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Unfortunately the the DS dream manip is more likely just samus' chozo precog acting up than a dream.
As for the Interstellar / Cross Dimensional range for Samus, it mostly comes from the hint / objective systems in Prime 3 and 2
Funnily enough, the Artifact of Truth scan that shows up in the Trilogy and Remastered versions, first shows up in this guidebook.
It should be on the old Metroid Database guide site. I can send it to you in a day (On mobile and already have to sleep for work tomorrow), if you don't want to...
Hmmm can't say I really have a counterargument for Armorchompy's first point there. Knew the rules were strict, didn't realize how strict they were.
That said, for clarification sake:
The heart is the LoA. The previous scans also refer to it as the eye of Emperor Ing, after it began...
Phazon seems to consistently provide regeneration to it's users, like pretty much everyone in Corruption, DS, and even the Omega Pirate earlier in the same game (Although his is Low-Mid).
In one of the guides for the game, Metroid Prime is also stated to be able to regenerate without the need...
Yeah I can agree with intangibility here.
I'm not really sold on the regen or Leviathan durability scaling, although the latter doesn't really matter for Samus, it mostly just impacts the Tallon Metroids (Who would still just scale from Samus tbh).
The purpose of this thread is to reinstate a low 4-C feat, primarily for some of the top-tiers in Metroid Prime 2: Echoes. It's important to mention the context, but I think Armorchompy's original downgrade thread does an excellent job of that, even if I disagree with his conclusions.
I agreed...
Don't disagree with any of this tbh, just a few minor details below.
Other P&A
Metroid Prime:
REMOVALS
Regeneration (Low-High). The artbook isn't saying she can only regenerate with the Phazon suit, just that she used it to become Dark Samus. Plus the Phazon Suit hasn't shown regeneration in...
I don't disagree with the comparison, but by the Mutated Emperor Ing phase, the Light of Aether has noticeably become significantly smaller. It seems to have recovered at the end.
Before Emperor Ing
First Phase
Mutated Emperor Ing
After Emperor Ing
Though it's a bit more complicated. The tech...
Yeah that's why I was abit taken aback, my bad if it was just directed at him.
And yeah, I could see there is speculation in with his points, but there are some elements I agree on (but he needs to bring the scans!).
Will do.
My bad if I misread that.
Not that I'm aware of; I was calling it game mechanics because the collapse should have started after Samus left, not while she was there. (Emperor Ing also absorbed the energy with the module and the world didn't begin collapsing, so the countdown seems...
I'm not sure if there's history here, but I think @Armorchompy, @JJSliderman, and @Chariot190 maybe take a break for a second before we continue and refresh?
I haven't made anything up, so chill out there. If I have, tell me and I'll correct myself.
The Ing have historically upgraded what they absorb (Look at the various Guardians), seems very speculative that this would be the only circumstance out of 7 to not be the case and instead use a low...
I understand, however, it isn't a case of being empowered, but absorption. Furthermore, every time these characters (The Ing) have absorbed something, they also upgrade it so it seems pretty safe here to say that it's at the very least consistent.
Got asked to respond so...
I agree with the first point, so I'm not going to argue much other than the explosion would still be Low 4-C (Light of Aether =/= mass of Aether, not sure why it's being treated as such here) and Dark Samus' survival wasn't because she avoided the explosion by...
Yeah, that makes sense. I would be a bit iffy on applying the rage power on the low 4-C feat since it could be that Dark Samus was already using it to survive the Dark Aether explosion
Bump, I'm just waiting for confirmation we can go ahead with the AP calcs or we start working on the speed feats in the meantime
Or any other revisions you want to talk about?
That's pretty much the exact same as it was before the revisions, except for Patricia, but now she just scales to Mami...
Alright, made a sandbox. Guess I'll work on Mami next as she's the one most affected by the changes.
I understand that, I just figured in the mean time we could try seeing what results would come up from calcing the LS feats and hypothetically scaling characters to save time.
I'll drop my two...
Alright added references to Itzli in the blog, would that be an appropriate amount? (Keep note that the list of references pops up at the bottom of the blog)
Now that we have the scaling for the revised AP feats done, should we focus on getting the LS feats calced?
Very nice
Got any good example for how the pages should look like? Would be easier for me to help if I got a good idea on how the pages should be formatted / appear.
It should be mentioned getting scans for some of the profiles are difficult, for example, my current draft for an updated Itzli...
From what I understand, these are the scaling changes:
Characters who scale from Mami Tomoe (4.5 on the scale), change to 7-B (39.1 megatons). This includes:
Homura Akemi's Weapons
Witch Kyoko Sakura
Witch Nagisa
Moksha Wraith
Pre-Training Tamura Akemi
Elisa Celjska
Lapin
Restricted Tart...
Well we can still make profiles for them, they just aren't part of the main timeline.
From how I understand, Null Magical Girl takes place in a universe without Walpurgisnacht given the that the only disaster of note is Covid and the Tohoku earthquake, so it's pretty clear that it's not in the...
Well we know exemptions exist in PMMM, such as Pernelle's forcefields being 6-B or Minou's 6-B dream barrier. Given Tsukuyo's laser uses the moon as a conduit, it was originally decided we couldn't really scale it without more context.
Unless something changed with the wiki's standards, lasers...
Another Rel / LS feat from Magia Record? Hmmm, Magia Record might be getting some pretty big changes then.
Paola seems to be an exception, considering she's pretty hyped up as a unique witch.
Regarding Null Magical Girl, it's probably not canon to the main timeline (it's like the Jorge Joestar of the PMMM franchise) but does affect the overall cosmology. I would not be surprised if there is a tier 1 feat in there given the insanity involved.
Would love to make a profile for Homo...
Well the lore indicates they're really different from both the SR388 and Tallon Metroids, and they have some very interesting abilities, such as popping out of space-time and not having a weakness to cold in later stages.
It's a sort of subspecies from the Tallon Metroid that became significantly mutated from Phazon.
The life cycle is Miniroids > Phazon Metroids > (Hopping Metroids > Phazon Hoppers) or Metroid Hatcher
https://metroid.fandom.com/wiki/Phazon_Metroid