...
  28. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    Oozaru Vegeta is faster than Goku... Just like... Regular Vegeta. So yeah, it's not a feat that proves anything. I don't know why OP thinks this is supporting evidence.
  29. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Big Monkey Get Big Speed

    We have an official statement that the Oozaru form is slow compared to the power increase. All you guys did was proving that Kaioken x5 Goku wouldn't make a difference and all the evidence there is Oozaru Vegeta being faster than Goku. Kaioken x5 Goku wouldn't be able to move a muscle either and...
  30. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    This part doesn't exist
  31. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    そういう "such; like that", 無理 "impossible; unreasonable", ばかり "only", し conjunctive form of the verb "to do", とる (toru) "to take" King Kai is basically saying Goku can't take things to such an unreasonable extent, meaning exerting himself too much, that's what caused his delayed Ki.
  32. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Official Translation Requests Thread (New forum)

    This is inaccurate in many ways and seems to be machine translated. The original Japanese text does not mention asthma at all. The correct translation should be "It's not delayed onset psychosis.", meaning a chi disease called delayed onset. Also "It's a condition in which you lose control of...
  33. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    It's "pushing yourself", meaning exerting too much stamina, which is related to the fact Goku was reckless with Kaioken. It, in no way, says anything about forcing himself into the future
  34. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    The multiplier is nothing, it's unknown. You can't say what it is or what it isn't. Lmao. Oh just so you know, even if it had a multiplier, the 2-C feat is so overwhelmingly stronger as proof that the multiplier itself would be a meaningless contradiction, Dragon Ball is consistently 2-C. This...
  35. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    That's not Super Saiyan God's multiplier. That's Vegito's multiplier, which God scales up. You can't use that example. "Hey, you can't use multipliers as a contradiction, what about these other series who have the same problem", the very definition of whataboutism. Or maybe you don't know what...
  36. The_Yellow_Topaz

    High 5-A cluster

    Oh yes, let's take the graph, which was made to show a simplified event, literally. The earth will also only be divided into 4 little pieces that aren't even close to its full size. Yeah, no, I disagree.
  37. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    The problem we have with that is that it kind of opens the door for Immeasurable Speed Dragon Ball. Which is a problem, because this is not a feat of immeasurable speed. In the future, if something as small as a summer ant shows up as evidence in any canon Dragon Ball media, they WILL use the...
  38. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    What type of bs is this "immeasurable speed is a spectrum", NO IT IS NOT. I mean, yes, you can put a scaling chain on it, but the bare minimum of the speed value is that you are unbound by time as a concept because you can move through it freely. That's the bare minimum.
  39. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    This is contradicted by the way the ability is shown, so I won't dwell on it, sometimes Goku can just move between jumps. Honestly, if he just freezes your perception of time for 0.5 seconds, and then that 0.5 seconds actually passes, he's... just waiting, to be honest, that's not really time...
  40. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    Necessarily is definitely the wrong term here, "could be interpreted as" would be more appropriate, because again, given what we know now, the possibility that Goku is simply resisting the effects of Hit's Time Hax is far more likely. Yeah, to add to that, later we have the contradiction of...
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